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3 Dimensional Chat / 3D Compo: Stone Mason's Apprentice

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Ortu
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just a small update, changed the IOR on the water, looks much better particularly on the falling streams, fixed the texture stretching, and upped the emissive values on the flames.

Also began detailing the eyes and mouth of the male statue it's still kind of blocky and plain so not totally happy with it, but it's coming along. I'm going to add either a fern or low palm in the middle distance just behind the fountain on the right so that the eye is drawn from sun to statuary to greenery across the scene.




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Posted: 16th May 2010 15:47
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The Crazy@

Yeah, I hand painted the texture for the gargoyle and the backdrop as well.

Thanks
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Ortu, way cool scene, but I do have some crits on the water that sort of stick out for me. I think there should be more noise in the streams coming from the middle. For example I imaging irregular droplets falling out not as far as the main stream. Also, for the water coming out of the vase, it starts out thick, and kind of ends up really thin. I think it should be the other way around. Gravity will pull water down and spread it out. Grr it's hard to explain what I'm saying I hope you understand. Otherwise I could draw a diagram if it's confusing.

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Posted: 16th May 2010 23:47
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this should give a good idea of what i think he means.

i must say good model ortu but i think the water is far to flat

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hi Ortu water now looks GREAAAAAAAT!!...
"but i think the water is far to flat" mmm.. is very simply fix that, only add turbulence in this surface..



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Ortu
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Posted: 17th May 2010 09:36
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Thanks for the crits guys they really help push me to do things the right way and not just the easy way ha!

The water currently does have a normal map applied, which shows pretty well in the larger rendering but gets lost in this size. I'll try to rough it up a bit and I've been playing around with some concentric rippling where the streams splash down but haven't gotten results that I've been happy with yet.

As far as the streams coming down go, I know what you're saying... I'd originally intended to set up particles for misting and run fluid simulation for the water but took the quick easy way and just modeled it as I wasn't sure how much time I could put into this.

I didn't want endless tweaking of something like that to prevent me from finishing the entry this time. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't fit it in for the compo, I think I'll continue work on it afterward because I'd really like to get this scene looking top notch one way or another.


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Yeah, it is a stone competition haha. You mention mist, I think that'd be awesome to see. Or like steam because the water is hot for some reason haha.
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Posted: 21st May 2010 02:21
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Quote: " because the water is hot for some reason "

lol, i can see it now, some drunk party guys jump in there half naked and get scolded, XD. idk why but when you said that i thought of the hangover at the end with the camera.

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Posted: 22nd May 2010 12:22 Edited at: 22nd May 2010 12:36
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Ok, I think this is going to be done, unless anyone sees any major errors. I roughed up both the streams and the pools, added individual droplets falling with the streams, and added the small palms.

edit: hmm just noticed that some of the flames aren't emitting properly. I'll change them to match the brighter ones again and re-render the scene tomorrow.




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Well, I still think that there should be some splah where the streams hit the water. But other than that the flames look awesome ad the overall scene is very good.

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Hi Otru i see you add small palms.. add more of them..
look great..
(Nice water efx ;O)
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Unfortunately I don't think I'm going to have any more time to work on this before it ends so this will be my final entry.

I added some splashing (could use some refinement) and ripples, tweaked the palms and the pool surface a little.

Being the final, I rendered this one full size so rather than stretching out the board, here's the link:

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8739/fountain6.jpg


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Very nice job Ortu.
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Posted: 23rd May 2010 12:59
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Thats a whole lot to compete with

Great job!


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Posted: 23rd May 2010 21:51
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Thanks, It's been a good compo with a lot of good showing from everyone. Looking forward to seeing how this all finishes up.

I liked the stone texture on Mooney's heads a lot.


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Yah, unfortunately my plasma screen blew out on me this week..well, more like melted and turned black. My video card only has a hdmi output too, so I can't hook up an old crt I have laying around...so I'm fracked till I buy a new screen.

So I'll have to go with this as my final entry. I was building a scene, but never got a chance to finish the textures and render the scene.

Final Entry:


Good luck to everyone!


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Just a few more days left in the compo, get your final entries in now!

This is gonna be a tough compo to judge..

Good luck to all, Cheers!

