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Chiwawa
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PETRA!!! I WANT YOU BRO TO PLAY AC/DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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oh yeah, and raven knows what he's talkin about when he says DVD-RAM. Go here, it might offer some solace, http://www.flatbed-scanner-review.org/DVD-RAM_CD-R_ProDirect_CD-ROM/Panasonic_DVD-RAM_Maxell.html. I did buy a DVD-RAM once; unfortunately, it wasn't compatible with my computer.

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Hey dudes. This is Petrat's older brother, Olly. How y'all doin'? I just wanna say a few things about the whole matter of 'what is punk rock?'. Rite, I listen to quite a lot of different styles of rock music. And I'm always trying to broaden my horizon. I play the guitar, as me bruvver said, and i play stuff like blink, Nirvana, Green Day, Sum 41, Good Charlotte. That kinda millarky. I consider that 2 be punk rock. Thats the music I like to listen to and favour over other styles. You say kids dont know what punk rock is?! Well duh, they werent alive for the Sex Pistols and those such bands. I wasn't. For them, these bands are punk rock, for me these bands are punk rock. Its a different form of punk rock though. The word punk doesn't mean the songs arent melodic, and half shouted rather than sung. Respect to bands that have crafted such a form of music, all music deserves credit, and that's definately still good music. If you want to call modern punk rock such as blink etc "pop-punk" then so be it. But becoz the music is melodic and tuneful and has poppy hooks, not becoz its commercial. A commercial "punk" band are Busted. I think generally, people who go around preaching what kinda genre different bands fall under etc, dont like the music the bands play. And I don't have any time for it. Avril Lavigne is commercial. But it's ignorance if you class her in the same line as bands that have really put hard work into being where they are today. I feel sorry for her band. They're pretty good. I bet they love being named after the lead singer, who can't actually sing all that good. Fair play though, she'd get it... x-d I can't play AC/DC, i havent heard much of their stuff. Sorry. If I come across any of their music though in guitar books, i'll try 2 learn it. Rock music is a wonderful gift to this world, and i live my life for it. Is it right to say I'm fake about saying that just becoz I havent heard alot of the music you guys might listen to? I don't think so. I like the music I like. And in true punk fashion, if anybody has a problem, f**k em quite frankly. Btw, I play a bit of Metallica and Guns n Roses too, well, try to like. Aaaaand, Kangaroo2, No Regrets might be a Green Day song, but it's not Time Of Your Life. That's called Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life) on the album sleeve. Just thought I'd clear that one up. Thanx 4 ur time ppl.

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personally i prefer Basket Case

"do you have the time, to listen for a whine, about everything and all the things that i want" (^_^) hehee

trust me kid, i'm not old enough for the Sex Pistols or anything like that, but i still remember what Punk is... see what really truely makes Punk, well punk is the songs. I mean you could actually class Sum41 as a Punk-Rock band, because of what they sing about ... however in the same sense you CAN'T class Avril Lavgine as Punk-Rock as she is Pop-Rock (like Britneys last album)
Blink182 are just pop really, through'n'through ... and Busted are a Pop-Rock

Nirvana is a Metal-Rock (i'm mixxing my elements hehee) or at a stretch they're Heavy-Rock ... its not just about how they play the type of Rock they do, but its also about what is in the lyrics of the songs they play.

If someone uses an eletric guitar that doesn't automatically make them Rock, just like using an Aucostic Guitar doesn't make someone Rock'n'Roll
it's the melody they goto and what they sing about... i mean Greenday for example are a very famous American Indi band, but they don't call it indi in america.

god i love my music so much (^_^) ... what a pitty i'm not in that line of work hehee - wouldn't that be a bitch, not knowing what you band is classed as being in the music industry

The Offspring - now theres a band bloody hard to place in the scales, as sometimes they're Hip-Hop, sometimes they're Pop, sometimes they're Pop-Rock lol
personally i like Alien Ant Farm (Rock)

and if you can figure out why AAF are Rock, then perhaps we've all learnt something today hehee

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"The word punk doesn't mean the songs arent melodic, and half shouted rather than sung."

