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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 11th May 2005 08:32
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Do you mean the address

http://jessticular.dbspot.com/?nav=dbhelp

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If you mean there's a temporary technical problem, I'll try again later.

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Posted: 11th May 2005 08:42
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Yes, there is a technical problem that will be corrected within the hour. Afterwards, the DBP help should be up for a looooong time.


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Posted: 11th May 2005 08:47
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There's no JavaScript or ActiveX controls on the site, it's pure HTML, so Nothing can go wrong on that front...

The hosting was the little issue, but it looks like Jimmy is on it, as always

Just waiting for Jimmy to plug in the MySQL and then the actual database, and she'll be off and away

LiT, I thought about that too, however, I want to wait a while till we get a bit better user-base happening, and I get all of my To-Do's finished, then I might have a chat with Rich

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Posted: 11th May 2005 09:32
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It is fixxed.


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Posted: 11th May 2005 10:10
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Hoo-Rah!

However, Peter, all those Text commands you added... They're gone

My To-Do list now has Backing up the Database as a 100% priority item.

Time to see what I can do about it

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Posted: 11th May 2005 11:13
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oops ... jess would you want me to add a mirror even if you back it up ?

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Posted: 11th May 2005 12:48
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Contact me on MSN, and we'll talk about it

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Posted: 11th May 2005 17:53
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Whoops... old database

Latest database (before yesterday) restored


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Posted: 11th May 2005 18:08
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@JessTicular and Ec3t

Thanks! It works fine now. (Will have to withdraw an earlier post elsewhere ...)
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Posted: 11th May 2005 19:31
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Alrighty!
Sweet as, thanks Jimmy!

Everyone, we're back online once again

Green,
It's ok We went offline for a bit, and now we're back into the normal swing of things

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Posted: 11th May 2005 20:25
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@green gandalf and all

np it's meant for us all including me ...

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Posted: 11th May 2005 22:11
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Great! This should help no end. I'll start filling in the sections now I think... I'll begin with INPUT....

BWAHAHA..erm..er. Yay?
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Posted: 11th May 2005 22:21
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Quote: "Latest database (before yesterday) restored "

does that mean the text commands are in?

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Posted: 11th May 2005 22:36
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I take it there's no way to edit new entries? I can understand why - too open to abuse and all that, but I missed a couple of typos in the Input commands.
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Posted: 11th May 2005 22:40
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Peter,
Yeah, they're in

Anti,
I'll fix up them entries for you

I've got Users on my To-Do list, but it's not much point once the command list is full, cos after that, they're all only comments or extra examples

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Posted: 11th May 2005 23:06 Edited at: 11th May 2005 23:06
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Just for everyone who wants to know, Here's my To-Do list;



They're roughly in some sort of order...

A one to note, is the Syntax Highlighting one. So, any BBCode that is inserted into Code examples will become obsolete once I get around to putting in the scripts ( have them mostly done from a previous online experiment with online DBP source highlighting ) then you'll be able to have sexy Default-style Syntax Highlighting

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Posted: 11th May 2005 23:09
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Thanks Jess!

It's slow day at work today, so I'm working my way through the Input commands. It's funny actually - figuring out working examples is giving me all sorts of new ideas....

..some of 'em are even related to DB..hehe..
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Posted: 11th May 2005 23:25
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Have you considered coding a simple API to be used by IDEs? Some kind of standard URL format that returns an XML file maybe - it would offer a nice way of accessing the Help DB while coding. Of course, it would also make it a lot more popular, and then there's the extra traffic...hmmm...

If you think it's a good idea, I'd be happy to put together a little PHP interface for you if you like.

(Yeah, I'm a little bored, I admit it!)

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Posted: 12th May 2005 00:30
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Argh!

Sorry - I've dropped MouseClickMove, MoveMouseX and MoveMouseZ in Core..

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Good site... but where's the programmers of DARK BASIC PRO? I'm very angry for this , we r users not vendors!

For me it's very simple: PATCH+HELPFILES=HAPPY USERS

but the operation is another: PATCH-HELPFILES=CONFUSED USERS

See u programmers

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Posted: 13th May 2005 01:32
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they quit the company , with all the sales they got to vegas and gambled and lost .

