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Thraxas
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Posted: 6th Dec 2009 09:53
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Quote: "You obviously don't know the OFLC here in Australia, they refuse to let games have an R rating. "


No it's just the South Australian Attorney General who opposes it. As long as he stays in his position he will oppose the introduction of the rating. The OFLC doesn't have any say in the matter.

Aliens Vs Predator has just been refused classification too. But the creators are refusing to release an edited version.

My imported unedited copy of L4D2 should be arriving tomorrow
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I send UK versions to my Aussie mates, which is a double bonus cause they are cheaper to buy here too

@Bond1: you just made my day with news I will finally be able to buy your zombies, with the added bonus of even more in the works ^_^

I only use this for fun and have no interest in making commercial games ^_^
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wow, this thread's still active?

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Posted: 6th Dec 2009 20:49 Edited at: 7th Dec 2009 04:19
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Quote: "A big zombie model pack, which will also contain the removed store items, will be coming early next year. New zombies will also be included."

YAY! YAaY! That's Greeaaat!
Quote: "I've got other modeling work obligations this month, so I'm shooting for Feb.1, 2010."

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Quote: "My imported unedited copy of L4D2 should be arriving tomorrow"

lol "a date that will live in infamy"
Quote: "wow, this thread's still active?"

I imagine it will be until February.

@Bond1
I am looking forward to your next model pack Bond, as always.
Let me know if you want to sell exclusive rights to any of the models the ESRB shoots down or ones that get rejected for whatever reason by clients (canceled projects).
I have no problem using them for my projects that are self rated, and I love all of your wok.
So, if the models can't be marketed through the normal channels, then don't let that force them into lying around and going to waste.

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So, for us who have already bought, do we need to re-buy this entire pack to get the new ones?

And it's been over 1 week, Mr. Bond. Or even 3. Or 4.

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I still am baffled why gory games like Half-Life, L4D, Doom, etc. were never 'removed' from stores.

Does that make any sense? And all of bond's zombies don't have any gore (just very slight blood every now and then)...

Why, just why?

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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 02:47
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Quote: "So, for us who have already bought, do we need to re-buy this entire pack to get the new ones?"

I'd imagine you would, since it's a model pack, not seperate models.

@conjured: Again with the giant post... I think Nickeydude, Thraxas, and every other mod, even Cosmic Prophet and Bond1 will ban you.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 03:12
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Quote: "Woah, woah, woah, let's not get off track here. TGC has no say in this "path", it's not like it's an option. ESRB are the ones cracking down here. TGC is doing all they can to comply, including putting up the initial fees."



Cracking down? How is that possible?

This a quote directly from the ESRB website:

"The rating system is voluntary, although virtually all games that are sold at retail in the U.S. and Canada are rated by the ESRB. Many retailers, including most major chains, have policies to only stock or sell games that carry an ESRB rating, and most console manufacturers will only permit games that have been rated by ESRB to be published for their platforms."


http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#1


So they have no jurisdiction or legal authority whatsoever since they are a voluntary service provider.

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Conjured Entertainment
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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 04:32 Edited at: 7th Dec 2009 04:41
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Quote: "@conjured: Again with the giant post... I think Nickeydude, Thraxas, and every other mod, even Cosmic Prophet and Bond1 will ban you."

Well, then they can tell me if it is too long.
I took out some of the blank lines, which I use to separate things so old people can read it better and to separate thoughts.

I'm not the only one who "lol"s at other peoples comments.
I know some of that is just horsing around, but there was a purpose to the post.
Unless you want a spearate post for every comment, then you should be glad I say everything in the same post.

Quote: "So they have no jurisdiction or legal authority whatsoever since they are a voluntary service provider."

This is the part of the quotes that matters most...
Quote: "Many retailers, including most major chains, have policies to only stock or sell games that carry an ESRB rating, and most console manufacturers will only permit games that have been rated by ESRB to be published for their platforms."

So, if you have a retail chain that is distributing your boxed product then it becomes required to have it for the developer and not voluntary.
Sure you could say no thanks and forget about the retailer & their requirement, but the idea is to increase sales, not limit your market.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 05:37
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Quote: "Sure you could say no thanks and forget about the retailer & their requirement, but the idea is to increase sales, not limit your market."


Except that this is the Internet age.

What sort of knuckle-dragger purchases FPSC in a brick-and-mortar establishment or retailer other than from TGC themselves? Gee, I mean you don't even really have to even buy the product anymore until your ready to build a game.

I seriously think they limit their audience more by ninnying to ratings boards.
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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 06:02
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Quote: "I send UK versions to my Aussie mates, which is a double bonus cause they are cheaper to buy here too"


will you send me a copy?



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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 11:35 Edited at: 7th Dec 2009 11:36
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@Dolphin Lover - No :p

Quote: "Errant AI wrote: I seriously think they limit their audience more by ninnying to ratings boards. "


ditto

I only use this for fun and have no interest in making commercial games ^_^
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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 14:05 Edited at: 7th Dec 2009 14:05
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Eh? It's not the length of posts that concerns us, it's the content.

"Keep it clean, and we won't scream."



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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 15:23
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Quote: "What sort of knuckle-dragger purchases FPSC in a brick-and-mortar establishment or retailer other than from TGC themselves?"


I bought a boxed version in J&R Electronics in New York City.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 15:58 Edited at: 7th Dec 2009 15:58
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At the last TGC convention, someone from TGC gave a history of the company, saying that they have been fortunate enough to be a profitable company for all 10 years of operation.

So they must know what they're doing.