I never said they were. Good Charlette is even farther from punk. Punk is souly classified on a basis of the lyrics. Remove, the tune, vocalist, everything, and look at the lyrics. Punk advocates a life without authoritative opression. Where does Blink ever advocate this additude? Next you are going to tell me that Foo Fighters are punk. This, my friend, is seriously BULL PLOP.

"I think generally, people who go around preaching what kinda genre different bands fall under etc, dont like the music the bands play."

I for one, do like these indi-alternative bands. I do, however, hate rap.

Now Compare the lyrics of GD and DK:

GreenDay:



Dead Kennedys:



and by the way, it's excuseable to classify GD and Sum 41 as punk; but Blink and Good Charlette...

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@petrat's brother, you said you played Metallica. Which Metallica, pre- or post- Black.

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Pre-Black. I have ...And Justice For All on CD. I can't solo, but I have fun trying. I can do the tapping bit at the start of the solo to 'One' tho... Raven and Large_nostril, who made u such amazing music gurus? Music is how its interpretted. Punk can be anything.
"Punk advocates a life without authoritative opression. Where does Blink ever advocate this additude?" Dude, your mum!!! Since when??? Im talking about punk from a musical perspective, not lyrical. I like these bands first and foremost coz their songs rock out. Blink's music is punk. The fact that they're doin they're thing, swearing as much as they like in songs and annoying adults, thats punk. Nirvana were punk too. Kurt Cobain described them as punk rock. Obviously a different style of punk tho. But still with the punk vibe. I dont claim 2 know everything about music. I just preach for wot I believe in. Punk is very much about rebelling. And alot about teenage angst, i believe. Blink sing about these issues. As do a lot of bands, Sum 41, Green Day. Punk isnt necesarily about "advocating a life with authoritative opression..." Someone swallowed a dictionary... By all means it can do tho. Would the Sex Pistols look down on a band such as blink bcoz they claim to be punk? I shud hope that they respect them as fellow musicians, and that they appreciate the music. Alot of those bands inspired modern punk. Rancid and The Ramones definately did. But it comes out differently. Punk, is about rebelling, and about standing up for wot u believe in, and doing your thing, and giving everyone else the middle finger. If you dont agree, hey, thats what they want, man.

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Quote: "Nirvana were punk too. Kurt Cobain described them as punk rock."


Oh, oh ooooooooooooooooooooooh, oh you don't, how dare you say that!!!! How Dare You Say THAT!!!!! Nirava was never punk, nirvana created a new geanra, alterative. Nirvana was the the begining of a new sound, they plaved the way for others.



punk

n.

a. Slang

1. A young person, especially a member of a rebellious counterculture group.
2. An inexperienced young man.

b. Music

1. Punk rock.
2. A punk rocker.

c.

1. Slang A young man who is the sexual partner of an older man.
2. Archaic A prostitute.


Blink and Sum 41 are pop, some of Green Days early stuff might be thought of as Punk.

Quote: " Well duh, they werent alive for the Sex Pistols and those such bands. I wasn't. For them, these bands are punk rock, for me these bands are punk rock."


Well N*sink could be called Disco with that logic. What next, you gonna tell me that O' Fortune is goth?

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"Raven and Large_nostril, who made u such amazing music gurus?"
As most would agree, Raven knows all. As for me, I'm just makin' it a point of mine to point out others wrongs.

"Dude, your mum!!!"
Is that an insult? Please, somebody tell me, is that an insult???

"Im talking about punk from a musical perspective, not lyrical."
So as long as they cuss and got an electric guitar, they're punk.

"The fact that they're doin they're thing, swearing as much as they like in songs and annoying adults, thats punk.."
I see your logic; so if it's not classical and it's not country, it's punk. makes perfect sense now. I can't remember the last time my parents got mad at me listening to GD or Blink or Sum 41.

"Punk is very much about rebelling."
Duh... That's what I've been trying to tell you.

