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Wiggett
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 18:50 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:16
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go into the human models and see if you can spot some familiar models, then go into the other sets and see if you can spot more familiar models *cough*darkmatter1*cough*


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Indeed :S. Not too good. You should probably email Rich about this.

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I definetly see that, they might have to remove that link to keep people from snagging those.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 19:15 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 19:18
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ok but i want a free copy of dbpro for alerting them to it

what is rich's email anyway, or should i just go through the support email thingy.


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:01
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We are aware of this site (and have been for some time now). They ignore any emails we send them, I don't see any easy route to having those files removed.

Perhaps we could orchestrate a mass spam of their forum

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oh sorry, i just emailed you then rich , you replied while i sent it. So nothing can really be done so far? have you tried goign through whatever webhost they are using? or are they usign their own? (not sure how that works)


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:08 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:09
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Quote: "I don't see any easy route to having those files removed"

I would suggest sue 'em, but unfortunately they're Russian... What the hell, sue 'em anyway...


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:08 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:09
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Well I don't think it was an English site so usually that will mean it's not an English host, which makes things a little more difficult, unfortunately.

Edit: There you go, TCA knew what language it was lol.


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Quote: "Perhaps we could orchestrate a mass spam of their forum"

Hmmm....


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We don't speak Russian, which doesn't help matters as their ISP is. I am quite sure it is not just our models getting ripped off either. I do favour a more guerilla tactic now

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ok i'll need five stout men with some weapons training. We will go in urban camo which i will need tailored to custom fit each team member, will need some breaching gear aswell as flack jackets and full enclosed helmet with voice communication hardware, also i will need 4 mp5's and one benelli shotgun with breaching rounds. we will need a chopper lift with russian airspace clearance, dust off can be around oh wait im sorry did you mean just plain spamming guerilla tactics... whoa uh, disregard this post then


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Ok, here's the plan. Team Alpha gives suppression spamming while Team Beta and Omega flank them from the right, now, their forum isn't in English so we're going to need to call in for regular spam bombs to drill them back. Go! Go! Go!


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save us time, lets just get penny-arcade to link to their site


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:20 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:23
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I'm signed up (well, I will be once I get the confirmation message back) - who's next?

A message is there now...


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:20 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:23
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Lmao, that'd probably work too, it's unbelievable how many sites exceed their bandwidth within minutes of being linked to by PA.


Edit: Roger that Slurpy Wurpy, this is Balls of Might, I too have signed up and am awaiting orders. Over.


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:27 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:28
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Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to spam away in the forums...

This message wont self-destruct, but will be viewed instead.

If anyone does know Russian, that would be handy too - unforuntately I dont...


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http://3dviewport.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=338&st=15&

hehe a lil section of the yougn ones for ya, good ole alexi sale.


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Lol, I just went around reporting all the posts to a moderator!


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hah slurpywurpy, i replied to your post and you replied to the one i did. we must be related, UN DODGEY PLONKEN!


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Indeedly...


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adn by the way if any of us are caught, rich's secretary will dissenvow any knowledge of our actions. we currently do not exist people, let's keep it that way.


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:47 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:48
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Who said that ?

Dont worry - using an alternative alias and e-mail address.


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ha yeah that probably would have been the smart way.


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Quote: "Perhaps we could orchestrate a mass spam of their forum"

I cannot support this in any way.

The correct thing to do is report the site to it's host and the seller to their ISP. If the host & ISP do not take correct action you contact the people that connect the HOST & ISP to the rest of the net and have them blocked. If they dont take action you get them blocked in turn, and so on.

Most ISP's and Hosts are very keen to keep their connectivity and so tend to react very firmly in cases of copyright theft.

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Wheres Z when you need him


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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 20:50 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 20:53
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Quote: "Wheres Z when you need him"

Indeed...

Quote: "The correct thing to do is report the site to it's host and the seller to their ISP. If the host & ISP do not take correct action you contact the people that connect the HOST & ISP to the rest of the net and have them blocked. If they dont take action you get them blocked in turn, and so on."

No doubt Rich has tried the offical ways...


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Hmm... the forum registration form says REGISTER YOUR COMPANY there. Now is that where u guys registered to enter the forums?
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Can you read Russian then ? I just filled in everything and hoped for the best...


