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Program Announcements / Newton Game Dynamics WRAPPER v1.30

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 01:08
The new d/load seems to have an updated vehicle physics (NOT the demos) This time, instead of ice driving it just goes realllllly slowly

And no, teh image doesn't show up...

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 10:34 Edited at: 18th Feb 2005 10:35
Thanks for the help, guys! I've been fooling around with Newton for a while now, and the problem I'm having is figuring out a way to make it a part of a game, but not the focus--- know what I mean? The incredible machine is a fun idea, but it would take WAY too long to create. With my luck GarageGames has a patent on the idea anyways and I'd get sued.

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 21:58
Quote: "The new d/load seems to have an updated vehicle physics (NOT the demos) This time, instead of ice driving it just goes realllllly slowly"

oh, ok i'll download it

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 23:43
Hey zircher what did i do ?

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 23:46
@AZP- I saw him tell you in another thread a week ago or so...have you forgotten already?

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Posted: 19th Feb 2005 00:23
huh ? link plz

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Posted: 19th Feb 2005 01:56 Edited at: 19th Feb 2005 06:37
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Just to clarifiy: Because...

1. You could not abide by one simple rule and deliberately broke it multiple times just to piss me off. [You succeeded in that.]
2. Due to work and health issues I don't have the time for chat.
3. You're an imbecile for mentioning this on a public forum and not via e-mail. Thread-jacking is just another of your obnoxious traits.
4. Any or all of the above.
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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=47344&b=19

Jeku EDIT:

@AZP - 5. You revive 4 month old threads with "looks old". One more revival and you will be banned.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=40951&b=8&p=0

Sorry for the post hijack I just don't want to post off-topic in this thread any more

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Posted: 19th Feb 2005 02:45 Edited at: 19th Feb 2005 02:46
Fun and games aside... (Thanks Peter_)

AZP, did the concept of using a limited number of bullet hole objects and re-using that pool of resources sink in?

Resource management, be it polygons, texture memory, sound effects, or the number of active hardware lights is an essential part of game design. This applies to Newton as well. You can control the number of calculations that the physic library has to perform by selectively turning collisions on and off especially those that are no longer within sight of the player. It's all part of fine tuning the game to run at the best speed possible.
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Posted: 19th Feb 2005 04:04
np zircher it was a pleasure

BTW walaber i downloaded Version 131 and it has exactly the kind of vehicle movment i want! thanks for updating it!
(even if you didn't make the physics thanks for updating the wrapper! )

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Posted: 19th Feb 2005 14:04
thank user kjelle, he is now updating the wrapper (as of version 1.31)

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Posted: 20th Feb 2005 03:00
can you repost it please ? i had to leave when you posted it

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2005 05:44
How do you get the wrapper started/find the dlls/manual?

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2005 00:29
Try...
http://walaber.com
http://walaber.proboards23.com/
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2005 09:15
can someone tell me what i did wrong here ? when i shoot the first bullet hole gets replaced.

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2005 23:52
No code fragment, no clue. My guess is that you're immediately recycling your bullet hole instead of incrementing the object ID. Either that or you've blown your if/then/else structure and it automatically clears the bullet hole after you create it.
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Posted: 24th Feb 2005 07:36
here is the code again


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Posted: 25th Feb 2005 00:01 Edited at: 25th Feb 2005 00:06
Sigh. I guess the remarks that I included in my original reply and that you ignored meant nothing to you.

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` in your main variable initialization section place these
` adjust the range as you see fit based on program performance"


You DO NOT place...

firstbullet = 20000
lastbullet = 20200
currentbullet = 20000

... in your game loop. Those statements go near the beginning of your program where you are setting up your program variables. If they are in your main loop (like the shooting routine), they ALWAYS reset your counter and the logic fails.

You need to start thinking about programming and not blindly copy code fragments. You need to understand why things are done and not take things on faith.
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Posted: 25th Feb 2005 21:12
ok, thanx
now when the bullets are erased the game slows dowm

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Posted: 25th Feb 2005 21:33
OK. Remember this?

Quote: "` adjust the range as you see fit based on program performance"


Try a smaller value for lastbullet like 20100 and if that makes an impact.
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Posted: 27th Feb 2005 11:12
okkkkk

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Posted: 7th Mar 2005 20:02 Edited at: 7th Mar 2005 20:03
Anyone else had problems with the Advanced terrain demo that is in the 131 release? It compiles fine if I rem the 2 newton terrain lines.

`col = NDB_NewtonCreateTreeCollision( 1, 1 )
`Body = NDB_NewtonCreateBody( col )

It just runs forever doing nothing seemingly. I let it run for about 11 mins before I gave up and had to endtask it.

[edit] and why does it only use 50% processor?

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Posted: 10th Mar 2005 06:58 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 06:32
I imagine that the advanced terrain are quite polygon hungry. That could be an issue. You also might want to try the unoptimized version of create tree and see how that fairs.
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[update: You might want to try the new update to the wrapper since collision tree optimization is one of things that was improved.]

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 06:30
The Newton SDK has been updated and the wrapper for DBP as well:
http://walaber.com/ndb/NDBv_132.rar

See this link for more info as to what has been fixed/changed:
http://walaber.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=newtnews&action=display&num=1110503070
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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 06:53
Hi Everyone,

Could someone confirm in basic layman (idiot-proof) terms what Newton SDK is and what it might allow me to do within DBPro and what then the Newton DBP Wrapper is and again what that might allow me to do within DBPro... I've seen the Demos and get the general idea - does it intro a series of new dll commands? etc.
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Posted: 22nd Mar 2005 21:32
The Newton Game Dynamics Engine is a free physics add-on written primarily for C++ developers and such.

The Newton Wrapper is the majority of Newton GDE in a DLL form usable by Dark Basic Pro.

This allows the programmer to set properties such as friction and bouyancy as well as apply forces, gravity, and torque. There is a update world command that applies all these forces to the objects you have declared so they can interact with each other in a more realistic manner. Newton also supports relationships such as hinges, ragdolls, and vehicles.
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2005 03:16
@Zircher,

Thanks... will begin to experiment with it...

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