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Lecks
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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 09:01
i was just browsing through a .exe file created in dbc, to see if my code was in there, when i came across this amongst all the undecipherable crap.
Quote: "
Dark Basic...What the smegging smeg have you smegging done!...Badges...BADGES!...We don't need no stinking Badges!...I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed...We are the knights who say....NI! NI! NOO!..They are your best, last and only line of defence against the worst skum of the universe....Seeth, seeth, seeth. If he seeths anymore he'll turn into a seeth...Thick Jack clot, sits in the stocks and gets pelted with rancid tomatoes....In the wastes of Asteroth, the goblin hoards prepared for battle....You must answer these questions three
"


makes you wonder
sorry if this has been posted before
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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 10:33
Try typing the following commands in DB:

LeeBamber
MalcomBamber
ChristopherBamber



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Lecks
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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 11:29
hehe yea i saw that somewhere. random name generators or something .

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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 11:37
Yep, it's been posted before.

They're hidden commands. Since DB is an interpreting language, everything in the DB engine goes into your game exe, even the hidden commands you never used.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 17:38
what do they do?

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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 19:14
I think there just there for fun. But some can be vey useful like
ROTATE IMAGE image #,degree and
3DS2X (my personal favorite as it changes .3ds to .x)

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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 20:35
i dont think the lines in that quote are hidden commands.. i think theyre just stupid monty python stuff that they threw in the .exe for some reason

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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 23:26
The hidden commands are, as Exeat said:
LeeBamber
MalcomBamber
ChristopherBamber

These commands just generate the nonsense quotes.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2003 23:56
Quote: "3DS2X (my personal favorite as it changes .3ds to .x)
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Really? What is Syntax?

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My favorite is STATISTIC(1) which returns an int describing how many polygons are on the screen at a given moment.

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that last one is a new one to me... MUST TRY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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3ds2x syntax:

3ds2x filename.3ds,filename.x

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2003 09:06
save image in dbp is like a hub of saves

u can save thre kinds of images back and forwards with that ditty.

I have a snippet on my site using that feature for batching

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Posted: 4th Aug 2003 00:20 Edited at: 4th Aug 2003 00:27
I never knew about rotate image? Why is it secret when it is so useful?

EDIT

Rotate image just rotates in 90 degree steps. Thats annoying.

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Are there many more secret commands? It would be interesting to know them.

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Iv'e yet to come accross one in DBP, is there any out there?

If i created a popular program i'd do exactly the same thing

(You know if you open some .exe files in word, and they have that line "This program cannot be run in DOS mode", iv'e seen a couple with weired statements in their too, even Microsoft games )

A great site for this sort of stuff is http://www.eeggs.com (I think they have a small DB section too )

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all these were found in the v110 DB.exe.

STOP

no params. who knows..?


==

an operator that doesn't compile but is in the command list. maybe it's what the language uses when variables are compared like in IFs (in C++ = and == are 2 different things).


BOB

take any SPRITE command, replace the word SPRITE with the word BOB and it does the same thing. BOB comes from Blitter OBject from AMOS i guess.


ROTATE IMAGE img,deg(only 0, 90, 180, 270, 360)

umm rotates an image.


PRINTC [stuff]

same as print but doesn't go to the next line. same as PRINT [stuff]; (semicolon at end of line)


@

another odd operator. i think it has something to do with arrays because this is grouped with the array commands in the EXE. and there are 2 things -- @= and @[, @= probably assigns a value to an array elemant and @[ probably gets an array value. i know this because DB uses [ whenever a command is a function (returns a value).


SCALE LISTENER scale#

this is a normal command in DBP, quite useful, and for some reason not documented. this artificially scales the distances between the listener and the 3dsounds. this is so if your sound is getting quiet way too close (or way too far away) you can scale it until the falloff is right.


SAY speech$

obviously something to do with speech synthesis because using it on a system without the MS speech synthesis engine (like mine) gives an error saying something like "speech engine not installed". i don't know if it actually does work.


SAY TO SOUND speech$, sound number

duh


SAY TO FILE speech$, filename$

again, duh


SPEECH EXIST()

maybe it returns a 1 if the system is capable of speech synthesis. i don't know.


