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Balid
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Frank C,

I just downloaded the version from the web site and it's not beta. Could you have a cache of the old link?


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Balid,

I been playing around with WinDbg (From windows 7 SDK) and I have tried to find out what's wrong with Indigo. Would these be relevant information about the problem?




And here is some more info in the screen shot attached.

And I think I might be able to generate a crash dump file too. So when I figure out how to do that I'll post it here.

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Balid,
I've just installed V1.20 on W7 64-bit PC. Works fine for me right from the box (so to speak). I did notice one or two things though.

Pressing F4 compiles AND runs when I assume it should just compile.

The second thing is that the status bar at the bottom (where the line numbers are shown) is half covered up by the project window.

Best regards and your work is much appreciated.
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Balid,
I have the same setup as amanalone and F4 compiles + executes on every project I have tried.

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amanalone & BandP College Man,

Thank you for the kind words. I will resolve the F4 compile and run issue in v1.2.1.

amanalone,

Could you post a screenshot of your second issue?


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I have the same problem, attached image.

Balid I have noticed that using the scrollbar on large files is slow. Only until I scroll all the way to the bottom of the source file does it seem nice and fast. Do you perform some sort of caching?


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tiresius,

Thanks for the screen shot. It was less pronounced for me. Then tried on other computer and could really see it.

This and a few other changes are available in v1.2.1 beta 1.

You can get latest download on the Indigo Site.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 00:12 Edited at: 4th Jun 2011 00:15
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I installed the beta, and immediately got exceptions coming from failed object casts.

Error text:"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately.

Unable to cast object of type 'Dummy Content' to type 'frmDocument'."

If I reboot my computer I am able to get it to open successfully, but then when I add/remove any files from a project it fails again with the same or similar error message.

With these errors I am unable to continue using Indigo.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that these errors also occur using the latest stable version as well.


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I want to say that Indigo is great. I found a bug and did not know where to send it. When you double click the plugins you get a window with all the functions in the plugin. I was just clicking away and found that when I double click the Enhancements plugin then Indigo crashes. I am not sure if it is the number of functions in the plugin but wanted to post the issue.

Also is there any work done on improving the debugger?

Thank you for this great IDE.
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Dar13,

I've had that error happen to me a couple of times as well, but only when opening a second Indigo session. And couldn't get it happen while in debug.

I just Windows 7 64 bit a couple of weeks ago and started to develop Indigo on it using VS 2010. I haven't had the error yet, but also haven't really tried.

In my latest testing, Indigo runs the same on XP, Vista, and 7. I have a few issues to work out before posting a public beta.


fpprog12,

Thank you. I will look into the Plug-Ins issue. Debugger improvements are on the list, after code beautifier. I've been holding off on making big changes until I got Win7 64 bit and VS 2010 up and running. Now that that is mostly done, you should start to see regular updates again.

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I love this IDE - especially how stable it is when compared to either default IDE.

One thing - I had the .net framework, v4.0 installed, but I also needed to install v2.0 before I could get it to run. Do you think you could say somewhere "needs .net framework 2.0 to run"? xD

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also... it would be handy if your editor could open other kinds of plaintext files. I have a couple .xml .ini files, and it would be convenient to simply tab back and forth between the code and these text files.

(I tried opening a .xml document and indigo crashed - this is beta 1.2.1)


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Indigo v1.2.1 beta 2 has been uploaded. Indigo is now being developed on Win 7 64 bit, VS 2010.

Change log (besides Win 7 and VS 2010):
> Plugin Parser - Corrected defect that would crash Indigo if dll was not able to be parsed.

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Neuro Fuzzy,

Thank you for your support. I will look into adding a way to view non-DBPro project files in Indigo.

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one very annoying thing I've found:

I have a function called "ChunkData_something()"
and I also have an array called "chunkdata"

if I have autocomplete on, and I want to access, say, the fifth element of chunkdata, I start to type in:

chunkdata

but when I hit the parentheses, it thinks I want to enter the function, so typing:

chunkdata(

results in:

ChunkData_something(


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Neuro Fuzzy,

Thank you for the report. I can probably look into that tonight.
[edit]I tried debugging this but could not duplicate what you described. Could you provide more detail or post a simple example? Thank you.[/edit]

Also, I have added a very basic way of viewing non-DBPro project files. I need to do some more testing on my side but so far it does not seem to break any thing else.