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Posted: 13th May 2005 02:38
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...And in desperation they've scraped together a bit of cash and are gonna write an MMORPG.

....So I lurked for a year, deciding when to strike....
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Posted: 17th May 2005 20:38
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really? I think they r counting all money that received from packs selled on site!

Can anyone send me all txt files of upgrades (from 5.1 to 5.7)?



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Posted: 17th May 2005 21:07 Edited at: 17th May 2005 21:10
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what do you mean the txt file ? you mean the new features bug corrected etc ?

ps: no no no i'm telling you , they got miniaturized in there own computers with a device made in lego to hide from the police officers cause they rob a bank (to have funds to build dbpro) and so the updates are made in nanoseconds ... (bugweek) , but since they live in a dx33 the only capable device to recieve them (due to brain speed) they finally end up to wrap in time ... from lag to lag

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Posted: 18th May 2005 19:10 Edited at: 18th May 2005 19:11
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I see... so *thats* where all those updates come from. Does that explain the strange voices I hear coming from my speakers as well?

BTW, Ministro - check out http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=29734&b=15 for a list of previous updates, fixes and (dum da duummm) new commands!

Which reminds me - what text do we put into the "TGC says:" field if were entering in some of the new commands into the online help files?

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Posted: 18th May 2005 19:15
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you can write nothing , or leave a blank space . It's not ashaming we already know new commands are uncommented

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Actually, if you leave it blank, you'll get a validation error, telling you to fill it in, so just put in something like "Currently undocumented"

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Posted: 18th May 2005 23:01
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so the second option was the good one , but since you read it fully you knew that

other than that all fields were tgc said nothing have great chances to be formated after i think no ? (@jess) else , if tgc has to say something , i think we will know that when we post the manual cause mike will integrate it as he said he would .

were are we at so far , i mean ... there are lots of categories almost 15 ... some are really filled some not , i will try tonight to fill one and make a little time donation for us .

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Posted: 18th May 2005 23:29
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Yeah, I can easily go back an edit in new information if TGC releases any. If not, then it should be fine as it is

Ok, here's the current stats;
132 commands ( Out of about 1150 );
46 User comments;
12 User Examples; and
11 Empty catergories ( File, Bitmap, Sound, Music, Light, Matrix, World, Particles, 3D Math, FTP, Multiplayer )

So, we're still in the infant stages, but we're growing.

All we need is everyone to add a command a day, and that'll keep the workarounds away

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Posted: 19th May 2005 00:18
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Aww..we can all watch it grow up. Just as long as it it doesn't start getting mmody. And staying out late at night. Or throwing parties when we're all logged out...<Sigh>..yes indeed, we have it all to come...

(Anyhow, as long as you can live with my typos, I'll continue donating my meagre efforts!)

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Posted: 19th May 2005 00:26
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just don't worry we started it we will finish it.

(if you tolerate my meagre jokes only)

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Did you ever get it so I could add my comment about set camera aspect?

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Posted: 19th May 2005 05:40 Edited at: 19th May 2005 05:42
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it works , the command is set . What exactly are you asking for lit ?

ps : Star Wars episode 3 ... great movie , it's so weird a movie can be done commencing with it's end , and begin to be finalized in it's end . I should comment that this is the best piece of art i ever saw , period , for any kinds of creation beyond the lord of the ring . tgc has to say nothing about this .

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When I added the command it wouldn't let me or Jess add a user comment to it. I was just wondering if he had it fixed. The help files lead you to believe that the default aspect value is 0.75 when it is in fact 1.3333333 (width div by height).

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yea he took care of it .

jess is actually planning to make a dbpro program to convert the html's help file to a standard he can use . soon the many commands are going to be all in there making users able to only comment and not have to post commands themselves .

I think this will be a chapter for us all ... the first user based community reliying ... a major force proof

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wait...you live in china or something? how'd you see Episode III?

