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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 09:08 Edited at: 20th Apr 2009 09:11
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so this is from now on my model thread where ill probably be posting my future models ^^ alright, lets get to it!

here is a USP iam working on in Gmax (my first thingy in Gmax hooray) i have got the Base mesh covered and will start with details after school, and probably ill start the Smoothing then too

it is standin on 226 Faces as we speak and 228 verts (Quads this is ofc)
C&C appriciated - if u need better pics, just ask!
remember: it is still WiP!




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okey, i managed to start smoothing the handle before school =P so ill get to the rest after, and then it is time fooor Details :3



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If you turn on edged faces, it might help you out! It's kinda of hard to work otherwise . Gmax is made by the same people as 3DSM, so if it's anything alike, right click on the word perspective in the viewport and select edged faces. Also, not sure if this will work, but in Max, alt+x is xray mode. I find that handy sometimes.

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i always use the f3 and f4 keys, f3 toggling wireframe, and f4 toggling edged faces, comes in very handy

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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 15:55
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thanks for the tip, i have it on now ^^


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i have now added a sigth i belive it is called (it is 2 of them on a gun mostly, done with the one closest to u..=P) Pics up soon, just gonna make some more smoothing on the handle =P maybe i should add trigger first =P


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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 16:22
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You're improving, since you're still working on it I won't comment too much but maybe split the top part of the gun into a different object and make it a bit wider/thinner (Whatever it is on a USP. I really don't know guns).


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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 16:28
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Thanks Alucard, i dont rly know how to do that =P


btw everyone: Cut edges/Polys is rly useful O.o XD


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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 16:36 Edited at: 20th Apr 2009 16:53
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small update! i have added the Sight and part of the trigger! =P woho iam getting somewhere=P






btw sorry for double posting anyway: is there any plugins for MS3d or AC3D that can import .Gmax or Plasma (.P3D)? =P


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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 18:41
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Hey lookin good so far. Just a couple of things.

1. You have an unnecessary vertical edge running through all of your model, which i think was caused from symmetry, just remember when you are no longer using symmetry to remove it and save a lot of polys

2. You seem to have a lot of edges that are not necessary, try and get rid of them by using backspace, and save a lot of polys too, it may sound picky but it will help in the fututre

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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 18:48
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at ur first comment: that one is mostly used for Smoothing it up later=P as i said: i aint realy done with smoothing yet=P

the second one i can agree with, that ill fix up later=P


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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 19:25 Edited at: 20th Apr 2009 19:34
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another update! most of the smoothing is done and ive added some more details to it=P






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508 Quads=P


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Looking better man, keep it going

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now it is sorrta done, i dunno what else to make on it XD any ideas from u?








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All i can say now is that there are some shading errors, probably caused by crossing verts or edges, sometimes all i have to do is delete that face and reinsert it.

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i cant see no Shading Errors? =P


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The working parts (at the top), where it meets with the rest of the gun, it is wonky and lop-sided, it is supposed to be straight (only a little niggle)
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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 21:19
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u mean the parts on the Attatches pic? well, on the Reference pic they are supposed to look like that =P (check the first pic in the thread)


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I believe he is refering to the slide of the pistol. The seam should be flat front to back, but you have a little dip in it above the grip, where in your reference image it is flat all the way down.
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Posted: 20th Apr 2009 22:30 Edited at: 20th Apr 2009 23:31
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now iam done Texturing too here is the final picture of the model!

btw: sorry for bad quality - the texture is Jpeg and the picture is jpeg^^
C&C still welcome
Polys - Tris = 1332 =P



Edit: btw my next project are gonna be an TmP


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Shawn: can u plz make a picture out of my pic of the model to show me how u mean?