As well as a very basic "beautification" routine has been added. Need to round it out a little more before releasing a public beta. It should help with visually catching unbalanced IF statements. It will also feed into a pre-compiling debugger (ie before code is sent to the compiler Indigo can check for irregular indention's (provided 'beautification' is turned on).

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I think the issue -might- be related to parsing comments. There was one problem I had, where I had some code like this:

the compiler is fine with that, (though it probably shouldn't be ) but the IDE has problems with highlighting and intellisensing functions after it. No functions declared after that point are highlighted or code completed until a seemingly random point in code later on (probably not coincidentally, in my code, it was right after a big remstart/remend comment block)

Though what I wrote isn't good, and the above problem is unrelated to the code completion thing, is there a chance the intellisense may parses code-like syntax in the comments? I have a bunch of XML, DBPro and Pseudocode commented out, so there's plenty of bad things that could happen xD


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Hey team,

I've had the following errors in trialing Indigo for the first time on Windows 7 64 bit.







Thing is, I think the errors are a once off after I've created, saved and compiled a dummy project. Although I'm still getting the compiler "LoadDBA" error on all of my existing projects.

And below, comparing two dbpro files, one created with Indigo, the other with the default Synergy editor.





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Burning Feet Man,

Please try the latest v1.2.1 beta. It was developed and compiled on Win 7 64 bit. I see from the error messages that you are using an older version.

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I tried the beta originally, and thought that may have been the cause of the instability issues, but as you can see the same problems are happening with both the beta and the previous stable release.

I'm wondering if it's due to my install of DBpro not being in the default location?

If you like, I'm happy to show you these problems over a remote session.

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Burning Feet Man,
Quote: "but as you can see the same problems are happening with both
the beta and the previous stable release"
Sorry, but I don't see the problem on the latest v1.2.1 beta.

I don't think having DBPro installed in a different location is causing the issue.

Please send my an email and I can help up you off-line.

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Hi Balid, do you have plans for speed improvements in the next beta? On large files (greater than 1000 lines) the paging (or dragging scrollbar down) of the code window is pretty slow now. I don't remember it being this slow.


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Hi Balid. Nice work, this may become my favorite IDE.
Could you add an way to conditionally include files? Something like:

That would allow us to write libraries of functions which are depentant on other source files without having issues of including a particular file twice.
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Hi all,

I am using v1.2.0 in Win XP. The "compile only" command compiles and runs the program. Also hitting the escape key does not end the program while running.

I also noticed that when I tried running v1.2.1, Indigo tells me I need framework net 4.0 installed, but it is already installed and updated.

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tiresius,
Thank you for you observation. Though v1.2.1 seems to be the fastest for me. Do you have logging turned off?


revenant chaos,
Thank you for your suggestion. I can certainly look into that. Though anything I put into do will not work with the other IDE's.


pdq,
Thank you for the update. The "compile only" defect has been corrected in v1.2.1. I will need to check how I have Indigo set up. I thought I had it so it could use earlier versions and not just 4.0. It's also interesting that Indigo is not finding the installed framework.


All,
I was hoping to release the next beta containing a basic "Beautification" routine but found some nasty defects in it last night. Hopefully I can get them resolved for next week.

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v1.2.1 b3 has been uploaded.

Finally found what was causing the problems with "Beautification" (really need to find a better name). Also got the "Default" font color change to work as well.

Full this v1.2.1 changes:
+ Misc - Indigo is now being developed on Win 7 64 bit.
+ Beautification - Basic code indention correction was added.
+ Help - Added option to have Help update only with F1 or based on Caret position.
> Compiling - Corrected defect where using compile only would also run the executable.
> Plugin Parser - Corrected defect that would crash Indigo if dll was not able to be parsed.
> Syntax Highlighting - Corrected issue with not being able to change the 'Default' font color.
> Misc - Corrected defect with docking window overlaping status strip.

You can get latest download on the Indigo Site.

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Hi Balid-
New version looks nice, haven't played with it too much yet but hopefully soon. I turned logging off, that sped up the loading part (which I felt was okay). But scrolling on a newly opened file is still slow for me.