SET MUSIC VOLUME music number, volume

another command that's in DBP but not documented in DB1. it only works with MOD and MP3 music tho.


SET MUSIC SPEED music nubmer, speed

again in DBP and undoumented in DB1. doesn't do anything, but it does set the volume of MODs for some reason.


GET MUSIC VOLUME(music number)
GET MUSIC SPEED(music number)

guess


OBJECT COLLISION RADIUS(object number)

kinda useful i guess. tells you how big the radius of the object's collision sphere is.


OBJECT COLLISION CENTER X(object number)
OBJECT COLLISION CENTER Y(object number)
OBJECT COLLISION CENTER Z(object number)

don't know what you'd use them for but they're self-explanatory.


STATISTIC(stat)

just about everyone knows that statistic(1) returns the number of polys on screen. other than that, it does nothing (in DBP statistic(2) returns a 1 if stencil buffer is available i think).


3DS2X infile$, outfile$

converts a 3ds to an X. so that's how they made the DBConv.exe...


WRITE BYTE TO FILE filename$,offset,value

kinda like random file access. writes a byte to a file at the given byte offset.


SKIP BYTES file number, number of bytes to skip

another in DBP, undocumented in DB1. you can skip a bunch of bytes when reading (or writing maybe?) so that you don't have to read a bunch of junk bytes to skip over some stuff. mildly useful.


READ BYTE FROM FILE(filename$, offset)

returns a byte from the file. more random file access.


LOCK CLI
UNLOCK CLI
LOCK EDITOR
UNLOCK EDITOR


god only knows! or maybe lee only knows..


LEEBAMBER
MALCOLMBAMBER
CHRISTOPHERBAMBER


random monty python sayings!

i'm looking at yooooou!
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Posted: 5th Aug 2003 05:46
lol, i loved monty python and the holy grail

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i have ms speevh and it still doesn't work

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That speech synthesis stuff got me really excited, then i tried it and it didnt work lol

Quote: "
god only knows! or maybe lee only knows..
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I thought Lee was God?

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Posted: 6th Aug 2003 10:38
Lock Cli and the others will stop the program from reverting to the CLI when it's closed or so my memory tells me.

Oh, and there are no secret commands in DBP - Lee said and I quote, "they were done away with".

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Hamish McHaggis
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Posted: 6th Aug 2003 15:41
I guess they were secret cos they were half completed and not "proffesional" enough to document, but they thought they'd add the cos it'd be a waste. ie. The music ones only work with specific sound files and the rotate image only rotates at 90 degree steps, and the say command probably doesn't work much at all.

Or they were just poiNless (print = print; , bob = sprint )

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Yeah Shockforge...Lee or God...here they are the same...thats the church bell time to goto DarkBasic Church and Worship all the Patches and curse the Anti-DarkBasic...*cough*Blitz*cough*...ok ,time to wake up and make sense...

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you just gave me a great idea for a new game

ohwell, maybe later, im too busy right now. i'll write it in my to-do list

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I noticed those Holy Grail quotes....We are the knights who say.....NI!
Then King Arthur and his knights must find a shrubbery for the Knights who say ni. A nice one mind, and not too expensive.

If your not from the UK you probably wont understand these ramblings of insanity.

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please dont remind me of monty python. A kid in my school, all he did was rant random monty python quotes, even insulting me once. Though, I think its funny, I also think of it as annoying

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Mwahahaaaa! BUT I'M NOT DEAD YET!!! *Bonk!*

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Quote: "If your not from the UK you probably wont understand these ramblings of insanity"


Monty Python is well-known just about everywhere in the world now, though it's not mainstream humor here in the US... but it's better than mainstream!

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Quote: "I would like a spam sandwich without spam...

Bleh!

What do you mean bleh?! I don't like spam!"


And i'm from the U.S....(okay so that's no a direct quote but it's close enough)

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everyone knows monty python in aus. i hate it though. i cant stand more than 10 minutes of any of their movies.

