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Battoad
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Posted: 28th Aug 2015 19:17
Quote: "UMM where do I find the GG forums?"



This could be it;

https://www.game-guru.com

KeithC
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Posted: 28th Aug 2015 21:58
MrValentine
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Posted: 29th Aug 2015 02:01 Edited at: 29th Aug 2015 02:04
Thank you KeithC, just strange that there is not a single link on the GG website that is easy to find...

EDIT

Just had another look....... OMG LOL all the way over there... should be at the end of the navigation menu... my screen is so huge, I did not think to look all the way over to the right when the navigation menu was all the way over to the left...

I thought the Login white highlight text was my Options icons for Edge and not a page item lol... as it was way over in my peripheral view...

The Next
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Posted: 29th Aug 2015 14:17
The forums can be found on the main GameGuru site using the forums link top right. Or here https://forum.game-guru.com/

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Posted: 29th Aug 2015 18:37
Yeah I found it eventually after nearly breaking my neck turning my head to the right

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MrValentine
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Posted: 30th Aug 2015 05:08
That is just chrome being normal

Clear your cache...

The Tall Man
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Posted: 30th Aug 2015 05:32 Edited at: 30th Aug 2015 06:07
List of New / Remaining Threads (A Preliminary New List)
A lot of this looks good to me. Although I think it would be easier to really see that with a list of the new / remaining categorized threads rather than just the threads & categories to be deleted.

Thread Prefix Idea
Also, I'm not a fan of the prefix idea, as was shown in BatVink's example link to the 'Programming Talk' thread. That thread looks a bit cluttered to me. But the idea of being able to select filters such as "C++", etc, would effectively clear that up. Because as a C++ programmer myself, I wouldn't wanna have to wade through all the PHP and BASIC and C# and all the other languages there.

However the prefix idea did seem to work well, I think, in the "Code Snippets" board... which is one I hope is kept. Still, I think the idea of being able to easily filter such prefixes so we don't have to wade through all the others would be a good idea.

But over-using prefixed names in the forum would be one more hassle clutter of its own, just to get to the target.

Overall, I'd say keep everything simple, concise, and straightforward.

On Merging DarkGDK w/ DarkGDK.NET
Since both boards are not that active anymore, it's perhaps not a big deal. But I use DarkGDK, and I've never used DarkGDK.NET. So I'm not too keen on the merger of these two. They are different products, and so I feel should have their own boards. At the very least though, an easily-filterable prefix to specify which one is being referenced in the threads...

Old-Products Category
To help keep these two (DarkGDK products) and other individual products separate, perhaps you could add an 'Old Products' category for products that are old and not actively supported anymore by TGC. Then at least they won't be in the middle of everything else.

Game-Making Category
Also, I'm not sure how you could really remove the Game-Making category. Although I've never looked much there myself, but having a category like that in a game-making forum is kinda foundational. I've noticed since I've joined this forum a couple years ago that many of the games that people have been working on have all been variations of a simple theme - not really much originality or creativity, except in a handful of cases.

Free Game-Making Tutorial or eBook
Having a game-making category, or better yet, perhaps a free ebook or tutorial on creative game-making that covers the main story, to the details that adds realism to the technical bits and pieces of putting something like that together - I think would be a great idea and help people to really get great use out of the game-making tools offered by TGC, not to mention perhaps several more worthy publications of new games.

Game-Making (conclusion)
So my idea here is to create a new eBook for free (perhaps w/ purchase or download of any game-making software), that thoroughly tutors a newbie who has enjoyed playing games to create high-caliber games that are original, creative, and likely to be published (which would free-advertise TGC and their products).

And secondly, creating a new Game-Making category in the forums to be a discussion area, an exchange of ideas and Q & A for people, based on the eBook.

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What we perceive is never reality. It is only a story we tell ourselves based on our current perspective, which has far more to do with our beliefs about ourselves than with anything else.
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Posted: 30th Aug 2015 09:09
Quote: "That is just chrome being normal

Clear your cache..."