Here's what I do:
1. Start Indigo it autoloads last project
2. Select source file
3. Click down on scrollbar and drag it down to the bottom
4. Notice that display is sluggish and takes a while to skip its way down
5. After it reaches the bottom, slide scrollbar up and down, and it is nice and zippy now


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I'm trying to use Indigo (1.2.0) and it crashes immediately with the following error:



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aerostudios,

Have you tried running the 1.2.0 version "as Admin"?

I would suggest trying the latest beta of v1.2.1. It was developed on Win 7 64 bit and Vista 32 bit and doesn't need to be ran as admin. And has been tweaked in other ways that should resolve the issue with the ScintillaNet control.

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@Balid

"As admin" isn't an issue with Windows XP/SP3. I have administrator rights on this PC. I'm not running on Vista or Windows 7.

I've ran both 1.2.0 and the beta version with the same result under Windows XP/SP3.

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Great news Balid,

I recently upgraded my entire rig last week, and now run Windows 7 home Premium 64bit, with the correct version of .NET 4 installed.

I can confirm that I've isolated one bug in teh latest Indigo 1.2.1;

In a new DBA project, upon including existing DBA files in that project; when navigating for particular files, if I click one DBA file for selection, and then change my selection to another, I get a JIT error.

But I noted this error doesn't happen if I select one DBA file to include, without the selection.

I'll continue to rebuild one of my main projects using Indigo, cause it looks absolutely promising. I'll document the bugs that I can isolate.


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Feature Request - Code snippets - Prompted Entries;
I use the follow code to tie CSV data into arrays.



My current work flow is after I insert the snippet, is to then select the two lines and do a find/replace all on the word "Example".

If I have 10 of these to insert, as you can see I have to change the word "Example" to my actual array many times. I think a very handy feature to have in code snippets would be "prompted entries", where upon inserting my snippet into my DBA file, a second window pops up which allows me to type in the correct array name.

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Great editor, but I can't use it because I get an error when I have a project open and try to open another .dba file using file>open. I'm running v1.2.1 beta3. Here are the details:


If you can fix that I'd love to use it, but until then, it's unfortunately impossible for me to use .


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Burning Feet Man & Gil Galvanti,

I think both of the issues you reported has being caused by the same thing. Which hopefully is corrected now.


Burning Feet Man,

I have an idea on how to implement your suggestion and it's on the list for v1.3.0.


All,

I did discover that opening only one non-include file at a time will work correctly. I will correct this in v1.3.0 as well.

v1.2.1 has been uploaded and the work on v1.3.0 has begone.


You can get latest download on the Indigo Site.

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Tried the v1.2.1 and unfortunately I still get the error when trying to open another .dba file . Here's the error details:



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Gil Galvanti,

It looks like you may still be running the beta version according to the JIT.

I just downloaded the latest 'Indigo_v121_Installer.exe' to make sure I packed up the right version and it ran fine when opening a file outside of a project (File->Open).

The build date/time of the latest exe is 2011-07-10 11:25 AM. Could you double check the build date of the exe you are using?

Thank you and all the best,



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Hmmm...the installer that I get when I click the Indigo Version 1.2.1 download link on your website is "Indigo_v121_Beta_Installer.exe" and it was last modified on 7/3/2011 at 7:37AM. Are you sure the correct exe is up there?


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Gil,

Yes. You may have a cache issue. You should be able to remove 'Beta_' from the URL to get the latest download. I double checked and the site is updated.

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Aha, yeah, must've been a cache issue, got it working now . No error with opening the .dba files in it yet, great job! Keep up the good work!


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I did notice that the download page still says beta. I will fix that later tonight.

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aerostudios,

i dusted off my old desktop with XP sp3 on it. Installed Indigo. Promptly got the error message about needing .Net 4 Framework. Installed the .Net 4 Framework. Ran Indigo and ... it stopped. I should have the issue resolved by the time I release the first beta of v1.3.0.

Thank you for the extra details. I guess I will leave my old desktop set up for testing.


[edit]Could you check to make sure that your system calendar is up to date? That was the issue with my old desktop. When I got it up and running again, I did set the date or time. Once I did, Indigo worked fine.[/edit]


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I have a feature request for a future version - intellisense for types/types with arrays. For example, on the code:



typing "person( 1 )." and hitting ctrl+space would bring up a list with name, id, and age.

Also, there is a minor bug (that was in Codesurge too, so it may be difficult to solve) when you compile a file that has files included using #include, it doesn't seem to count those lines in the number of lines that are being compiled. Just a minor bug that is purely aesthetic but it would be nice to see fixed .

