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s4real
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@Gunn3r : Thanks for your support.

Just a big thankyou to everyone who purchased PBum.

Best s4real

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Marc Steene
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Sent a request. 1.7 sounds good...very good

Migration Discussion Thread: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=142497&b=21
Piracy Discussion Thread:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=142774&b=21
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General Jackson
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I so wish I had money.
are you at all willing to trade for models? Probably not

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Scurvy Lobster
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This is great news guys. I am looking forward to moving Sands of Myth to 1.7.

Since I release betas of my game quite often I won't be applying for a tester position but I hope you have luck finding new dedicated users.

I am also looking forward to Lees release of FPSC v116 since it has all the save/load releases that are killing save games at the moment. I hope the merging af PB and v116 will go smoothly.

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Red Eye
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Pff, i am happy i asked permission to release 1507. And ofcourse while making 1507 i bug reported every bug. So i would like to volunteer for beta testing again.


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Quote: "isnt that from a pack?"


Which pack is that? Sorry to go off topic but would like something like that in my PB game

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s4real
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*UPDATE*

Due to some new issues PBUMv1.7 wont be released today sorry for the delay.

We hope to sort these last few issues out asap.

Best s4real

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Mmmmm even tho I have been in and out of these forums and very busy. I should be able to do a little beta testing here and there and report anything noticeable.

If you believe im not capable to continue beta testing feel free to move my position to someone who is more willing to undergo the testing.

Anyways glad to check back and see progress


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Today was a step forward for us. Doing a lot of reading on the different mods, we decided to purchase Project Blue Mod and sat together watching the videos (including the boxes one). We were very impressed with what we saw and the potential that this mod offers. It is such an inspiration to see this type of effort put into a program, and it has given both Cathy and myself some new ideas and even helped to come up with an additional 3 games to our current 4 in development.

We want to thank both Plystire and s4real for all the effort and hard work (and anyone else we have not met or missed). We will enjoy this and hopefully can produce some good games with it in the core. It's the level of dedication and professionalism that you and so many others portray that make it so enjoyable to be a part of the community.

Cheers to you.

Mike and Cathy
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Thank you very much for the kind words, Mike and Cathy! I really hope you enjoy the project and I would love to see what you can accomplish with it. If there are any issues you encounter with the Mod, don't hesitate to contact s4real or myself or post here about it. We'll be sure to offer any support we can.


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Hi Chaps,

Any news on release date for 1.7? Not meaning to chase, just curious

Thanks,

Steve

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@Plystire

I got Project Blue from S4, will I still be liable for updates? I can help out with beta testing whenever you want me to...

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About The Jump Bug....It Only Occurs When I Uncap The Framrate (press X during Test) If It's set to Normal (Capped at 60FPS) Then Its Gone...Until I Uncap It again...Guess it wasn't too seriuos after all...So Yeah i fixed it...

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@NewKlear: We going threw some final beta testing so it wont be long now.

4125 : Glad you sorted out that problem.

Best s4real

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So, it's about 25 U.S. dollars? It's a bit expensive, but I might still purchase this. So, so I e-mail you, and you e-mail me back or something? Because it would be easier if the purchase form worked, like PayPal or something, because then I would definitely buy it. I've never bought anything via e-mail before, that's why sorry.

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General Jackson
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I really think 30 bucks is too much, there is no way I could get this.
I could probably if it was 10 or 15.
I mean, I got the bonanza for 30 bucks...

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Project Blue is worth every penny and to be honest we’re getting it cheap. If you were to pay someone for an update like this for FPSC, you would be paying allot more than $30. If you don’t think it is worth it don’t buy it and stop complaining.

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Posted: 24th Oct 2009 04:30 Edited at: 24th Oct 2009 04:31
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For some people that are students or have little income, it may seem like a lot of money to spend. We certainly can understand where some are coming from, being we have 5 kids and they need money for this or that. It's easy for us "older" generation to drop cash on a piece of software, especially those of us with more than one income.

IMO, the cost is a value to us as the purchaser. From what we have read about Project Blue, a lot of detail and effort has gone into this mod. Ply and s4real have done a great service with this project. As far as buying from them via e-mail- if I may say so- there is no worry. Both s4real and Ply conduct the transaction with the utmost respect and professionalism you would expect from any business.

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General Jackson
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Yeah, like blackfox said, I hardly have any money and hardly ever get any.
Maybe when my B-day comes around.
And also, its not neccessarily that I dont think it is WORTH it, its just I dont have the money, and I'm sure many of the other teens here dont either.

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Quote: "and I'm sure many of the other teens here dont either.
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I usually get around ten bucks minimum every week, and at the maximum thirty-five. Dude, honestly, thirty dollars isn't that hard ot get a hold of. Hell, you must get pocket money, right? If your parents are giving you any less than five bucks a week, whack 'em over the head and pester them for more, If you get $5 each week, wait for six weeks and you can get it.