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Josh, i managed to get an extension that converts newer connections to fit old CRT monitors, but why is it only HDMI that you have?

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Posted: 24th May 2010 21:35
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It's a Radeon 5800 HD card..and for some reason only has a HDMI output. I have an on-board card, but that would require me to give up my uber-leet graphics...


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Posted: 24th May 2010 21:52 Edited at: 24th May 2010 21:53
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Well I redid it and it came out a little better. But I still am not to happy with the larger stones all over. But due to time I'll start to texture it. Heck I'll try and make it for FPSC.

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well here is my final render.

i decided to make it an Egyptian throne with the bast cat as decor to it. i don't have time to finish a full scene for it unfortunately.

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well its the final day, still can't decide who'll win this one

zbrush 3D model thread:http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=166698&b=3
pixologic thread:http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=86900
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Posted: 26th May 2010 13:26
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Yuppers, it's the final day, tomorrow morning I'll gather all the entries for voting. You are not making it easy for us judges.

Get your last minute entries in now, there is still time.

Cheers!

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Well heres mine;



I left the kid out since i know i wont finish in time. Well it was fun ^_^ Ill be uploading all the gear as a Dlc in the model bank, ill seperate it all and throw that guy in while im at it.

Resized, fullsize in Dl


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Posted: 26th May 2010 16:49 Edited at: 27th May 2010 22:42
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I think I'll stick a fork in this one and call it done.

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lost track of time on this one ,so will have to call this my entry oh well maybe next time .good luck all.



cheers henry

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out of courtesy if you guys post a pic above 1000 could you upload it so you have to click the view button to see it.

i'll have a new final render up in a little while. i decided to make a few little changes to the bast cats. and the shadows.

*edit*

alright so here is my real final render. definitely like this one far more then the last render.

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All right, I grabbed all the entries, and will set up the judging thread in the mods lounge, the results should be in the newsletter, good luck to all the entrants. This is gonna be a tough one to judge.

Note: I have stated several times 640x480 is more than big enough to render your entries. If you want to showcase 'details' make separate renders of the 'details'. There is nothing wrong with posting multiple renderings. Like the 'beauty shot' and then some different angles. This would help in deciding 'best models'. Especially if you don't want to upload the model for us to examine.

Cheers!

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Well it's good to know the rules for the next one. I haven't done one of these in a long time.
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Sorry about that, i normally resize in photobucket, but the site was in for maintinence when i went to upload, ill reduce it now ^_^


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Sorry I didn't jump into this one. I started, but I got sidetracked. Everyone's entries are great and I loved watching the progress of each one grow into its final version. Good luck to everyone!

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the 640x480 size is more of a 'courtesy' than a rule. oversized pics are a pet peeve of mine. If you want to post an oversized pic, just make it a URL 'link' instead of using the [ img] [ /img] tags.

Cheers!

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I thought I'd re-post my entry.


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Hmm..640x48? How many sticky notes do you have on your monitor that only allow you to view images of that size? j/k Or maybe that's just me, I think at last count I had about 30+...should really get a dry erase board or something.

Good luck everyone, a lot of great entry's.


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good luck to every one.

i can't wait to see what the next comp is. for some reason ive been in a modeling mood recently...

i should really get to posting some stuff up in my 3D thread, since i asked david to unlock it and everything...

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Wow, there is some really good working going on in here. Good job everyone!

I thought I would stop buy and drop off a link I remember reading a while ago. It's the making of the Wolf's Lair, one of Hitler's Headquarters. This guy modeled the front of it, and it's really well done.

http://www.3dtotal.com/team/Tutorials/making_wolfsschanze/wolf_01.php

The gif on page two might be interesting to some. The final result is picture perfect.

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@sid: how would you do that in MAX!? O.o amazing

will be very exciting to see the end result of this compo for sure!


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that is rather impressive.

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Congratulations to the winners, it was a tough one to Judge.

Cheers!

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Uh, could somebody please tell me where the winners of the contest are posted?

And gratz to the winners.

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Iso: Newsletter.

Gratz to everyone, a lot of great entry's. Can't wait to start the next compo!


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well done guys

cheers henry

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thanks guys! nice work to all. the next one looks good!


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well done Ortu...



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good job to the winners.

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