And one more feature request if it's possible is to display compile-time error messages in the "Additional Information" box in the compile tab. At the moment, it seems to display, "Compile was successful", even if it was not.

Keep up the good work, I've switched to using this as my IDE now instead of Codesurge, looking forward to more .


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Quote: "Keep up the good work, I've switched to using this as my IDE now instead of Codesurge, looking forward to more ."

Glad to have you.

1. Try changing the type from person to persons and see what happens (I -think you'll like it )
2. I might have an idea on how to compare the lines between what Indigo sends to the compiler and what the compiler generates.
3. It should already be doing that. <goes and checks> Interesting. I will look into why that's happening. Thank you for pointing that out.[edit]Fixed. It was an unexpected feature added in v1.2.1 beta 2. [/edit]


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Quote: "1. Try changing the type from person to persons and see what happens (I -think you'll like it )"

Oh, nice, it seems to work with that (I didn't actually try my own example), but not in my code (which is too large and complicated to pinpoint why, but maybe if you define the type in a subroutine and try to call it in a function it won't work properly? Hmmm...well it's not a big deal anyways .

Also, I found a pretty major bug with opening additional files...if you open more than one additional .dba file (so you have 3+ tabs open), then you can only click on the first two tabs.

Oh, and an additional feature request that I didn't see implemented yet - bookmarking code. In Codesurge you could press ctrl+shift+[a number] and it would bookmark that line of code to where if you pressed ctrl+[the number] it would jump to that line, which was very useful.

Two more bugs with .dba files that are opened but not part of the project: search gives an index out of bounds exception, and elements are not listed. Sorry for all the problems, but I use #include to allow for easier and project-independent including of external files, but it seems they have quite a few problems .


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Quote: "Also, I found a pretty major bug with opening additional files...if you open more than one additional .dba file (so you have 3+ tabs open), then you can only click on the first two tabs."
Quote: "Two more bugs with .dba files that are opened but not part of the project: search gives an index out of bounds exception, and elements are not listed."

Many of the issue's opening 'non dbpro file included' files (ie not in the dbpro project file) will be addressed in v1.3.0. Many of the issue's that you've identified, are those that I alluded to in my earlier statement about v1.2.1 being posted. Files that are not called out in the dbpro project file will not be indexed, nor have all of the syntax highlighting of explicitly (not using #include) called out project files.

Quote: "but I use #include to allow for easier and project-independent including of external files"
I strongly suggest moving away from using #include. You lose all of the advantages of having the includes called out in the project file. I use the same .dba file in multiple projects. Mixing project specific and non-project specific files. If it works for you great. When I first switched to dbpro, I used #include in my first project and when I realized that the dbpro project was basically doing the same thing (only cleaner IMO) I stopped (and never turned back).

At this point, I don't think I would start work on modifying Indigo to actively seek out #included files. [to be blunt] a donation would change that. The bigger changes that I made to Indigo where in response to requests that those who donated had asked for. Indigo started as a personal editor and the development of it is still largely to that end. Though I do make it a point to put into Indigo what people have payed for. Like yourself, I am a one person team. I work on projects in my spare time. I'm very proud that others find Indigo useful and prefer it over the other IDE's. But in the end, free apps, truly aren't.

On a side note, how's "Pirates of Port Royale" coming? I haven't seen any updates lately.

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Quote: "I strongly suggest moving away from using #include. You lose all of the advantages of having the includes called out in the project file. I use the same .dba file in multiple projects. Mixing project specific and non-project specific files. If it works for you great. When I first switched to dbpro, I used #include in my first project and when I realized that the dbpro project was basically doing the same thing (only cleaner IMO) I stopped (and never turned back)."

Hmm...I guess the reason I use them is because I develop my code in modules separated into .dba files and it is easier to add or remove them using #include than including them with the project. The thing that annoyed me was having to manually add one file at a time (especially when you're dealing with 20-30 .dba files), so a multiple select feature would be great if you get a chance to add that . I see what you mean about the advantages of including them in the dbpro file, so I think I'll switch to doing that.

Quote: "The bigger changes that I made to Indigo where in response to requests that those who donated had asked for."