Nirvana, punk!!! Don't make me swallow my own vomit.

"Punk isnt necesarily about 'advocating a life with authoritative opression...' Someone swallowed a dictionary..."
Just because I'm able to make an argument without spelling the word "though" T-H-O, doesn't mean I swallowed a dictionary. And I sure as hell hope no punk bands ever start "advocating a life with authoritative opression". Cause if they do...

"Would the Sex Pistols look down on a band such as blink bcoz they claim to be punk?"
Quite possibly for tarnishing a good name they built.

Got to go listen to some Coal Chamber, I mean punk with their screaming and cussing and what not...

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Punk rock begins with:

Iggy & The Stooges
Suicide
Richard Hell & the Voidoids
Sex Pistols
Etc...

I wouldn't even include The Clash personally(but that's just opinion).
As for greenday and such, man they just dress sortof like those guys did, but their music is much closer to what you'd have to call "powerpop"

The great thing about recorded music is that it's there long after the artists who made it are dead or burnt out, and punk still means what it did then, 'cos you can still buy those records today.
I got nothing against all these newer bands, but you should realize that they're cashing in on an image that was real important for a while but died out by the early 80's - nevertheless the term "punk" was first applied to a style of music as early as the very late 60's.
Blink 182 etc are just making pop music, with as you say half shouted vocals and wearing some safety pins here and there, because to the kids of today that seems really different to what was going on before, because, as you say they weren't alive then. This has made them (the bands doing it today) real successful($$$$).

Still, if you wanna hear raw punk rock at it's finest, get "Raw power" by Iggy and the Stooges, or the single "Blank Generation" by Richard Hell and the Voidoids, and of course, NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS by the sex pistols!! (oh do play that one LOUD!!) Compare any of those tunes with anything that blink 182 or greenday ever did, and then see if they're even slightly similar

I highly recommend:
"Frankie teardrop", Suicide(those guys didn't even have guitar)
"No Fun", Iggy & the Stooges.
And from later on:
"Pretty Vacant", The Sex Pistols
Even if you just hear those few tracks you'll get a damn good idea of what the original punk rock was like, and see why no-one who's heard them could really think of blink 182 or greenday, sum41 or really anything that's going on today as punk rock

Punk rock didn't advocate anything, it just didn't care enough to, singing about opression and such was the province of John lennon and that gang, who were hated by the punk rockers on principle (though some of them later admitted to loving the beatles) This is the reason why I wouldn't class "the Clash" as Punk

So there is a pretty reasonable description of what punk rock was/is, but
In the end, music is music, and so long as you enjoy it what does it matter what it's called?

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interesting conversation this is.


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Bonjour mon amis. I'm awake now... This thread is facinating, hearing everyone's different opinions coming together. Danmatsuma, "...but in the end, music is music, and so long as you enjoy it what does it matter what it's called?" Thank you very much. That is the best point anyone has made all the way through this thread. It's right up there with "Dude, your mum!!!"
Nirvana started off the poppier side of the grunge scene. That's a form of punk. I can spell though, I choose not to, tho. My music, my "pop-punk", or power pop, whatever u wanna call it, thats my music. It's my love. It's what I play on the guitar, what I sing too. The songs I write are in this style. It's fun, it makes me feel alive. I appreciate other styles of rock music greatly, they all contribute to eachother. I think this arguement about what is punk rock will go on, and wont be resolved. Because it's about opinion. I'm just gonna enjoy what I'm doing. And write songs, and become famous. x-d
*watching Kerrang* Ah now there's a great punk band. Linkin Park...
...I'm joking u fools...

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Good old Punk rock music albums:

Bérurier Noir...any album

Sex Pistols's Nevermind the Bollocks

Sub-Humans's Day the Country died

Ramones...Any of their songs

Dead Kennedy's Bedtime for Democracy or Plastic Surgery Disasters



Good POP-Punk Albums:

Dinosaur's Green

Superchunk's On the Mouth

Lou Barlowe or Sebadoh's Bakesale

Green Day's 1000 smoothed out slappy hours(sp??)
or Kerplunk

Stand GT



My personal choices...

