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Indian Homie G
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Quote: " or do you mean you read it VERY thoroughly"


Yep, very thoroughly. Cant afford another C

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I got this Englisch teacher that's a pain in the ass too, she talks so much! like we're making a test and she's still talking, she just can't shut the hell up.

can you kill this one for me ?



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thats a point...how much is hire?

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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so when will english pupils get to study GOOD books? like the hitch hikers guide, red dwarf, or some grant naylor/doug naylor, or something else with fantasy and philosophy and stuff? the kind of stuff that makes kids WANT to keep reading.

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Reading the Hitchhikers guide would be great.

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El_Goorf, I don't think it's only english pupils. when I had to read books for school, I also found them boring. The books that I did read for myself were always much better.
But sometimes we had to analyze a good book, but then we only got one page of it to analyze when we had to analyze whole books, it was mostly very annoying

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We had to read 'the Catcher in the Rye', to be honest I liked the book , exept the fact that we had to do all these assignments.



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Teh Go0rfmeister
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agreed: assignments make reading boring, hence schools actually manage to discourage pupils from reading books rather than encouraging. it also ruins the story, since books are written to entertain and stimulate the brain, not to bore it to death with essays

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Good point, for instance there was this Québecois book we read in grade 4 or 5 called "Aller Retour" execpt the Retour part had an X on it. Fun book, even had 2 entire pages with only the word "maudit" written over and over(maudit is french for damn). And that's my favorite word in french(next to "crote" and "merde"). But we had to disect it, and we even had to skip over the 2 maudit pages! They ruined the book for everyone who didn't read those 2 pages!

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OMG. the test was postponed to tomorrow, but now its on chapters 3-6! AGHAGHAGHAAHGAHAHAHAHRAHRAGHAGHRHAGHR I HATE TIHS DAMN WOMAN. And guess what else we have to do? WE have to invent a chapter 7 for the book (it ends at Ch 6 after all the big events happen), so we have to write a 2-page resolution/ending! OMG! And the day before the test! how do we study!?!?!?!?!?



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you dont MUA HA HA HA HA....i know what its like

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wow. your teacher gives you so much work. and useless work at that. the old "invent an ending" is the oldest, and most pointless, trick in the book.

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sh*t...

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yes invent the ending is pointless but stuff like this isnt:
"Write what Stanhope and thingy really mean in bla bla" - Journey's End, good play
"Write Scene blah from Shakespearean (Elizabethan) English into S.English" - Some S. play

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Posted: 29th Sep 2004 18:23 Edited at: 29th Sep 2004 18:26
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Sorry if this sounds preachy... but uhh... it's true. So listen.

It's become horribly clear that IHG has a bad teacher. It's annoying but true that some people become teachers because they can't think of anything else to do in life, not because they want to teach.

But ... do you know what my advice is? Don't let it bother you. If you're concerned that getting a C will ruin your life, then just rest assured that it won't. ...

For example:

GCSEs (for those not in the know) are the exams that some people on this side of the pond take when they're 16. In retrospect (compared to A-Levels [taken at 18] and Degrees [at 21]) they are the most simple of exams. More importantly, I can demonstrate that GCSE results are not that crucial to your life... I failed GCSE art. Looking back, my high school exams were *very* easy and I failed GCSE art because 1) I should've picked Geography and 2) I was a bit lazy. Now, failing such a subject puts me in the same pot as all the other pricks who chose art just so that they could mess around all day. Correct? Well the difference is that I tried. They didn't.


So, in summary:
Don't for a second think that non-prestine high school exam results will tarnish your life's prospects. If you work hard, that's all that counts. It sounds cheesy, but provided you're not a total moron, then you'll be all set.

*adr removes his "parental" hat and at the same time, jumps down from his high horse.


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Quote: "Write Scene blah from Shakespearean (Elizabethan) English into S.English" - Some S. play"


That's actually a good exercise because it demonstrates understanding of the play. When a character says something like "what light through yonder window breaks", our understanding should be "Eeee... what's going on over there?". Even without translating the play word for word, you should be able to understand (somehow) what's going on.


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that was what i was saying in better english

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the only writing i like doing in english exams is usually the last q when we have to rant about something or give someone some imaginary advice.