Yeah, I see what you mean, I wouldn't spend time working on something that not many will use with no compensation either. I guess I never saw a big advantage to adding .dba files manually rather than just using #include, but you made some good points, so don't spend any time working on that for my sake. Donating for additional features is definitely something I'd consider at some point, but I'd like to use it for a bit longer to see what all I feel like should be requested.

Quote: "On a side note, how's "Pirates of Port Royale" coming? I haven't seen any updates lately."

It's going alright, thanks for asking . That's actually all I've been working the past month or two (and am glad to have found Indigo to make that easier). I've completely rewritten the terrain editor/engine to fix a lot of things that were not working behind-the-scenes and some serious scalability issues (I've made the editing area more than 100x larger than before all with LOD switching so the framerate stays up). At the moment I'm finishing up rewriting the UI module for the World Editor to do the same kind of things (making it more efficient, cleaner, and simpler). I haven't posted any updates on the thread recently because most of my progress, as major as it is technically, has been "under the hood" and so probably uninteresting to most people. After I finish rewriting a few more parts of the World Editor it should be 90% complete and I'll be ready to finish work on the actual game engine. I plan on making another video within a couple of months. Anyways, sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread, that's probably more information than you wanted to know .


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Quote: " The thing that annoyed me was having to manually add one file at a time (especially when you're dealing with 20-30 .dba files), so a multiple select feature would be great if you get a chance to add that "

I don't know why I haven't added multiple file selection when adding includes. I will add that to v1.3.0.
Quote: " but I'd like to use it for a bit longer..."
Completely agree

Quote: "but maybe if you define the type in a subroutine"
Local variables are not recognized by Indigo at the moment. It's on the list, just not at the top.

Quote: "I've completely rewritten the terrain editor/engine"
That sounds familiar.
Quote: "I plan on making another video within a couple of months."
Looking forward to seeing it.
Quote: "Anyways, sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread, that's probably more information than you wanted to know ."
Not hijacking if I asked .

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Hey man looks like you still got this thing going and it looks great Keep up the good work!

[edit] Just installed DBP and this for the first time on the new laptop (win7 64 bit) and all seems to be doing well

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Lost in Thought,
Quote: "Hey man looks like you still got this thing going and it looks great "
Thank you. I would have to agree .

Quote: "[edit] Just installed DBP and this for the first time on the new laptop (win7 64 bit) and all seems to be doing well "
Thank you for the update.

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I'm having trouble adding include files to my project. After I click add and select the file and hit ok to include it, I get this error every few seconds:



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Quote: "but not in my code (which is too large and complicated to pinpoint why, but maybe if you define the type in a subroutine and try to call it in a function it won't work properly?"

Gil, it may be that Indigo is getting confused between an array and a type, because they match. I label all my UDTs T_<Name> to differentiate them and not get myself confused.



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Do you see slow scrolling initially in your source files? Once finally scrolled to the bottom it is nice and zippy. Just wondering if it is only me... Thanks.


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tiresius,

Quote: "Do you see slow scrolling initially in your source files?"
Yes, but I had to use a 4000 line file and be "Johnny on the Spot" with the scrolling to get the effect you mentioned. I seriously doubt that I will be able to do anything with that. I tried several different ways to try and simulate scrolling to the bottom to try to get the Scintilla control to update the syntax highlighting but nothing worked. May I ask why you have scroll so much? Have you tried the "Remember Last Line" option?


Gil Galvanti,

Quote: "After I click add and select the file and hit ok to include it"
The "and hit ok" part is a little confusing. Whenever I add a source file I don't have to click on OK. It may be some system setting differences thou. I will look into it. Can you provide any more information? How about turning on Logging and sending that as well.

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Quote: "The "and hit ok" part is a little confusing. Whenever I add a source file I don't have to click on OK. It may be some system setting differences thou. I will look into it. Can you provide any more information? How about turning on Logging and sending that as well."

Gah, sorry, I meant hit open (or double click the file) to include it. I have logging on high but the logging file seems to not be created. There was a log.txt file in the Indigo directory, but it had log dates from several days ago. I deleted it, closed Indigo, reopened it and set logging to high, reproduced the error, but still no log.txt generation. I tried reinstalling Indigo and was able to reproduce the error again (just open a project file and click add and select and existing .dba). I think it's still the same thing:

Sorry, not sure if there's any more information I can give you at this point. Any ideas why the log file would not be created?


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