Guys, this is NOT expensive at all. It is in fact, damn frickin' cheap.
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General Jackson
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I dont get an allowance.
We have a big family.
I used to have a paper route, coulda gotten it no problem-o, but my parents needed the money, so now its theres

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Quote: "Hell, you must get pocket money, right?"
I do, it's just that I was a little unsure about buying it via e-mail. I mean, I know others have bought it, like Kraven and the Training Grounds game, but I've just never purchased something through e-mailing.

I've seen it all. Except for myself ever not failing at something.
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You're still going to be using PayPal to make a payment. It's not like you're emailing them cash or something. S4real and Plystire are up-and-up individuals. They aren't going to cheat you.

The mod is dirt cheap for what it offers you. For $25 you are elevating the FPSC platform to compete with the capabilities of much more costly development platforms while maintaining the familiarity and ease of use. Even if you don't script; performance improvements and other enhancements do more for an enjoyable and playable game than spending the same money on a similar priced modelpack.

It boggles my mind to think people are still buying x10 when from less money they could get FPSC Bonanza plus PBUM and have some scratch leftover for the store.

For me, one of the unsung benefits of PBUM is that the test mode games build MUCH faster than stock. It's a welcome time saver.

Keep up the great work guys- looking foreward to 1.7!
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Quote: "Keep up the great work guys- looking foreward to 1.7!"


Thanks! I am too!

Quote: "For me, one of the unsung benefits of PBUM is that the test mode games build MUCH faster than stock. It's a welcome time saver."


It DOES?!? Wow, I never knew that cuz I haven't used the stock engine in so long.


Now, about the "paying through email" thing.. This isn't a scam or anything, and it's completely secure because it does go through PayPal. The reason you need to email S4 is so he can get your main email address (the one you use to email him) and that wayhe'll have it on the record for shooting out future updates. Not everyone uses their main email address for their PayPal account and not everyone would look at the note saying "Please put your main email account in the NOTE section of the form". It's just easier for us this way and makes it a little more streamlined. Sure, you have to wait for him to reply, but you'll have to wait for him to email it out to you anyway, right?


I'm not going to go into why the Mod costs what it does, because 1) I've said it before a few times and 2) if $30 is too much for you then you obviously don't know the value of 2+ years of work.


I'm compiling what should be the last fix for v1.7.... unless my beta testers discover another one at the last second..... again.

So hopefully, the newest update will be out and everyone can enjoy Bloom and Motion Blur, and the clouds will open up and the sun will shine, and all will be right in FPSC-land once more.


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Sweet! If you want it tested, you can shoot me the new beta. I tested one for S4 last night so I'm guessing that was it...

I haven't found any issues with it, so it gets my seal of approval. I can't wait to use this in tandem with Bond's awesome new shader system, that would be the way forward for FPSC!

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Quote: "It DOES?!?"


Yep. It's quite noticeable for me when switching between mod and stock when I test weapons for compatibility. Next time I do it, I'll let you know where the speed is increased. There's one or two sections where stock sort of plods along but the mod will zip through it. I want to say portal building but I'm not certian.
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Quote: "I want to say portal building but I'm not certian."


Whizzes along much faster than stock for me at this bit.

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Well, I'm glad to hear the Mod is performing above my expectations in that area.


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It has been a real help for us Plystire. On Cathy's computer, she was getting 5-12 FPS when running her compiled game in the regular FPSC, but that was because she had integrated video. We bought a video card and her FPS went up to about 30. However, after buying and using the Project Blue Mod, her FPS shot up to 50-60 constant. No lag or anything. The mod is a big help. And the idea of using the "body&legs" was a real cool idea. Of course now we have to get that changed for her Egyptian game as a SWAT body just does not fit.

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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 04:45 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 04:49
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Glad to hear it, BlackFox! Project Blue is capped at ~60fps, though, so you'll have to press (and sometimes hold) X to see what fps your computer is actually capable of achieving. I'd like to hear the results!


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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 05:21 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 05:22
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@ Plystire

I loaded one of Cathy's levels (3 floors) from the Egyptian game she is developing. The FPS shot to 80-89 FPS when pressing the X key. Originally she only got 15 FPS on this level. I loaded another of her levels (5 floors) and it ranged from 75-82 FPS, where originally we never got over 15 FPS. She has a lot of open areas (mainly 5x4 squares per room and there are about 10 of them) and a lot of hallways. She also uses a lot of the Egyptian character statues and only 5 come to life as you get close to them. All her enemies spawn at start.

I loaded a WW2 level (3 floors) from one of my games in development. It stayed between 55-59 FPS. Originally I only would get 20-25 FPS. This is a bunker level with 4 rooms that are open (4x4 squares) and 6 guards. The guards spawn via a trigger as we get close to them and they follow waypoints.