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we cant see the model...

change to a tan background or a light grey or even better, you use Gmax or max right? press 8 and change the ambient light to a nice pale tan colour

heres a simple light set up for gmax along with a stand, its the one am currently using.



am not sure if the light layout will hold in .3ds format though,

speak up if it dosen't

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Here you go.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 06:32 Edited at: 21st Apr 2009 06:42
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now ive fixed the issue i think=P





Either it is me with a very lighted computer or its urs wich is dark O.o


oh and this is my first Box modelled Gun so iam kinnda proud =P


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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 07:03 Edited at: 21st Apr 2009 08:30
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sorry for double posting=P here is what ive come up with on the TmP=P



tell me what u think so far^^

Edit: i know, i have a lot of unnecesary Polys running the handle but i dunno how to get rid of em =P

Update on the TmP!



another update, thought it could be nice with an update before school =P




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USP is okay, but the TMP is, to be honest, way too high poly and not enough detail.

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overkill?

way too many polies will little detail to show for it,
Id honestly recomend starting again,

cb

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as i said: i KNOW about the polys along the handle =P but yes, iam concidering starting agan, but it isnt DONE yet so u cant complain on detail tbh=P


Toasty: thanks about the USP^^


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remaking the TmP now=P aiming for as low polycount as possible=P What do u say now? =P betteR? ofc it is far from done C&C plz




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Your Gamma or Monitor may be out of whack because I think everyone but you is seeing those renders as extremely dark, I can just barely make out any detail in them.
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i got it pretty light but i can see everything Perfectly, nothin's too light nor too dark=P


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double posting agan=P anyway: here is an little update before i go to bed=P






C&C plz? =P


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its still a cut out but its getting better, the chamfers are helping.

Ohh and btw you'v nearly double posted everytime ,lol?

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yes i know i have double posted a lot^^ sorry for that


oh and iam happy to annouce that the TMP is done any C&C on it is appriciated=P now iam just gonna make a nice texture=P





and the texured




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Hey! That's not too bad! Sure, the texture could use work but other than that it's great.

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yes, i know: the texture can absolutly use some work, but iam still a "rookie" at texturing =P but iam getting better with each texture


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Very Nice Quik! You are certainly getting a lot better.



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thanks BiggAdd=P

anyway: u guys got any idea what kinnda weapon i should do now?


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How about the good ole standby, AK47?
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done one in the past=P would be interesting to make a new one=P well, ill get to that later, cuz now iam working on a http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/images/new_shotgun_1a_jpg.jpg i asked my friends what i should do

iam also concidering, to make a package of my models wich i have done in this thread l8r on=P but that ill worry about later.


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i have a question, iam modelling an AK-47 now and i wonder, if u could help me. see the picture.



How? iam happy for any kinnda answer=P


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Use a box Then connect the edges from the top (Straight through the middle twice) Then i would just move some vertexes around to get the overall round feel to it...
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thanks, but i think i got it ill place some well placed cuts here and then and voila! XD


Edit: i've bin working on the AK-47 for some while now, and here is what i've come up with so far (it is far from done)






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That's awesome

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well i think this has inspired me to take on a car can't decide if i want to do a thread the way you are with step by step pictures though....
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After your AK, why not try a Scorpion? http://world.guns.ru/smg/sa61-1.jpg I always found it a interesting gun to model.


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hmm.. that seems to become a challenge to me, Violent!^^ but i might try

and this AK is a challenge to me - i get to use functions ive never used before in Gmax and it is pretty tricky to get good=P and ive just done ONE side so far, ive got 2 pics of it, one of the right side and one of the left so^^ and iam standing at 364 quads so far=P

Azunaki: good to know i've ispired someone acually ive bin thinking about trying a car=P anyway: iam not one hundred about the program iam using yet so..

Edit: so what do u think of the AK so far?


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Update! the AK-47 is now done! any kind of C&C is appriciated gonna work on texture l8r=P








Edit: forgot about wire, will post it l8r
Edit: wire posted


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Looks great ! My only crit is to make the handle wider

Any how, Looks brill.
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u got a point there=P moving to fix the issue^^


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