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Its me (Ben(not olly)) again.

Blink and Sum 41 are pop, some of Green Days early stuff might be thought of as Punk.

oh rite so whats everyone doing 2morrow?......
Some of sum 41's stuff is pop but that doesnt mean they r a 'pop band'. Blink 182 are a punk rock band ok?!?!

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-Blink 182 are a punk rock band ok?!?!



nope.

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'Dude, you mum'?? wtf??

you can't pull of Dude and mum in the same sentance... it has to be 'YOUR MOM'
(^_^) cause you can't help but have a deeper voice with saying 'mom' - makes it more insulting.

and i think i'm gonna duck outta this chat cause its pretty clear to see where this is all going - and i've not fireproofed these pants yet

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does anyone in here really plays music...

I mean,if you ever rented a music local,hanged around there and actually listened to other people's jams?If yes,then you probably for sure,heard REAL punk or metal music.

(This question actually excepts the user known as Empty )

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actarus lol...you r listening ....Bérurier noir.. lol

an english who listen french music..first time that i see that

do you listen "les vulgaires machins" as well? lol
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and e.e.e PETRA ... LETS ear..some tunes from AC/DC ...played by your brother..thx
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HE DOESNT KNOW AC/DC!!
Kangaroo2 will upload 'Polly' soon once hes got the file..

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P.S. Its 'petrat'

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P.S.(again)
Raven: My brother knows how to say things, and anyways, he comes from England so u wouldnt know how they speak there :-s

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- (This question actually excepts the user known as Empty )

Thank you. I feel honoured to read this from the man who posted *the* ultimate musician photo. What does a man need but a girl and his guitar by his side.

(note the well thought out use of the indefinite article and the personal pronoun)

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-I feel honoured to read this from the man who posted *the* ultimate musician photo. What does a man need but a girl and his guitar by his side

Well that and that green thing how's it called?....Oh yeah,Heineken


-an english who listen french music..first time that i see that

Who said I'm English?

J'écoute plus vraiment du Béru c'était il y a longtemps mais ca reste du bon punk rock.

lol Les Vulgaires Machin avec Scatophile en puissance?heh J'étais de la sécurité sur le site de leur show cet été au festival.

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- Well that and that green thing how's it called?....Oh yeah,Heineken
LOL How could I forget that!

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I prefer Guinness

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I prefer Guinness too
i wanna try it with blackcurrent, as i think its about the only combo i've not had yet - but its suppose to be pretty good with it

tried it with Dandilion and Burdock, it REALLY brings out the flavour - definately and interesting taste

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I prefer Guinness
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Stout or bitter ?

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Bitter, definitely.

As the ads say: "Guinness is good for you" (unless you drink too much at a time )

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- Bitter, definitely.
Yep, that's tasty.

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-Who said I'm English?

dsl je croyais que tu étais englais... alors je trouvais bizard que t'écoute de la music francaise...

and it does not matter that your brother does not know AC/DC ... i want him to play it anyway!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | repeat
e:::::ge::::ae::::de

there's some acdc for you
Loath them myself, 'cept for some real early stuff before bon kicked it,
who can guess what tune that is?

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E:::: DDD::::AAA

This easy one?

BTW ACDC is easy to play...Well some of their tunes though.I remember the first tapping that came out of my hands was Thunderstruck and I got it pretty easily,of course my guitar's frets aren't in-creased so I'm no Yngwie Malmsteen.

I've read a few of Angus's tutorials in Guitar World(or was it Guitar player??)

A good practice I found when starting was punk rock but eventually I needed to evolve(which punk hasn't really done in 30 years ) so I turned out to practice playing iron Maiden's first record and songs form Metallica(old)Then when I got a little more experienced I started playing Slayer and as I musically evolved furthermore,went on to British and Canadian Alternative rock.

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He doesnt care wether its easy or not, coz he doesnt know AC/DC songs FFS!

