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FPSC Classic Models and Media / The Metro Theater - Model Pack 38 released today

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TGPEG
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You'll be glad to know I just ordered, and waiting for download approval.

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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 20:01 Edited at: 17th Dec 2009 20:01
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Quote: "Hey Bond1, there is alot of people giving your model packs away for free! is that legal? it's pretty unfair to us who bought it"


Could you email me those links so I can look into it? Please don't post any here.



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Quote: "Hey Bond1, there is alot of people giving your model packs away for free! is that legal?"


Of course it's not legal, and you should forward the info to bond1 via email so he can deal with it. You should also probably not be on those those websites.

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Just ordered! I'm looking forward on using this! And the 2 other packs I ordered with this!!!


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For info,
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100 integrated graphics on my laptop runs these shaders fine,this card even supports shader model 3.0
It just scrapes through, but for building/testing it does the job you couldn't PLAY games on it though but as I say its fine with all these shaders, I would just build areas test, then remove shaders till final build, maybe a bit tedious but I have no intentions of using the fully built level that comes with this anyway, I reckon with optimal use many good things can still be done with it. I wont be letting this stop me from buying this pack till I can buy me a new comp, stuck with this cos I am so far from home .
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General Jackson
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I have a problem, if there is one of those see through doors, and you have dynamic entites in the next room, they are invisible until you open the door
Also sometimes the water fall will cut up the dynamic entities, if you dont know what I mean I will provide a video

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Quote: "I have a problem, if there is one of those see through doors, and you have dynamic entites in the next room, they are invisible until you open the door"



This is not a problem with FPSC or the pack itself. That is a directx 9 "sorting order" issue (supposedtly solved with directx 11).

The fix: Place transparent doors and water in your level LAST, before placing all other dynamic entities. This is how I did the showcase level. If you make a mistake and place more entities down after placing the doors, then delete the doors and rebuild your game. This will reset the "sorting order".

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General Jackson
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I see, thanks

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EDIT: never mind!

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Hi bond1

Any idea when the model pack 22 character shader based on this new technology will be ready?
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Posted: 20th Dec 2009 09:29
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I'll try and get it together sometime this week. I'll then ask TGC to officially roll it into the pack, I'm guessing they are going to break for the holidays any day now. So it might be the around the first of the year.

Thanks for reminding me, I've got about 3 different projects I'm working on right now!

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Oh! It's ready to be downloaded!!!! But cannot use before christmas...


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Quote: "Oh! It's ready to be downloaded!!!! But cannot use before christmas..."


Haha, the anticipation! I really love hearing stuff like this - I hope you enjoy your Christmas present!

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hey bond, did you get the e-mail?

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I know the feeling, Metal Devil. I got Torchlight on Steam as an early gift, but I promised myself not to play it before christmas.

I downloaded the mp-map to see how the shaders worked, and I will definitely buy this model pack as soon as I can. You did an amazing job, bond.
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Quote: "- I hope you enjoy your Christmas present!"

I have a feeling I will...


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@bond1

I noticed if I'm using a segment with the segment shader applied and place a dynamic light in the room with light2.fpi (flashing)it doesn't show up on the segment surfaces.

If I'm using an entity with a shader applied and dynamic light with light2.fpi script, the entity will take on the dynamic light colour if in range but doesn't show the light flashing on it.

I'd appreciate any information you can provide on this.
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General Jackson
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I am a true nerd.
Do you know what I have been doing?
Looking at all sorts of real life objects to 'see the shaders'

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getting the pack for Christmas, cant wait !!!

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God, I can't wait for christmas! Why did I promise to do so! But it will be worth it in the christmas then. I think this is the best 20 I've ever spent.


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@Metal Devil123

you mean $30 right?

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No, I mean 20€.


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ohh, right,lol

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Posted: 22nd Dec 2009 01:32 Edited at: 22nd Dec 2009 01:34
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Quote: "I noticed if I'm using a segment with the segment shader applied and place a dynamic light in the room with light2.fpi (flashing)it doesn't show up on the segment surfaces."


FPSC doesn't pass all dynamic light information to the shader system, this is a known issue and Lee said it is on his list of future fixes. He seemed to really like this model pack so I'm confident it'll be fixed at some point.


For now, if the flickering light is essential for your game, you'll need to use it on a segment that does not use shaders. Just make a duplicate fps file and take out the shader line.

Ahh, the give and take of FPSC

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Thanks for the info Bond1

This model pack definately keeps on giving!

It'll be great when Lee implements the fix but the workaround will be just fine for now.
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Has anyone got shots of other segments using this shader, no offense to Bond's artwork, but I wanna see how well other segments accept it. Also, I heard it uses the Viewport as a light source, does this mean things light up as the player looks at them?

http://dystopiawipb.blogspot.com/
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Quote: "does this mean things light up as the player looks at them?"


