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Richard Davey
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Posted: 15th Sep 2006 14:33 Edited at: 25th Sep 2006 18:57
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Hi all,

File Now Deleted - Get RC2 instead

Attached is FPS Creator 1.03 RC1. This includes the following fixes, and also introduces load/save. Please test it out and post your feedback here. The feedback should be about what the upgrade does, not what it *should* do (i.e. this isn't the place for 'feature requests', it's the place to report bugs with it)



(I'm not sure why the readme only says about 'internal' load/save mechanisms, it's present in the actual games too. Weird, needs updating I guess)

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Posted: 15th Sep 2006 14:41
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Thanks Rich, although I'll wait until others have tested before I download.


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So, the Storyzone bug it's still in there...

Anyway, I'll wait for others to test it before I try it myself.

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I've got to go now, but I'll test later this evening or this weeked.

I'm glad you've called it RC1 now, for those of you who don't know what it stands for, it's Release Candidate 1. It means we can test it, but it may not be the final version.

Give my comments once I've tried it.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2006 15:43 Edited at: 15th Sep 2006 15:44
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great, all i need now is to get home

I'll gladly test it out, i'm not afraid of patches

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Great I'm on vacation now but I'll test as soon as I'm back home!

But can anyone explain this one, I'm not sure what this means to end users:


"Fixed material system so it can now handle materials 11-99 properly"

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I have installed this new 1.03RC1 Update using the supplied .exe installer of course.

Open level in FPSC test run compile - everything seems fine.

Exit back to editor - build compile final game.exe and exit FPSC.

Run final game.exe.

I see no sign of Save/Load. All I have is the Single Player V1 interface and program.

Using the F6 key for intstance in game does not Save Game - it does nothing. Pressing Esc in game Does not return to the Options menu Showing Save/Load options as it should. They obviously do not exist.

Not sure if this is just due to my stupidity - but I have done nothing other than what one should as far as I can tell. Its Not Rocket Science is it?

i.e. Install compile game and run.

If there are special things a user must do in setting this up to work correctly then one would think there would be a supplied document to tell users how to do so? There is no advice or documentation supplied regarding either installation or set up if such advice or guidance is needed.

In the editor Build game dialogue box - choose the setup.ini for the game and the Menu Exit and Contiunue buttons are available for choosing or changing by the user - However I dont see any new Save or Load menu button idicators - where are they? Should this installation not have updated the editor in some way.

It does not seem to have updated FPSC with the Save/Load feature at all.

Hopefully others may have better luck than I.



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Now I don't understand a bit... What changed? Is the save/load in the patch or not? Have TGC gone mad? (Sorry for this one).

Anyone can clear it out?

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Quote: "It does not seem to have updated FPSC with the Save/Load feature at all."


Its may be there but not compiling correctly. Either that or I am just a complete Wally and thats quite possible.

Really I cant make it much clearer than that.

Please try and keep this thread for reporting findings or bugs as Rich asked or its going to get out of hand.



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It works!

Well, the screen comes up anyway. You CANNOT edit the menu in the editor if you want save/load to stay, you have to edit it by a text file. It replaces the orignal mygame fpi files, so you have to make a new project to get it to work or copy over the title page.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2006 16:59 Edited at: 15th Sep 2006 17:06
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Well these are Lee's words:

"Added internal mechanisms for SAVE/LOAD feature (to be supplimented seperate to these fixes)"

"To be supplemented seperate to these fixes"

I know that Richard Davey said otherwise, but it sounds like in fact save/load will be a separate update.

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Same issue here. Save/load is nowhere to be found, however speed (FPS) seems to be restored to the normal V1 speed.

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It's in the mygame project file! If you installed it, make a short level and use the standard mygame project file, then compile. IT WORKS! I saved and loaded and its AWSOME! Some bugs, but nothing serouis - I was standing on a weapon and it got offset (well, not on, just close) and a dead enemy dissapeared but that's all acceptable

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Here, a pic of the load menu they made. It does do what they say!

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Quote: "so you have to make a new project to get it to work or copy over the title page.
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Thanks Airslide.

That explains a lot. I'll try that.

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What about the source?

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Quote: " What about the source? "


I don't think you'll get it untill the final version of V 1.03 is out.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2006 17:36 Edited at: 15th Sep 2006 17:38
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Ok... i hope it happen soon

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It works but some few points. When pressing F6 the last saved game is always slot 1. It's better to take the next unoccupied slot.

When loading a game with F9 there isn't a progressbar during loading.
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I have some problems:

on the installer when it asks for your name and serial you cant press back (me being fussy)

and also i found that the ai starts and cuts out (i made a map with 25 characters near you shooting you at once and they all did until i shot one of them then they all stayed where they were just crouching while two guys at the side desided to stay shooting but missed

also the enemies cant aim AT ALL they need more of a guideline because in the 25 man demo i lost 7 health and had tons of bullets sprayed everywhere but at me (they had the default sci-fi assault rifle)

the entity management was bugging up for me, while ingame i could walk on a corpse and as i started to pass it all of a sudden it disappeared.

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F6 should be like quick save, thats why it uses slot1

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Hi Guys,

V103 is by no means meant to be a bug fixing patch. It merely slightly extends the multi-material handling to allow Model Pack 3 textures to survivde, fixes some very small bugs that just happened to be easy to fix and adds the SAVE/LOAD feature much requested by the community. A proper bug fixing patch will come later.

To use the SAVE/LOAD feature, simply go to BUILD GAME and then click the NEW button to create a new game project. You can then re-specify your levels used in your game and then go and build the executable. This was done so the feature would not mess up your existing projects, but also allow you to easily use the new save/load feature if you wished.

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It works, thanks for the new feature
But there is a problem with some physic objects when loading a savegame.

