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3 Dimensional Chat / 3D Compo: Stone Mason's Apprentice

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mike5424
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Damn, I was planning a simple grave XD Well, Good luck everyone! Doubt i'll enter this one, I just can't be asked

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@Mike5424: I felt the same way with the quality of this thread, I just thought I might aswell enter, as anything can happen.


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Posted: 7th May 2010 23:41 Edited at: 7th May 2010 23:43
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Mm.. 1rst Test...

not god.. ned make again..



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Started to work on the statue texture...harder then expected. Trying for a realistic look, so far is alright in my book. Still needs more detail.



Three texture layers altogether atm, each with it's own diffuse/bump/alpha/spec map.

Crits welcome.


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Posted: 8th May 2010 08:06 Edited at: 8th May 2010 08:11
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nice texture Josh .. now you need add eyes (for make them power full, and call the mana spirit)



ad this is my advance.. i still in modeling step..




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[quote]And @Henry: Looks great! Curious how detailed the texture will be.quote]

this should give you an idea mate,just started painting the column texture.



cheers henry

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Posted: 8th May 2010 20:32 Edited at: 9th May 2010 18:22
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i was unpleased with my first post, so heres my entry, its adapted from my anatomy hand sculpt

all angles -



final render -



link to larger image: http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6643/hand1u.jpg

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heres my final entry image: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9835/hand4v.jpg

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Posted: 8th May 2010 20:41
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this compo is very interesting indeed, awesome entries from everyone

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glad I'm not having to judge this..

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Posted: 8th May 2010 23:05 Edited at: 8th May 2010 23:13
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nice post..
test screen and materials...





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Ok, here's a start on mine although there is still a lot left to do. It's going to be a fountain, tomorrow I'll start work on the central statuary then move on to texturing the stonework components.




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Posted: 9th May 2010 18:53 Edited at: 10th May 2010 18:13
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Erm... quick question.

I have skimmed this a bit but I wanted to know if you can use older work which dont have the raw mod data?

If I didnt have all the data for the pic could I still enter it? Just asking as I noticed some ppl posted there raw mesh too.
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The short answer is no you cannot use old models that were made before the comp was started.

As far as I know the intent for these mini 3D compos is to have the entrants build their models during the competition, not search their personal archives to resurrect old models (unfinished or not).

Using an old model or scene as inspiration to make a new model is fine I'm sure.

I hope this clears things up.

Cheers!

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Thanks Dave....I understand m8
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Posted: 9th May 2010 19:38 Edited at: 9th May 2010 19:38
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oh right, i would just like to say in case anyone comments that my hand entry was started after this comp started and the above model isn't identical to the one in my other thread and was adapted purposfully for this

zbrush 3D model thread:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=166698&b=3
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Here's some more progress. Most of the basin texturing is done and I've started the statuary. One more good push and I might finish it off.




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lookin good ortu i like your fountain idea.

[url]http://myportfolio.x10hosting.com/[url]
visit my site.(still in progress)
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Mortal Kombat on a fountain :3

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Posted: 10th May 2010 19:01 Edited at: 10th May 2010 19:07
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hi iceman.. this is a head made in creaturecreator???
i'm curious.. this is a good resource of fast models..

(this screen shot is take from google image, a pirate webpage if you see the register name green /hacker)



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Posted: 10th May 2010 19:07 Edited at: 10th May 2010 19:10
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Hi Neodelito. I used a base model and then built around it. I take it we were allowed to use stock in this compo?

If not, its np, as I can very quickly build it again from scratch. It wont make any diff to the final model or pic.

EDIT: thanks for your pic neo... I love who its reg to...so does that mean you pirate it from them? LOL

Double Edit: Yes ofc it is from "a site" ;_)
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tanks for your response iceman.. i wait to see your concept and works..



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Posted: 10th May 2010 19:21 Edited at: 11th May 2010 00:54
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Quote: "i wait to see your concept and works"


LOL... you will be waiting a long time then m8.
If you read I said "If not, its np, as I can very quickly build it again from scratch. It wont make any diff to the final model or pic."

Why should I change it just to suit you? No offence, but what would be the point? As far as I am aware this compo is about designing a scene /object and making it look like rock.
The creature I made, regardless if its used as its base a set of pre-rendered objects or not, was exactly the look I was after.

David said "As far as I know the intent for these mini 3D compos is to have the entrants build their models during the competition".
He did not say that it was against the rules to use pre-rendered objects to build a finished work. Besides, if I re-did it again, the outcome would be the same as I am not changing the model look for anyone...its what I envisioned.
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Posted: 10th May 2010 19:41 Edited at: 11th May 2010 00:51
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Actually, forget it.
I am not gonna be blamed for mucking up this thread for people. I will withdraw my image and when the next compo comes up I will enter that one and do everything from scratch.
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iceman he only asked you if the model was from creature creator !
we have had a lot of people claiming others models as there own in the last few weeks.

Quote: "Double Edit: Yes ofc it is from "a site" ;_) "


first page of google images take a look at the users name



cheers henry

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Sorry iceman, is not my intention blamed you..
And i don't use creature creator.
don't be angry ice.. (You can find many screenshot of creature creator in the web and the famous green - hacker LoL..)

Ok.. this is my entry..
First Render..


Second Render add Trees


Final compo.


i hope you like..