No, specularity (shininess) is calculated based on player eye position for segments. So the shininess of a segment is reflected back at the player as if the lightsource was coming from the player. Things don't actually light up as you look at them - this is purely a specularity calculation, not a diffuse lighting calculation.

Dynamic entities pull lighting direction directly from the lights you place in FPSC.

Is there a particular segment of yours you would like to see "shaderized"? Email it to me and I'll post some screens.

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Sorry, you must hate me (or not), but I activated this pack! It is awesome! I never had so much fun just looking into the mirror!


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Ah right, I know how specularity works, but I thought you'd turned the player into a light source, rather than just using its coordinates to calculate the specular...

I was just wondering how it'd look on stock segments, as they're the ones that come "shader ready"...

http://dystopiawipb.blogspot.com/
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Quote: "I was just wondering how it'd look on stock segments, as they're the ones that come "shader ready"..."


I'm guessing "out of the box" they'll look pretty horrible, since they were textured in a completely different way for a completely different set of shaders. Although I'm working on a few of them for Lee to see if they can be "revamped" for my shaders.

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Quote: "Looking at all sorts of real life objects to 'see the shaders'"

i have done it too.

I wish i could aford it, I might get it for christmas tho.

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I have to agree, you never notice stuff like refraction and specularity until someone actually points it out to you...

http://dystopiawipb.blogspot.com/
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Quote: "I have to agree, you never notice stuff like refraction and specularity until someone actually points it out to you..."

Amen...but stuff would be real bland without it.

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This pack is very good, but we still need normal mapping on segments to be able to really show off specularity and give X10 a run for its money.
I have segments in x10 and in x9 and x10 beats x9 hands down because of the normal mapping on segments.
IMO

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wow that model pack is very good i am going to get it""

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Quote: "@bond1

I noticed if I'm using a segment with the segment shader applied and place a dynamic light in the room with light2.fpi (flashing)it doesn't show up on the segment surfaces.

If I'm using an entity with a shader applied and dynamic light with light2.fpi script, the entity will take on the dynamic light colour if in range but doesn't show the light flashing on it.

I'd appreciate any information you can provide on this. "


Yep, same here... Any help?

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Already answered this question a few posts above.

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Saw it, sorry

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hi
I create a segment, and i use bond1 lobby wall shader but the shader not working on the segment.

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Jeez, I can't stop watching the teaser trailer, lol! This pack will really come in handy for me... Good work Bond!

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@proart,

You need the following textures for the shader to work:

(yourtex)_D.dds
(yourtex)_D2.dds
(yourtex)_I.dds (<-which is basically a greyscale version of the texture)

Cheers

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Not I, but S

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So get this.

I had the pack working fine, water and all. But, today, I got a 23" HD Monitor for Christmas, and after hooking that up the water (shader still works)slowed down. Like, the animation of the water and puddles looked like the frames per second had been turned down. How can I go about fixing this?

I even tried updating the drivers, and the weird thing is, even the water in X10 isn't working either. It's experiencing the same "slow frame rate" even though the game itself is fine.

I tried uploading a vid but I'm experiencing an error.

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Whooohooo !!! Got the pack today, its really good

Nice work Bond1

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Quote: "Not I, but S"


It is I. If you do a search in the Metro texturebank folder for _S, no segment textures come up...

At first I thought it was _S, but that was my problem when I made a custom segment. I then replaced the _S with _I and it worked. I also checked the shader file to veryify

Merry Christmas,

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EDIT: Sorry, uploaded wrong pic...

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Oh, your talking about segments, sorry, havent looked at those.
I know S works fine for entities

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nice and cool
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Hey PW Productions I make a 3 textures for a segment but the shader not working :S I create a segment with s3d lite

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3719/bug1lg.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6522/bug2oi.jpg
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I really need this pack for a game, but the game is in x10. Is there a way to open an x10 game when an x9 level is finished?

> Open x9 game > Play > Finish > Auto Close > Auto Open x10 game?

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@bond1, I finally got my new computer setup and everything from the old computer installed on it. And I finally got the chance to mess around with this model pack a little bit earlier today, and threw together a small level.

My GTS 250 ran your showcase map at around 60FPS with V1.16 (no mod installed), full shader effects, and dynamic lighting. I believe V1.16 is capped at 60FPS, because it seemed like my computer wanted to do more.

Anyway, the new shaders were everything I was hoping they would be. I'm very glad that I made the decision to upgrade to a more up-to-date computer and take advantage of these shaders for the new year. Now, I'm anxious to see how I can use these new effects with my own models

Here are a few screenshots of a dark hallway I threw together in a few minutes. Nothing special, but I figure screenshots are always a good thing, right?





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