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i saw it when it was said i would . if i knew all , i wouldn't be happy to discover though , so i prefer to maintain a certain degree of mystery on my location

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Hey Lit,
Yeah, I took care of it. It was a problem with how I had the database settup. Stupid mistake, but easy to fix

Also, it turned out that the comments were actually there, but they had defaulted to another command number ( that was the problem ), so there were about 5 or 6 comments for a command that didn't actually have anything to do with them

And, yea, Ec3t here convinced me to write a little DBP app to scan the files in the Help File directory and convert them into some php documents that I just execute once and all the commands get added

Don't have time till weekend after this, so untill then, everyone keep adding

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thanx Anti Dragon.
Now i can try to code my game into another editor (IDE) like BOXER TEXT EDITOR or EDITPLUS... i need SYNTAX HIGHLIGHTED



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Posted: 22nd May 2005 13:47
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Now both of the comments I added to set camera aspect while it was messed up are there. Can you remove one?

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Quote: "And, yea, Ec3t here convinced me to write a little DBP app to scan the files in the Help File directory and convert them into some php documents that I just execute once and all the commands get added"


Fantastic !...this really should get this project going. Itll be nice to be able to add comments rather than having to make the entrys first.
Really looking foreward to this !

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Posted: 23rd May 2005 13:15
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LiT, your second comment is gone now

Baggers,
Yeah, it's a bunch of trivial little issues, like not writing in the same command twice, etc... and doing a few test runs before I set the app loose on all the help files, etc...

Just gotta make sure I do it all right so I don't bust the database full of shiza.

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PLEASE add in another feature to sort by the most comments, so I can actually see what other people have to say about the commands. It's wearisome to go and click all the commands and then clicking the "back" button and clicking on the next command. At least make the commands pop up in a new window...

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Err... They already actually show how many comments there are.

Just underneath the command name, it says "x comment(s)"

Just go into the All section, and you can see all commands, and they all have how many user-comments each has

Admittedly, there aren't any that say "no comments"... But I figured that you be a waste of space, especially if you were looking at the All section.

As an example, have a look at the Basic 3D section, as all but one command in that section have comments
( Basic 3D;
http://jessticular.dbspot.com/index.php?nav=dbhelp&subnav=Basic%203D
I can't link it, as it has a space in it )...

Also, if you go to the main dbHelp page, I have added a section that tells you how many commands, comments, and examples have been posted.

Anymore updates I wont be doing untill after Friday ( 3 assignments due then, so I gotta work my arse off till them ).

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This is great. Any estimate on when a downloadable version will be available ?

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Quite possibly a little bit of time... around 3 weeks now...

My Uni work has really caught up on me, and I've gotta get that outta the way before I even think of doing anything more with the site.

I have a 4 week holiday, and a whole LOAD of stuff to do during it, so I'll try to make myself time to have a bash at getting it all sorted

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Great!
This integrated with the proveded examples and the small samples is a great resource!


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A downloadable help resource is something to be done , i dunno wether we can make so dbpro downloads the help file each time it runs or something but that could come .

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Great news, everyone!

All the commands ( besides expansion packs, which includes Advanced Terrain ) are now into the database!

Here's the news posting I made on my Home Page:

Quote: "Woo-Hoo!

I wrote the app, ran the app, ran the scripts, and then jumped in joy!

After Ec3t convinced me to write the app to populate the database with all commands from the help files, I set to it, and had a working app in under 3 hours which spat out perfect php code everytime, and gave me the easiest way to mass-add all the help-file commands.

The only thing you'll notice is that none of the syntax exists for any of the new commands, nor is there any examples.

Both of these me and Ec3t have to do manually, as they are abstract, and cannot be extracted from the help files directly.

If anyone wants to help, then give me an email at sweet_prozack@hotmail.com , and if I think you're trust-worthy enough to access my database information, then I'll delegate a section to you

It looks like it's all coming together now! Hopefully over my Uni holidays, I'll be able to knock a few more items off my To-Do list!

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Now, I just have to go and fill-out the syntax for all the commands

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Hi,

This is really cool, good stuff Is there a search facility?

p.s. also is there an edit button? I added a code example, which is ok, but what if I want to modify it?

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