It's definitely not Chrome being normal. I've used Chrome for years and I've never, ever seen anything like this.

I refreshed the page with Ctrl+F5 (uncached refresh), no change. Cleared the cache completely, no change. Not happening in Firefox.

Weird. Just realised all the invisible text is bold. And some parts of the text are very slightly visible. 'Spose I could restart Chrome... well that was strange. Restarting Chrome fixed it. Guess it was a graphics glitch of some sort

Crazy Programmer
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Posted: 30th Aug 2015 21:12 Edited at: 31st Aug 2015 20:22
Lookin good boss...Cant wait to see the new forums!

I hope we can bring back life to some of the older Boards with the new merge. (Programming Talk, Game Design)

Looking forward to the new future of our forums!

Edit: Wish we could get private message notifications.

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MrValentine
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2015 04:54
Umm, just saying, but why not simply archive this forum and implement a more functional forum altogether? surely a faster solution?

Just asking...

[Users can just link back to a pre-existing thread as a tail back follow-on...]

Surprised nobody has mentioned it here yet... or have they?

Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2015 06:41
That actually does sound like a pretty good idea. But the Posting Competition...

Really though, that is a good idea.
Ortu
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2015 18:58
because we like this forum. :p

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Posted: 4th Sep 2015 08:49 Edited at: 4th Sep 2015 08:50
I like it too, but sometimes needs must... it will be no different than the first time they moved from the previous setup to this system...

If I understand correctly this forum has been here since 2002? that is over a decade... pretty soon most of us will not even have a car from that era [yes, yes, an Armageddon quote ]

The Next
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Posted: 5th Sep 2015 19:49 Edited at: 5th Sep 2015 19:49
The new forums will be a completely new code base, it takes some inspiration from the current forums for layout and functionality, but the new code base will be easier to update, not to mention faster to load.

In effect this is a big move to a new platform. However the software was designed to work directly with the old forums database layout so we won't have to lose any data.

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MrValentine
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Posted: 5th Sep 2015 19:50
Interesting...

Scraggle
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Posted: 5th Sep 2015 21:27 Edited at: 5th Sep 2015 21:29
Please tell me that the join date isn't going to reset to 2015!

Resetting it so that everyone has joined the new forum in 2015 is not a trivial thing. People have died for less!

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Clonkex
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Posted: 6th Sep 2015 03:51
I agree! I'd hate to lose my Join Date!

I'd be quite happy to stay with the current forums, honestly, but I guess we need to update at some point... I just hope it's not too different from the current one. The last beta forum we had was pretty decent.

MrValentine
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Posted: 6th Sep 2015 08:57
Updates location...

I agree...

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Posted: 6th Sep 2015 09:19
If join dates aren't preserved then why the hell would locations be?
MrValentine
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Posted: 6th Sep 2015 09:20
To reiterate the problem

The Next
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Posted: 6th Sep 2015 12:59
To reiterate there will be no lost data, join dates, locations and everything else will all be kept as is.

The main reason for the forum updates is that the current software won't work on our new server network, so this new software makes use of a new version of PHP.

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Posted: 6th Sep 2015 13:10
Quote: "To reiterate there will be no lost data, join dates, locations and everything else will all be kept as is."


Ok cool

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 00:24
In reference to an issue just brought up in the posting competition, what if there was a new board added for easy communication between forum members and TGC employees?
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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 00:35
Quote: "what if there was a new board added for easy communication between forum members and TGC employees?"


Is such a thing really necessary? Most of the developers can be contacted via e-mail, or if not via PM.
Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 00:40
True!
SpecTre
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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 01:50
Quote: "or if not via PM."


PM needs sorting out however, as it doesn't alert you when you have a message so you could have a message for weeks without knowing.

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Crazy Programmer
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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 02:49
Quote: "PM needs sorting out however, as it doesn't alert you when you have a message so you could have a message for weeks without knowing."

