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Mitchell
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I wanne play

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so is this still an abandonned compo entry?



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walaber
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it would appear to be "un-abandoned" at this point

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I think he was kiddin It does still say, "Abandoned Compo Entry Tech Demo [ragdolls]"

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kudos. ragdolls will add something that has been missing in dbpro.

and i look forward to the comp end

I tried.
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update

working on the samurai texture... could be much better, but It'll have to do, considering the time limitations... it's not 100% complete, but it's getting there!



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looks nice.


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like the cartoony-ness. Combine that with the ragdolling and it'll be wicked fun


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Just the change the eyes on the samurai and it will be perfectido!

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Change nothing, all is perfect! (You just have to hurry up!!!)

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got the samurai rigged this morning... and built his .rag file... here's a screenshot from the ragdoll editor...



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Cool! So his flappy things on his belt really flap?

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yup

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5w33t


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Hey, Walaber, why don't you use Rag-gui?

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French gui - I should, your program is much better. But I feel "obligated" to use my own tool, since I wrote it to help making this game

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started animating! the ninja can now walk, run, and throw ninja stars!! he looks pretty cool I think!! I still need to add a few animations, and then animate the samurai as well.

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walaber

Sorry to be a pain, but have just downloaded newton from your web site and having trouble working out where to put the 4th file "newton.dll"!!

I would be greatful at any help you could give me!!! Knowing me, it be something simple!!!

Thank in advance!!

Love your work, good luck!!
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Crazy andy : The newton.dll file must be in the same folder than your project. Post your questions on walaber.com forum,there's a lot of people that can help you!

Walaber : I understand, I was just curious about how your models are working in Rag-gui.

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French gui : thanks, that made it a lot clearer!!!

Gonna have a look at forum

To try this, I've got to be nuts!!!
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update

started animating the samurai, his walk loop looks pretty cool

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holy crap I'm busy with work! I'm starting to doubt my ability to make the deadline... I'm still going to give it a shot, but it's looking pretty tight now, after looking at my work schedule...

ah well, I'll have something for the deadline, dammit

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Posted: 19th Oct 2004 23:32 Edited at: 19th Oct 2004 23:33
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finally got some time to work on the project!! today I added character animation to the character keyframe system, and also added a "realtime preview" to the level editor, so you can preview the sequences in realtime. I made a quick video of the test I made today:

NINJA RUN - AVI file, about 250kb... demonstrates the character/camera keyframe system, and also other commands. the background flips fro ghosted to solid, in the real game, this would be hiding/revealing the geometry.

tomorrow I'll have a little time as well, I hope to complete animating the samurai character, and perhaps finally get around to modelling my "hostage"

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ahaha. on his toes

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HAHAHA hi slegs move so fast it looks like he is dancign to that song "I'm a maniac! MANIAC!"


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hehehehehe I should put that song in

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Quote: "HAHAHA hi slegs move so fast it looks like he is dancign to that song "I'm a maniac! MANIAC!""


erm isn't it: "She's a maniac! MANIAC!"



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the level editor now saves and loads sequences properly! things are looking good... I need to do some animating though


...and write the main game engine sometime

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Quote: ""She's a maniac! MANIAC!" "


ahh youy are correct, i was getting it mixed up with the song im so excited. and also the clip on tommy boy where he's is covered in mud at the petrol station and sings it.


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I feel your pain Walaber, I'm struggling too . TGC haven't given enough time to write a proper FPS, that's for sure.

Good luck, hope you get it finished in time.


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made some more, slow, progress today... did some animating, and config adjusting. I still have a few loose ends to clean up on the editor, and it'll be done (enough to be usable).

I really need to model/texture/animate my "hostage"... then I can start working on the main engine, which should go pretty smoothly as 90% of it uses the same methods/routines as the level editor.

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just hurry up and make a playable version


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good news!

I don't have to come into work this weekend, and my girlfriend is out of town, so I'm gonna spend the entire weekend in front of the computer or getting a snack.

the good news is that in my current apartment there was no good place to put the computer desk, so it's literally sitting next to the refridgerator! I don't even have to stand up

If things go well I might have some kind of playable demo by monday, to make sure it actually runs on other computers.

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Quote: "Good news.....my girlfriend is out of town..."


Yeah, you have the same trouble than me!

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good news? dude if you have the weekend off of work you should be totally having a weekend with your missus, thats blurns cake if she buggers off on your weekend off, that means no making out on your relaxing weekend! atleast no making out with her anyway.


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LOTS of progress today, but not as much as I'd hoped for... perhaps I'll do a little more before I go to bed.

I now have the level editor to a functional point... I won't make any more changes to it unless I run into problems making the actual level data.

