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Okay, the EA and demo editions are out of 3DWS. What do you think of it. Well, we know that terrains are being added, and there will be extra features. What would you like added to 3DWS? Post it here. I hope this can become a sticky for reference.

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Okay, here is what I would like to see in later versions (by the way, thanks for making this a sticky):

Split Polygon Face (for better extruding)
Terrains (Will be implemented)
Paintbrush (I do not think there is this feature, but it would just be for painting part of a texture on a terrain or an object)

That is all I can think of right now.

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You can already split a brush. The other two features are in the works.

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i dont really need the paintbrush, but i would love to see refine back in as well as camera momentum. but as insofar, i dont see any major things that the program needs, it seems to be quite complete

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I was thinking of also adding UV un-mapping to complex objects created. Just for the experienced user. I think it would be a good idea also for when the map is converted to .x format, that there is only one map created and not two.

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UV unmapping?!

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I think he means 'Unwrapping'


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thats wholly unnescessary, get milkshape.

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There seem to be some really bad misconceptions about the program workflow. Please see the workflow thread on this forum.

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Okay, well, I was thinking: Would any "polygon splitting" be possible for future release?

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You can already do that.

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Sorry, never realized that. Okay then, I do not have much to add to it right now, but I have something to ask: Will 3DGS need its own model formats such as cshop had to add models into the map?

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Try the demo! Map meshes can be .x or .gls format, and more formats are being added. There is no native mesh format at all.

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I have the demo, but you cannot save. So, I can save to .x. Okay, so will there be seperate maps for the lights and for the map, or will it be combined into one?

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The .x format does not support multitexturing, so they have to be two separate files.

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Oh, that is alright.

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That's a limitaton with the x format,nothing to do with Josh.
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Would you be able to export to .3ds? I think that would be pretty good for the dbc people. I use dbp though.

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.3ds is rather a crap format, since it doesn't include normals. .x should be fine for DBC.

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Okay then. I will be upgrading soon. I am just raising some money for the product. I will definately be getting the builder edition.

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mouse resize meshes
save with textures to folder
in properties make textplain for scripting

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That is incorrect, mouse resizes brushes. To scale a mesh, open the properties editor and go to the "mesh" tab.

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I would like to see water effects when the product comes out. I think that it would be a nice addition if not being added already.

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The closest to that would be the shader support - but this is a mapping program, and water is handled by the engine. You could simulate it with bump maps or something, though.
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@Josh: Yes I know,but for speed editing I like mouse resize. *.pfb prefabs or brushes works with mouse
@Gamedev: water effects -make plain and write properties in 3DWS for you engine

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The importer is in the works, but what would be cool is if you can export Cartography Shop 4.1 files (backward compatability). If you can do this, you could still use the existing importer for DBP, and the blitz loading code.

Paul.

[EDIT] <rubs chin> Hmmmmmm, interesting.....


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No way, Jose.

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hahahahahah!!!!!!!
Josh since you are in california, can i visit you?

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Okay, will there be any compatibility with the 3d engine that you are making?

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Oh, more compatibility than you can imagine.

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Ooh! That sounds good. What will the engine have in it? Also, can you already put animations in the levels that you make? Like tv that is playing or something?

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You mean an animated texture? Sure.

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That is good. But will there also be support for animated objects like 3d models or such?

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I doubt it - that would be handled in the engine.
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Cool. Also, I have a little prefab creation addon for CShop and 3DWS that I am making, so if you will hang on I will get you some information on it.

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Yes, the engine will support animated models.

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Awesome!

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More education than request here but... while were at it.

It would be very handy to have a mean to center your perspective veiw on your scene. Zoom to object if you will.

Thing are looking real nice though.

Matt

Did yuo konw taht the hmuan biran deos not need crorect seplling to raed udnresntad a seenntce. It jsut needs the fsirt and lsat lteetr to be coerrct. FACT!
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How about the ability to export maps with an additional option to export vis groups as separate objects? For example if you have a world called "house" with vis groups named "kitchen" and "living room" then it would export each of them. Positions should not be reset so If they are loaded in dbpro for example they should be already positioned correctly (instead of them both being positioned at 0,0,0 so they both overlap)

Oh and short cuts for the 3 different mesh editing modes are needed, they seem to have vanished (from the world studio demo at least).. Maybe the ability to customise shortcuts too?
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would it be possible to add import/export of x binary files. also options for normal,specular etc texture files.
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You can already export to .x, and I think that there may be some input support later on.

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Gamedev currently ascii only. i'm hoping for binary aswell.
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I have no plans to support binary .x files.

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Okay then. When will the final version be out? I was going to wait for that to upgrade.

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In CSHOP 4.1 when you hide an object, it is still selected by using edit select all. In worldcraft hidden objects were not selected like this. How does/ will 3D World Studio work in this regard?

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i tried a6 and the level editor lets you put your player models and everything in place in it, does 3dws have this or do the players and weapons , doors and stuff have to be coded to place them in a position?
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Yes, I would like there to be something that would allow you to put them in as seperate entities from the map.

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Yes, the editor does that.

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So you could save those entity points seperate from the map itself?

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Yes! The editor can export an entity list (a text file) containing all point entites in the scene.

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