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i just thought up another classic ridiculous question - "write an imaginary encounter between <two characters who would never meet in reality due to time periods or geographical restrictions>". as if we're supposed to know what they would say and do, and that doing that would really further our understanding of the books / characters. yeah creativity is nice but that's just off-topic.

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Haha thanks guys. Well inventing an ending was really dumb, but it wasn't too hard, just a pain in the @$$. The test wasnt that bad either. Actually, it was ridulously easy. Not cuz I studied or anything, but it was multiple choice and the choices were so stupid you could have aced it with only like skimming over the book. There were again, a few really detailed questions, but, wasnt too bad. God this teacher is so unpredictable!

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Ok, now I'm mad. What the hell are you're english teachers teaching besides how to despise books. Books are great, they're fun, you can learn a lot from them. But every english teacher I know seems bent on making young people hate reading. That makes me so mad...

And BTW, re: where the english laguage comes from. English is a derivative language, originating from LATIN (Yes latin) since that's what they spoke in Brittania between 100 B.C. and about 1000 A.D. Since the vast majority of English nobility were either Frenchmen or married to someone French, they also adopted a great deal of french into the english language (which is ok, since french itself is a derivative of latin, yes latin again). But the English weren't content with that, no. They made friends with the Germans, and a hundred years later, 30 percent of the english lanugage had become german.

So for the record english is a latin derivative with strong french and german influences.
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so where did latin come from?

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apparently from another base language - like Atlantian (if it existed )

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funny you say that. it'd said that when atlantis died, people went off in 2 groups, one went to become the japanese, and the other went to become the basques (google the "basque country" or "pays basque"). the basque language (euskadi) is said to be the most original language there is, as no other languages have anything similar by means of syntax or vocab. the basques also have their own culture which differs from the french and spanish- (ok so it doesnt differ from the spanish as much as the french)- hence all the bombs and wars for independance etc.

as for the japanese, well, i dont know enough about the japanese, but i admit from what i know of the samauris, ancient/medieval japs had the most aamazing culture ever.

ps: any french/spanish politicians reading this, at least let the basques have their own international football team. all the best french and spanish players (and rugby players for that matter) come from the basque region.

reason being that while france and spain were strict catholic countries, rugby was banned from most areas, except in the basque country since they didnt like the catholics very much...

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latin comes from PIE. no, not the stuff you eat. Proto-Indo-European. a sort of hypothetical protolanguage from which most of the languages across europe, the middle east, and south asia came. there is no written record of it; it is simply a fake language extrapolated from what we know about the indo-european languages and their histories.

english itself is such a mix of different languages that it's kind of hard to say which language is its "parent" language. germanic and romantic languages, the two largest influences on english, are fairly similar, as they both derive from PIE. english word order is part romantic, part germanic. the roots of most english words are pretty equally divided between germanic and romantic languages. not only was there the roman influence in the time of the roman empire, but you'll notice that GB is off the coast of france - meaning you had to know french (or whatever they spoke at the time) if you wanted to cross the channel and talk to anyone. it's also close to germany / northern europe.

from what i understand japanese culture is only different because they followed a pretty strict policy of isolation until.. hell, the 1850s. i believe the first chinese settlements and the first japanese settlements are dated to have appeared at about the same time. two cultures, ultimately related, but so far back that they have little in common today.

euskadi is just weird. i want to know where the hell the basques came from.

oh yeah, apparently hungarian and finnish are two other "lonely" languages, which don't seem to have any relatives.

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well finland was a coun try in scandianavia the vikings didnt invade, so while all the other viking occupied countries were norse-iated (get it?) finland was left to remain how it was since it was what it was. (thats my understanding anyway)

as for hungary- isnt there a kind of austria-hungary language?

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nope, hungary>hungarian, austria>german

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I am half Hungarian, my father tells me Hungarian came from a blending of the laguages of two tribes, the Huns and the Madgar (pronounced Mod-yawr). Both tribes were extremely xenophobic until they got mashed together for reasons of survival. At least that's what Hungarian mythology AHEM... history claims.
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lol

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isnt xenophobia fear of the colour yellow?

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no fear of aliens (foreigners or the kind from outer space )

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i see

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"the Huns and the Madgar"

ahh.... isn't Hungary called something like "Madyargarsk" or something in Hungarian? and i guess that's where we get the name "HUN-gary" too

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madagascar? what? lol

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