On these screenshots you can see that the barrels get a kick when loading the level.

Before saving:


And after loading the savegame:
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Thanks Guys it works fine for me

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Pardon me for being dense but exactly what button do you push to save your game?
I got the load game screen but I can't figure out which button to push to save it

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It is F6 for quicksave and F9 for quickload.
Or escape for the save/load menue.
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Quote: "To use the SAVE/LOAD feature, simply go to BUILD GAME and then click the NEW button to create a new game project. You can then re-specify your levels used in your game and then go and build the executable."


That worked for me as well, but there are obviously going to be issues (such as with dynamic objects) that are going to be out of our control.

Is it or could it be possible to make auto-save points in-game and call the "save" automatically. ( like a save zone ) Then we could decide where the save would take place in case we have some area/s that cause issues or are not good save areas?

If we can do that, an auto-save message for a few seconds would be nice.

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FPS Creator 1.03 RC1.exe has bad compression type. I downloaded it with PKZip and it could not be opened.
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Its working great, thanks Lee.

I have found a graphical error, not ingame, but on the exe icon, it has a static line through it.

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Hello,

Well, I have tried to download the update several times now, however it keeps cutting out on me at 1.2 megabytes, or 23% done. Is there any other location where I can download the update?

Thank you.

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if more people are having these problems i will upload to my server?

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Many thanks to you Candles Games, from your link I was able to fully download the patch, and am now in the process of updating. Thanks again.

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Well, I've been able to conduct my first test. I'm impressed.... a lot. I tried it with my latest game (uses all new items and segments, every thing textured by me) and it runs smooth. That's a great relieve for sure, since with patch v1.01 & 1.02 it hardly did run anymore.

But most impressed I'm with the saving and loading. It works and even looks good. So my first impression about this patch is very positive, but I'm not done testing yet

Here's already the first request..... AUTOSAVE! When you walk through a trigger it autosaves the game.

Also the loading/saving items have not been edit to the build game options so we can edit them (choose which pictures and positions we want), I'm assuming this will happen in the final version? I've located all of the items already, so I can customize it, but doing it throught the build game options will be much easier. flexible and quicker.

Lee, thank you so much for working on these great features, I'm wishing you much luck in also being able to speed up FPSC which failed in the previous patches.

Next patch suggestion..... pump up the framerate to at least 50fps without me needing to buy a new pc to achieve that kind of speed

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Just installed latest update (1.03 RC1) and can report that the speed problem created by the last two updates has been rectified, however my original problem of character entities (aiko, AI, colonalX) losing their textures (post build) and appearing as just black figures has returned.

Anyway, it's getting late, so I'm off to bed and i'll have a proper look at everything tomorrow.

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Quote: "Its working great, thanks Lee.

I have found a graphical error, not ingame, but on the exe icon, it has a static line through it.

Image attached:"


yes! save and load actually works and ive noticed the same graphical error.


And i dnt get framerate problems anymore

stays at 33 fps instead of dropping to like 14 fps!

thank you very much

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I have encountered an error in saving. Here's the situation: I have tnt boxes that blow up if you shoot them. They automatically re-spawn upon them being destroyed. I saved just as the boxes were falling through the air and in motion the boxes on the floor were also in motion. When I loaded my game the box that was falling just hung in the air motionless and the ones on the floor are no longer sensed by the player, I can walk through them. It looks like dynamic physics objects that are in motion during a save get ignored by the engine physics and collision wise upon re-loading a game.

See attached pic. The box in the air just sits there.

Edit: Weird, upon looking at my screenshot, I noticed that the boxes that are behind my see-thru ghost enemies are invisible, but only what's behind the ghost Hmmmmm.

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Thanks TGC!!! I'll defenetly be DLing this asap when I get home
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Quote: "scancodekeypressed="


That's about the same, just use a number like empty's mod. Found it while looking at the setuplevel script.

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Would it be possible for someone to host the file somewhere else... I always seem to have trouble downloading things from Apollo... I get to 1.4 megs and then the download stops... doesn't matter what browser I use it hits 1.4 and errors...

it would be much appreciated...thanks

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AWESOME!!!!!

Now we can save and load!!!!

It works too, i just tested it.

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i installed it,
but when i want to build the game the program doesn't respond.
so now everytime i get into fpsc it doesn't work,it gets up to the bit where it's loading,with the picture with that guy with his mouth open.
Then it doesn't respond from there.

plz i need help

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@Candles

edit

thanks got it to work....

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tj990, restart your computer and try again. Once FPSC gets stuck like that, it means the file FPSCreator.exe exits but the file FPSC-MapEditor.exe is still running in the background when you start FPSC again, you get the hanning application.

If building a game gets stuck like you have, then often you're pointing to a non exsisting map.

Restarting always has solved this problem for me. You can also quit all of the running processes related to FPSC (as I normally do) but restarting is safer.

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Well install the update today after checking the forums and yes the update seems to be working very well.

It does seem to be a lot faster, not tried the save/load feature yet.
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Found 1 bug, nothing important:

You load your project
Go to buiild game
WHen you click on "new" if you type the same name, it will crash.

On v1 it would just overwrite, and on patch 1.01 it would also overwrite, now it crashes.



Really rare, some light entity objects, after load, float/move from their original positions (already reported, twice).


Hard to re-find: if you quick save during a door is opening, when you load, the door will be closed, and it will be a bit hard for it to re-open (click use several times). It happened only 2 times, i tried to re-do to see better the bug around 7 times, like i said, only 2 times happened.

Anyway, it freaking rocks XD

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Well after testing the save feature im finding that any dynamic object move's or floats and happens everytime so far.

But its an awesome update
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I'm not to worried about that, seeing as most of my games use few dynamic entities now, mainly for speed.

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