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ee.e.e petra... and what it do?
.....he can find the hmm how do you say that in english.... i mean...the "partition"..."notes" ...and then learn it...
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Oh wow, someone said Yngwie Malmsteen... heh now I would be very impressed if he can play that stuff clearly (very fast indeed, and really clear).

Time gentlemen please is on Paramount now? Must watch again. Funniest thing since Red Dwarf when I saw them the first time. Note though that there will not be a third series (found this out from the web site ages ago). Well not on Sky One anyhows. Was dropped for some really really stupid reason... and whatserface was utterly drop dead too....

Obvious "when I was young" guitar rift : Money for nothing - Dire Straits

Oh, and do some Ozric tentacles. That got really messed up when you were off your head (mix of guitar and synth)

Cheers

Someone didn't know AC/DC???????? God.... getting old.... Back in black... now there was a song...

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Hmmm. Didn't see second page....

Anything by Sisters of Mercy. Brilliant....

Oooh, Ozzy is on Paramount now (Frank Skinner show from years ago)...

Cheers

Ps. Guiness and black (Paul Ince as my ex-boss called it, thanks to world cup where he wore a white bandage that was a bit red from blood - Good olde English pride moment that one) is really really nice. Drank Guiness for years. But Guiness and black is great when you are trolleyed as it tastes like milk shake. Great. Just it has a pink head, and you look a bit noncey. V.Nice. When you don't care less how you look

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lmao@Dazzag
i prefer the Draught Stout more (but thats just me)

Hope this works ... £175 ($330) for a DvD-RW, only 2x for DvD-Ram access and DvD-R access but still not bad for the cash considering all the software is included.

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he doesnt know AC/DC, and he doesnt know the songs, coz he hasnt heard them. U have to have heard the songs to learn how they r played. anyway, he'll give it a go if you can get the guitar tab for one of the AC/DC songs..

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Posted: 26th Mar 2003 15:36 Edited at: 26th Mar 2003 15:37
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-U have to have heard the songs to learn how they r played

This isn't true...I can play a song without having EVER heard it...So does my brother,in fact,his girlfriend buys him Classic Guitar book with music form the 1400's and he plays them all...

Also,got the Beatles anthology(big black book) and I played many songs that I had never heard before.

Check the tabs on the site below,there's all of AC/DC's:

http://www.badboyboogie.de/

I agree with Dazzag,let him play us some Yngwie Malmsteen

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hey ...play BACK IN BLACK ...its the easyest one kekeke

the tab is here:
http://www.mikesguitarsite.co.uk/tabs/acdc/back_in_black.php

and if you want to listen it (right click on it and "save as" or copy and past the URL..because if you click on it..it does not work..):
http://www.geocities.com/x_chiwawa_x/file/back_in_black.mp3
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Blink are hard, their first to albumns were punk rock, the aftermath were all (crappy) pop-rock. Saying that, play `Pathetic` by Blink.

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- U have to have heard the songs to learn how they r played.

Hmm, how do you play a song that has never been played before then, like when you've just composed one? Or somebody else?

That's what scores and tabs are for.

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it doesnt have to be easy to play..in fact, I'll upload some solos that my brother can do . I'll get him to learn back in black anyway..

a score is...someone explain coz i cnt be arsed to explain it, its complex..


guitar tabs tell you what frets to play on the guitar and what strings to hit, strum, tap, pull off, etc..and they also include the signs for vibrato, etc..

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... is back in black an album?..it sounds like it is?...
what song do u want?

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Back in black is a song,the first one I personally played.

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ok, he'll learn back in black. now, everything is laid out..someone please do a table of when the verses, chorus, etc come in because it only has the tab for the verses, chorus, etc on seperate parts and my brother doesnt know how it goes. anyway, i'll get him to learn it!

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in fact, give me a link to where i can download it from

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in fact, give me a link to where i can download the song from

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Make him play something a bit harder than AC/DC,about every of my non-guitarist friends plays it along with nothing Else Matters...

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