+1

Like I mentioned above, I wish we could get PM notifications.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 09:44
Just realised I had a PM from 2 months ago that I hadn't seen. Yep, we need PM notifications.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 18:08
Quote: "you could have a message for weeks without knowing"


You underestimate my lack of observation. Months...not weeks

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 18:18
I think I can beat that!
I've just been inspired to check my PMs and there is one in there unread from January.
The crazy thing is, it's a reply to a PM I sent and then forgot about!

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 20:45
Wait, we have a PM system???

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 21:38 Edited at: 8th Sep 2015 21:38
Yes a notification system for PMs is need, I will add to my list.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 21:58
Quote: "Yes a notification system for PMs is need, I will add to my list."


Great

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Posted: 8th Sep 2015 22:12 Edited at: 8th Sep 2015 22:15
About PM, it would also be nice to be able to archive and/or delete them. I got one a few months ago that was a semi-spam. Someone was advertising a thread they had started in the forum.

Judging what we see is the greatest blinder and self-limiter in the universe.

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Posted: 9th Sep 2015 22:40 Edited at: 9th Sep 2015 22:41
Quote: "About PM, it would also be nice to be able to archive and/or delete them"

I'm almost positive you can delete them.
Edit: Just checked and you can only delete messages you have sent

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 00:18
This seems like a good place to provide some feedback about HTML text on the current forums. No doubt this has probably been mentioned before, but just to be certain; I think it would be a good idea to have the HTML DIV elements with forum text limited to the size of the screen. There is no real need for the text span beyond the resolution of the monitor or mobile phone, no matter the zoom settings.

Images could also be applied with uniform scaling to show the entire image on screen instead of having it chopped off. If the user needs to see the image zoomed in, they can do so by visiting the direct URL of the image.

Not everyone will agree, but at least I would appreciate such features because it makes things easier to read.

The default font size is too small for most of my monitors, so I have to always have the pages zoomed in somewhat. If i remember correctly (it's been a while since I wrote HTML), the font size should be set to 'em' or some coefficient of the default font size.

All the best.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 01:16
^This
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I second James J's "^This", and also second Chris Tate's entire post.

In effect, I just doubled the total "seconds", so it should now go forward.

Since I am the Forum President can I make this happen?


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MrValentine
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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 02:41
You could always just use reading view... oh, maybe firefox or chrome don't have that built in?

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 02:57
I second it as well!

Quote: "You could always just use reading view... oh, maybe firefox or chrome don't have that built in?"
Firefox does have it built in, but it wouldn't be convenient to have to enter that option all the time.
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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 09:46
If that suggestion means we no longer have to hunt for and toggle images that are too wide and screwing up the display then I absolutely agree, we definitely need this!

Clonex's post dated 30th August is a prime example

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The Next
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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 14:14
The HTML and CSS will be updated as part of the change, the new forum is designed to work well across a range of devices.

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Clonkex
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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 14:32
Quote: "Clonex's post dated 30th August is a prime example"


There's a K in there. People miss that letter almost without exception.

That image doesn't stretch the page for me. I'm on 1080p.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 15:34 Edited at: 17th Sep 2015 15:40
Quote: "That image doesn't stretch the page for me. I'm on 1080p."
But if you have any less than 1080p... Or if someone posts a full 1080p (or larger) image...

What look and feel shall the new forums have?
MrValentine
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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 16:10
Quote: "But if you have any less than 1080p... "




Funny thing, never had this issue on mobile... Windows Phone 8.1/10... IE/Edge

Please The Next do not neglect IE/Edge compatibility like so many others out there...

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 17:47
Quote: "There's a K in there. People miss that letter almost without exception."


Wow, I have never noticed that

Say ONE stupid thing and it ends up as a forum signature forever. - Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 18:07
Me neither. I've read it as Clonex.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 20:30
Quote: "Please The Next do not neglect IE/Edge compatibility like so many others out there.."


It is the other way around. You code for the standards, which are met by Chrome, Firefox, Opera etc. If Microsoft don't adhere to the standards, you can't expect millions of websites to change instead. It is IE that is not compatible.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2015 21:37
I was more specifically referring to not checking for breakages

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