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Hate to dissappoint you guys but those arnt all monty python

What the smegging smeg have you smegging done! - almost certainly red dwarf

Badges...BADGES!...We don't need no stinking Badges! - not sure
I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed - hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
We are the knights who say....NI! NI! NOO!.. - Monty python
They are your best, last and only line of defence against the worst skum of the universe - MiB (pretty obviously)
Seeth, seeth, seeth. If he seeths anymore he'll turn into a seeth - not sure but sounds suspiciously like a carry on film, probably carry on caesar
Thick Jack clot, sits in the stocks and gets pelted with rancid tomatoes - Blackadder (third series I think, the one with the actors in it)
In the wastes of Asteroth, the goblin hoards prepared for battle.... - dont actually know that one, sounds like a bad tolkien take off.
You must answer these questions three - monty python

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Quote: "its just a flesh wound !"

Love that one. "Come back here, I'll bite you to death"

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Quote: "In the wastes of Asteroth, the goblin hoards prepared for battle"

That's from WarCraft 2, which, while it was a great game, had a lot of silly Tolkien rip-offs.

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hitch hikers guide to the galaxy: pure class
red drawf: very class

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no, its not from warcraft 2 i dont think. Becaus eit warcraft 2 it's Azeroth and there were no goblins. Just orcs,humans. and a few minor ones but there were no goblins.

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well, looking through google, all i found was a french forum site, where it looks like theyve found the same thing as above.

http://forum.games-creators.org/viewtopic_387.htm

i cant be bothered to use altavista, it sort of makes sense anyway

maybe its a random quote that Lee made himself?

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ok i got bored and translated it lol, and yeah its just about a guy finding the weired quotes.

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Hehe, perhaps it's not from WC2 then, but there were goblins in that game. They were on the orc side. They built the zeppelins and the demo squads, just as the humans had dwarves that did the same.

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(to Lecks)

The quotes aren't all from Monty Python. There's some Red Dwarf, some Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy, etc.

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i realised that when i read the last 5 posts

i cant stand any of those stupid english comedys. i dont know what the comedy styles called, but like monty python and red dwarv. theyre so enthusiastically stupid it gives me a headache

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The castle uhhhhhhhhhhhh

im from the us...i love monty python and so do all my friends!

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Quote: "
i cant stand any of those stupid english comedys. i dont know what the comedy styles called, but like monty python and red dwarv. theyre so enthusiastically stupid it gives me a headache
"


there ace! i love em! i have Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy and all the Red Dwarf's on tape, come to think of it i might watch one now

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the hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy film was crap; the book and the radio series are better.

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Somebody was insulted thru a Monty Python quote?! I hope he did not "fart in your general direction".

I still want to be a lumberjack. And, yes, I am OK.

Monty Python humor is based on total absurdism. Probably the best example was the re-enactment of the Battle of Pearl Harbor, which was just a few old ladies beating the cud out of each other in a muddy field. Stupid, pointless, and largely ill-willed, it is humor cooked down into pure heroin. Is it junk? You bet!

Monty Python is a lot like heroin -- it's ugly, it makes you look like shit, it's almost painful, but the true addict will stuff his head into a million back alleys to get his fix.

And those who are not addicted simply sneer, and pray the junk won't touch them.

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Funny how such a silly topic brings about as much debate as something like the Middle East situation.

Many people don't appreciate Monty Python humor, which is understandable. Like dadaism, it's certainly not for everybody. However, it shouldn't be dismissed as invalid random trash. It's often a twisted form of satire; when one looks past the initial absurdity and overcomes inclination to turn away, one may find some real truth through the mist. Perhaps this wouldn't be the best example to discuss, but consider Life of Brian. Sure, it had its absurd and meaningless moments, but it can make you (if you're open to it) reconsider certain religious doctrines often commonly accepted as unalienable truths, or at least can bring a different viewpoint to the issue.

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Monty Python is an art.

We're all open for opinions here, but just because you don't like it it doesnt mean that its junk.

Its like Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. It has hidden meanings underneath it all. If you can't understand that, then dont blame us

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who's blaming anyone?

british humor in general has always been quite a bit cheesy...
problem is this: lacking a keen sense of humor, certain people can really enjoy garbage like monty python

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I think it's more a matter of having a diverse rather than limited sense of humor.

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Badges...BADGES!...We don't need no stinking Badges! - Blazing Saddles

How can you criticize the British sense of humour when you have the king of all fart jokes in a movie?

... I still can't help laughing at it when I see it

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