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nice one there, alot of hot entries, good luck mods choosing one, it got to be hard

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Posted: 10th May 2010 23:36 Edited at: 10th May 2010 23:36
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well, might as well put up my entry, seeing as I'm as done with it as I can be. this will count as my entry



good luck to all the entrants, this is definitely going to be interesting to see who comes out on top.

regards
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@ Henry Ham:
Didnt know ppl had been claiming others works as there own...bad that.
And I was only jk when I said "yes ofc its from a site" was only ribbing him. ;_)

@ Neodelito: Np, I am sure u didnt... was a bad day for me so I over-reacted a bit...sorry.

Oh and nice pic Neo...
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Neodelito@

thats a very dramatic entry, well done

i didn't notice until just now that this has a long time left, wonder who is still to enter...

zbrush 3D model thread:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=166698&b=3
pixologic thread:http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=86900
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I really wish i could enter this one,, i might find time to start, but life just got really busy. To bad, would have been fun. And i like all of them but Neos' is so awesome. I like anim8or but this gives me inspiration on the capabilities of it. GJ NEO!!!

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I guess no one got the Rolling stones logo that I did. OHhh well.

I was working on this one but I'm redoing it and going to use a different technique to make the stone.

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Everyone's entries and WIPs look awesome so far! It's also nice to see so many people entering! Still got some time so I am still working on mine. Just a little slower progress now.

Quote: "I guess no one got the Rolling stones logo that I did. OHhh well."
I didn't know if you were going for the Rolling stones or the fact that they rock!

My green thumb grew the tree my Trojan War horse was crafted from. With roses in our pockets we rally round the tombstones. Ashes to ashes, we all fall down.
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lol both work I guess. Just as long as someone got it.
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hi Woolfman, you work in zbrush??.. look realistic, (i don't know use zbrush very well.)
and rolling stones ROCKS!!




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Yeah I love ZBrush. But I haven't used it in months. I've been using Maya 2010 for school and been hating every second of it.

No worries Neo your texture work is amazing and yeah thats the logo.
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Looks very nice woolfman, Centre rocks could be hardened up a bit.

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Thanks Asteric. I'll keep that in mind when I redo it.
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Newest update: tweaked the normal maps and water saturation, some lighting, and finished the central piece.

It's about 90% finished I'd say, with just a small bit of background fleshing to do and perhaps a few minor shifts here and there.

I'm calling it 'The Font of Elements'

I chose a carved tree to represent air as wood is a workable/shape-able material and the trees play a vital role in both the climate and oxygen cycle. Without them we'd have nothing much to breathe. The only other workable material I could think of for it would be blown glass, but I felt that wood fit the scene better.

The earth, fire, and water elemental representatives in the scene are self explainatory I think.

Anyway, here's what I've got so far:




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Ortu looks very nice, definitely my favorite entry so far.


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the stone man needs more definition in his face ortu ^^ otherwise it looks real awesome


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Agreed Quik, that's one of the main things bothering me still. also the crease in his elbow could use a few more loops so it's not so pinched.

I'm thinking about breaking up the limbs into attached pieces which would have been carved separately.

I noticed after posting it that the flagstone texture of the basin beneath the water got stretched after I shrank the central island so I'll be fixing that as well.

Thanks for the comments guys


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i Ortu nice idea, for water you not need texture, render in "Index of refraction"

if you like download an example here..
http://www.anim8or.com/download/preview/class_transparent.an8

Reference: http://www.anim8or.com/download/preview/art_raytracer.html
(need anim8or preview version, from www.anim8or.com , is free)



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the water material is using raytraced transparency with a weak refraction less than the actual index for water I think. Higher IOR with a clearer color is great for small volumes but a deeper, larger volume should have more color and murk. I'll try upping the IOR to that of true water (1.33)

In this scene the reflection outweighs refraction because of the angle of the light source and the viewing angle of the camera. I'm using a diffuse texture because I like the color tones it adds, which is realistically still too deep a blue for this amount of water, but it complements the sky visually.

You did an awesome job on the post effects work on yours Neo. This is shaping up to be a really good compo all around.


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"In this scene the reflection outweighs refraction because of the angle of the light source and the viewing angle of the camera"..Ok, now i see.. i like your concept, thanks.
Other question, in my scenes i use lots (is a important part in all my models) png and transparent textures to simulate fire, smoke, and other special efx, (i don like use a particle engine) in your flames i see a transp. png in a plain object? if you add a emisive material and a light source for each lamp i think they be look mega great



Good compo all around.



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yes they are transp .png and there is a light source at each of them which is why the front of the fountain isn't all shadowed from the sunset in the background. adding emmissive to them is a good idea, i'll look into it. should help them 'pop'


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Ultimate_H: Cool model. I know everyone hates to hear this and often argue against it when people point it out... BUT your picture is dark for me. Enough that I had to tilt my* screen to take a look at your detail. Just throwing that out there.

*It might be bright for other people, so please don't flame me guys. Just pointing out that some people will have troubles, couldn't hurt to bring the exposure up a bit.
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The crazy@: , I forget that I usually have my monitor angled so it's about twice as bright as normal. Thanks for pointing that out. is this any better?



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Yeah, definitely I can see the form of it much better. I notice some cool detail on those wings now. Did you hand paint that?
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