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Quote: "No doubt Rich has tried the offical ways..."

If the official channels have been correctly observed this conversation would not be happening, besides, Russian is not that hard. We have Russian community members too who I am sure would be happy to help in resolving the dispute.

Resorting to these methods is just showing a lack of resourcefullness. We're supposed to be a creative community, not a group of net pirates.


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Quote: "I cannot support this in any way.

The correct thing to do is report the site to it's host and the seller to their ISP. If the host & ISP do not take correct action you contact the people that connect the HOST & ISP to the rest of the net and have them blocked. If they dont take action you get them blocked in turn, and so on."


You're welcome to try.


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Quote: "We're supposed to be a creative community, not a group of net pirates"

Pirates nick things though...


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oh my friend next to me can. Lived in Russia for 3 years. That was the translation he game me. Well the registration page actually read "Registration for Institution". Ok am signing up now. U guys already in?

hmm... wondering if i should post in russian.
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Yes - you will certainly be able to spot mine.


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If you really want an eye for an eye at least do it properly for christs sake.

Eye for an eye... They pirate your models right? Well pirate their web site. You could write a DNS squirrel to sniff out their domain name login and point it to TGC, or you could hack their web site and lock them out of it - pointing the DM downloads to the purchase screen.

If you really want justice a wimpy spam attack isn't going to do anything. It's not original, it's not funny, and it probably wont be effective. Odds are they'll just do it back and then it becomes a battle of hacker v's hacker... Who makes the best scripts...

The result is DBP forums will go down for some period at least.

Eye for an eye is not only far more creative, shows at least some technical ability to do, but would also be an appropriate course of action that is both justified and terminal for the opposition.


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I'm sure the admin on that site know exactly how illegal uploading those models is, yet they still did it - IMO they deserve whatever they get, it's the same thing as if someone posts software serials or cracks here, it has to be dealt with in the same brutal but quick fashion.


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ahh, you do know you are talking to me right

anyway settle grettle we are just muckign around having some fun with these crazy russians. as rich has said he has trie dcontacting the site and im pretty sure its host, but being that he doesnt understand russian and that they havent replied he is not getting anywhere so far, he will i assume still tray and take legal action but it will take time, and im sure if he can get a russian db user here to help he will. but for now, lets just annoy these people who use characters that arent on my keyboard.
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Quote: "it's not funny"

Have to disagree there... I made some rather amusing posts...


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If you want to loose these forums too then sure, go be spammers.

I dont mind, it's not as if the TGC community is that productive in terms of finished products anyway. These forums wouldn't be a big loss to the world stage.


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Hmmm... well guys what if like Andy says these forums r spammed in return? Guess should refrain from mentioning anything about TGC there.
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These forums? Lol, we're not going to lose these forums. Firstly, no one's linked to this site, and secondly, even if they bothered to track it back to us, these forums aren't going to go offline from spamming. Har har.


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And who would be silly enough to directly mention TGC ?


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uh..... yeah about that.






nah just kidding i stopped spamming them before, all i say is UN DODGEY PLONKEN! by the by, any aussies here watch merrick and rosso?


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Never heard of it. But then, I'm not an Aussie...


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I'm pretty sure if you email this address kelkos@rambler.ru it should have an effect. I've got sites removed before for similar things, here is the contact info for that site:

Site Adminstrative Contact:
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Aleksey Zanevskiy kelkos@rambler.ru +07.0954313384
Aleksey Zanevskiy
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Moscow,Central,Russian Federation 141130
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Provided the Site Registration:
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name: http://Markets.Ru/ LTD
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Kick some a$$ and take some names.
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well if you're still up for the crack S.W.A.T. team idea of mine i've played plenty of swat 3 so im jiggy with commands and tactics. (and don't say you can't learn from video games, i learnt from america's army that giving water to a person going into shock can be a bad thing.)


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yeah...if they don't know we are from TGC then how are they going to spam us back????

wish i had the link so i could help

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Aww, they deleted most of our posts.

Except one, he actually gave a reason for pirating the CD - They don't make enough money - Well that makes everything just dandy then:

http://3dviewport.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=342&st=0&#entry3513


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Wow, russian looks like such a complex language

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