I also modeled + textured my hostage!! It looks better than I had thought, and the ragdoll looks pretty cool as well! I won't be posting a screenshot of this, because I want at least a little bit of the game to be fresh when it's released next week.

hmmm...what should I do next... perhaps a little world modelling..

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Just popped into my head if you need additional things to shoot at, flying birds make good targets. Fairly easy to build and animate, they should squawk nicely when shot. Of course, breakable items like vases and windows would add to the 'realism' of the game.
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I wish I had time to add more, but I'm running on the edge just to get the minimum in!

today (so far) I started the main game project. I built and included the entire menu system, including main menu and options screen. it's working great, saving data on exit, etc. now I just need to fill in the PlayGame() part

tonight I hope to finish modelling the game level, so I can start making the actual level for the compo...

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the main level is officially textured. sort of slapped it together, but time is of the essence! tonight after work I intend to light it up, which should make even my crappy UV mapping look pretty cool

I also hope to start up the main game engine, at first just getting it to read the camera keyframes and background object data, and then add from there. shouldn't be too hard.


I'm looking forward to seeing everyone else's entries!

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the basics of the engine are up and running!!

here is a video of the actual game engine, cycling through my level file in realtime. it doesn't look like much, but there is a lot going on that you can't see. now I basically have to import my props, characters, and door systems, and the basic engine (minus scoring / shooting) is all set!!

PREVIEW AVI - approx 600kb!!

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wow! That's amazing! The concrete wall in the end actually looks like is has some sort of bumpmapping This really is turning out great. (though after seeing thing, I'm having doubts about the characters style mixing with the levels style)

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Mitchell - you're right... I'll tweak the lighting at least 1 more time before the final sumbission version... I think making the scene generally brighter will help match the cartoon style of the characters!

but right now I'm just excited how well the engine is working!!!

p.s. no bump-mapping, just a nice Gile[s] lightmap mixed with the video compression

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update

another progress-filled day. the engine now loads doors and props from the level file, and you can even shoot them, knocking them around the level

tomorrow morning before work I hope to put in the character system, which is the last big step before I can work on designing the actual game level, and tweaking the game (hopefully adding sound effects, music, and special effects)

so far it runs really smooth for me, so I'm pretty excited. I thought about releasing another video, but the deadline is so close, I'll just wait until it's complete, and you can all get your hands on it

off to bed!

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great work


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...started putting in the character system this morning, only had about 2 hours to work on it... I got it mostly implemented, it mostly works, but there are a few kinks I was in the middle of debugging when I had to go to work- man that's annoying

Now I have all day to think about the problem, hopefully when I get home and make some changes it'll start working like I hope if I can't get it working tonight, and also make some more progress beyond that, I don't think i'll make the deadline.

if I do get it working however, I should be in good shape to at least turn in a quasi-complete game won't have much time to test it unfortunately.

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excellent news. the game engine can read the character system, and animate the characters properly! you can even shoot them and generate ragdolls like the old demo that started this post. it took a long time to get back to this point of course this version supports a custom level format that can handle background objects, props, doors, characters, camera keyframes, etc...

I even got a few VERY simple effects in today to give it a little more "sauce".

tonight I need to add a few cosmetic items (displaying messages, score, life), add the ability to die, and then script the final game level... hopefully I won't run into any show-stopping bugs in the level editor as I try to make my frist level with more than 2 camera sequences

things are looking good... I think I'll have something to upload on saturday, right before I get on a plane for a business trip to the US. I sure hope I don't upload a corrupted zip or something

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Put the ninja back in the video!!! I liked watching that little guy doing his walk.
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don't worry, you'll get the chance to put those ninjas out of their crappy run-loop misery and into ragdoll glory in a few days time

I better get back to work so I can go home relatively early tonight, and get more done!

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worked until 3:45 this morning... got a lot done, but came across a lot of bumps in the road in the process... I'm not sure how much I'll be able to complete before saturday..

I hope I can produce something worth submitting after all this work...

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got in about 45 minuts this morning

added in a few necessary cosmetics. for those curious, I have to be on a plane to the US on Saturday at about 5pm. I will probably get home from work tonight around 10pm... I also have to do laundry, pack my luggage, and clean my apartment.

as for the game, here's what absolutely must be done before I can submit it:
1) add 1 small feature to the level editor
2) make some adjustments to Newton collision data
3) use my level editor to build the actual game level
4) make the player get hurt when hit
5) add the score
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6) possibly add sound effects
7) possible add music

number 5 is the cutoff line... I think I need at least 5-6 hours to do the above... I suppose if I stay up all night, I just might pull it off

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