In order for FPSC to survive and grow, it needs to be profitable. If obtaining ESRB ratings is necessary for this, than I'm all for it.

For all we know, online sales of FPSC could just be a small piece of the pie, perhaps they are selling bulk licenses to schools and workshops that want an ESRB rating. All we can do on a public forum is speculate. I trust that it's something that is necessary for FPSC to thrive.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 17:16 Edited at: 7th Dec 2009 17:19
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Quote: "I bought a boxed version in J&R Electronics in New York City."


ASTEK, no offense intended towards you or others who have bought it in-store some years ago- prior to FPSC Free or the more recent bonanza deals.

Quote: "For all we know, online sales of FPSC could just be a small piece of the pie, perhaps they are selling bulk licenses to schools and workshops that want an ESRB rating."


I haven't exactly seen much evidence to support that though I know they do make such sales from time to time. You'd think if that were the case we'd see at least a few people say "Hey, I'm using this in such and such workshop, etc." Do we really see any of that? Nowadays it would seem like Unity or UDK would make for more robust and cost-effective teaching platforms unless it's like a one week section or something.

IMO, the best avenue for FPSC growth and profit would be to drop in-store sales completely and use the distribution budget for marketing of the online sales while maintaining the "crack dealer" business model which is FPSC Free Edition and focusing on making money from expansion modules and media. With boxed v1, there remains the possibility of people who never upgrade and think "wow unimpressive" and don't give it a second look or never become aware of the store or model packs. By limiting things to online sales/distribution, the customer is immediately drawn into the upgrade web and temped by all the cool addons. Not only that but one of the most powerful aspects of the product is the community itself.

If I had to guess, I'd say that iPhone apps are becoming the big moneymaker for TGC. I'd also guess (looking at what Airslide posted) that the ESRB issue isn't about FPSC much at all but in maintaining relationships with them for future (non-FPSC) products. FPSC has become collateral damage, so to speak.
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When I was last using RealmCrafter that never carried any ESRB logo and that was (and still is) used in many schools on a bulk license.

In the end any engine that can use custom media can be as violent and bloody, or as XXX as the media you use. I would have thought an ESRB stamp stating contains intense violence and partial nudity etc would tend to put schools off more than attract them ??

I only use this for fun and have no interest in making commercial games ^_^
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Posted: 7th Dec 2009 22:25
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Quote: "I'd say that iPhone apps are becoming the big moneymaker for TGC."


It does seem that way, doesn't it? It'd be nice if they made a load of money on the iPhone apps, then used the funds to actually fix FPSC.

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Sorry about my post, I was just joking

I think Bond1 has a point. Another thing, I think we should lock this thread because Bond1's making a zombie pack, so there's no need to argue over ESRB.

@Nickeydude: What did you do to your avatar!!??

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He Christmasified it
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Posted: 8th Dec 2009 14:38 Edited at: 10th Dec 2009 05:53
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Quote: "ASTEK, no offense intended towards you or others who have bought it in-store some years ago- prior to FPSC Free or the more recent bonanza deals."


Not taken. I was just pointing it out that people can get it at any
time by just seeing it and never knowing it was avaliable online.
And also, the software was already rated by the ESRB.
It had an M rating for blood, violence, and partial nudity I
think but the last one is just because of that corpse model. lol
But yeah, they already been through the ESRB since they started.
I'm just surprised that they're making the store content follow
as well. The ESRB doesn't loom over turbosquid.

Also, I'm still able to download Bond's zombies.
I don't know if that's irregular or not but I do own a good bit
of them so... maybe that is why?

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Quote: "The ESRB doesn't loom over turbosquid.
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TGC paid the ESRB to loom over them.In order to sell anything like FPSC they have to have an ESRB rating or most stores won't carry it.
That doesn't mean I'm happy about it either.Like some have said...I'm glad I bought what zombies I could while they were still on sale.
It is truly sad that top notch work like Bond's got pulled along with some other good stuff.I do hope TGC comes up with a good solution to this.
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Yes, the game publisher or developer has to send in gameplay, videos, pics, etc. of the worst possible content in their game in order for ESRB to rate it. So, technically, TGC, sent stuff to ESRB, and they rated it. All I can say

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Sorry for bumping this, but... Does this mean that now if I make a gory game, the ESRB ducks will come and do something to it? Or if I make gory models and release them here? If so, that's just ducked up!

(yeah, I censored some swear words by replacing letters of them with others...)

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Well I guess so. I mean we could always sell them out out another FPSC website right? I do have all of those zombies except for wall zombie and zombie gibs but we could do that?
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Quote: "Does this mean that now if I make a gory game, the ESRB ducks will come and do something to it? "


Nope. TGC went to the ESRB. The ESRB didn't come to TGC. If you don't want your game to be rated by the ESRB, then don't pay them to rate it for you.

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Phew. That's a good thing to hear...

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Quote: "What sort of knuckle-dragger purchases FPSC in a brick-and-mortar establishment or retailer other than from TGC themselves? Gee, I mean you don't even really have to even buy the product anymore until your ready to build a game."


Ive never seen it on store shelves in my life, did not know it was even around intell I saw the website 4 years ago, then I remembered it a half year later then bought it.

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You know, before i bought FPSC x10 I took a look at cryengine, I did not see anything about ESRB on there site >.>

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Meh, yeah, but everyone knows Crysis is 'M' or 16+. Maybe EA didn't want a rating.

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The mods should kill this thread, I think we've answered all our questions here.

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Hey guys, if any of you are still looking at this thread, Bond1 just released the "Zombie Apocalypse" pack for $20.
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