Hopefully that gives you an idea of the improvement this mod has made in our situation. If you want more results, please feel free to add me to MSN or e-mail me anytime and I'd be happy to facilitate the request. Overall, as you can see by the results, we are very happy.

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Wow great results! I'm very happy that it's working so well for you!

I'll put your results down for later tracking.


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I loved the beta of this mod so much I'm buying it right now. Well done S4 and Ply.

BTW I can confirm also that the test game loading finishes faster than stock, I tested a big level with stock then PBUM Demo, and it loads a lot faster!

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Quote: "You're still going to be using PayPal to make a payment. It's not like you're emailing them cash or something. S4real and Plystire are up-and-up individuals. They aren't going to cheat you."


Alright, thanks Errant, was just a little unsure there, I'll definitely buy this after I finish my Blackcloud game.

Thanks to all the makers of PBUM, this is just great, expect an order in maybe the next week or two

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I agree with JimmySlayer and forgot to mention that as well. Our levels are huge, with multiple depths. They do load much faster using PBUM than the stock FPSC. That was another highlight that got us excited. We did not want our customers having to wait or go make coffee and lunch while a level loaded

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I just noticed sth can any one confirm this.. win zones fade out disappeared, it's just a blank black screen that appears out of no where, any idea why?

n btw is there a hidden feature of PB mod that acheives huds fade in?

TY..

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I'll look into the winzone thing, Bibo. Thanks for pointing it out.


You can have huds fading at will by using the "hudalpha=X Y" command, where X is the HUD name and Y is the desired alpha value (from 0 to 100). You can achieve a fade in by having the HUD's alpha starting at 0 and increasing it (possibly through variables) until it reaches 100.


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I can confirm the win zones not fading any longer. I don't know if this happened with FPSC v115 update or one of the PB updates.

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*UPDATE*

Well the wait is over V1.7 is now released.

The demo version will be staying as v1.6 demo so to enjoy the new features of v1.7 you will have to purchase it.

Best s4real

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amazing work nice touch with the script pack it has some wonderful stuff..

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simple question, I was going through the scripts and I found a condition (havetarget) in the sentry bot, I've never seen this condition before, I searched CG and PB manual didn't find any, wut does it do?

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Could someone please clairify in a simple way how to set up the full screen shader effect? Even better, post an example of, say, how to set up the bloom shader. Step by step.

thanks.


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@MK83:

A tutorial should have been provided with your download that demonstrates (with pictures even) how to get the Mod.ini file in and what each of the fields does.


@Bibo4PC:

The "havetarget" command is basically checking to see if the entity has a valid target or not. So "havetarget=1" will return true if they have a valid target, while "havetarget=0" will return true if they do not.


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found it! Thanks


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This mod must be the king of all mods.
And Plystire must know the fpsc code better than lee himself.



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Got some issues with 1.7 Final....

1. NVM the sounds thing my center speaker is messed up...

2.Also I Would've guessed that the full screen shaders are buggy....With fog....the Bloom works....without fog....they wont....if i set it to work with my weapons...all i see is a black square in the middle of the screen....

Thats all it would seem....Any Ideas?

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Hi S4 and Ply,
I have found a bug/problem with 1.7 final.
I was testing 1.6 and 1.7 one after the other with the same level for bugs.
In 1.6, the frame rate is capped perfectly, at 51 (I think).
In 1.7, the frame rate is capped at 60, which is so fast that my reloading sounds can't keep up with my reloading animations on all of the Errant AI guns I tested.
This problem is actually quite funny really, because it's probably the first time FPS Creator has managed to run so fast it reverses the problem where sometimes on slow computers the sound is ahead of the animation.
THIS time it's the opposite. It deserves a lol...


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Quote: "Well the wait is over V1.7 is now released."


OMG!! Congrats!
Whenever i read the features list I thought its worth purchasing it.

(i had used the website puchase form to buy PBUMis there something wrong with it?)

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@4125:

Glad your sounds are working now. I'm not sure what is up with the screen shaders there. I'll take a look into toggling fog on and off to see the effects. What is your GPU?


@JimmySlayer:

Wow, that's strange... I've tested MANY weapons at all sorts of framerates, ranging from 20fps to 200+ fps and they all run at the speed they are supposed to because of the timer system we have in place. Can you check other weapons to see if it is a consistent thing or if it is just certain weapons it does it with?

Also, the framerate should be capped at 60 fps, so that's a good thing that you're getting it.


@GraPix:

The form on the website is most likely down due to spamming problems. Please email S4real directly about purchasing and he'll set you up.



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@Plystire All My Specs are in my sig....Its an XFX Nvidia Gefocre 9800GTX+ 512MB

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