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FPSC Classic Product Chat / A note about Piracy, and the VBOTB.

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ultraplex
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Posted: 21st Mar 2010 22:08 Edited at: 21st Mar 2010 22:13
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ok keith i have added u to msn for a chat old boy...accept please

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JLMoondog
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Posted: 21st Mar 2010 23:12
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Quote: "I thought mods were surpposed help out members not abuse they power as some do,also i thought in this forum u was entiled to your opinion"


This is a misconception to anyone new reading this thread. Mods never abuse their power, and as you are entitled to your opinion, 90% of the time no one else cares.


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ultraplex
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all i want is a answer to why i was banned 6 times,as u dont recive an email or any-other info on why u was banned,thus enabling mods to ban who they want for whatever reasons,this ani't rocket science just want an answer thats all...

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FredP
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It's not rocket science.When you are banned and try to log in you are informed you were banned and why.
If you didn't bother to read the reason then that is your problem.
We can't take the time to dig through years of info just to find out why you were banned when you should know yourself.
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KeithC
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Quote: "ok keith i have added u to msn for a chat old boy...accept please"

Never got that invite.

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Plystire
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What's with the slew of off-topic posts? In a sticky, no less. ultraplex, please refrain from posting here about this matter. KeithC and FredP both have their emails in plain view, so use them.


Back on topic... were the individuals to which the pirating took place part of this community? Were they banned as well? The only info I've seen on this matter was that TheK pirated the software, banned and no other specifics were made public. If another member was the receiver to the software, perhaps it prudent to name them as well? A heads up, if you will.


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Shadowtroid
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He gave it to someone named Silverwolf, who in turn gave it to someone named Whitewolf PL.

They and there alternate accounts were banned, IIRC.

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starmind 001
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Hey Keith, I sent you an email on some pirated material including Project Blue. Just don't ban me for finding it for you.

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Pride
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As well Keith, I will send you an e-mail regarding some other pirated material.

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KeithC
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Posted: 22nd Mar 2010 04:13
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Got both emails; thankyou.
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were the individuals to which the pirating took place part of this community? Were they banned as well?"


As was mentioned above, all accounts related to this mess were banned.

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Hockeykid
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Quote: "Got both emails; thankyou."


If these were more pirates of Project Blue could you please email me regarding information. As I'll need to take them off of the update list.

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starmind 001
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Hockeykid I forward the email I sent to keith to you. Hope this helps.

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Kill3r7
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The piracy is majority for games and software, I think not for mods like Pb or something, it's free if you decided to buy it then uploads it to the internet and then share the link with a friend, is the fault of the purchaser it not of the seller

Is my opinion

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TerrorNation
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@Kill3r7
What do you mean? Are you saying that it is alright to pirate mods/games made by 3rd party people but not large companies' games?
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Kill3r7
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Quote: "What do you mean? Are you saying that it is alright to pirate mods/games made by 3rd party people but not large companies' games? "


the piracy is for games (much dollars), but mods is not piracy, you can send the link to a friend I think, and is not really piracy

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JLMoondog
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...er you have to pay for most of the FPSC Mods, which means yes, that is piracy. You need slapped.


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TerrorNation
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Piracy is just passing on someone else's copyrighted property without permission. Just like if your Xara mod was not free and someone here sent it around, it is STILL piracy, no matter how large the party being pirated is.
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ZackS28
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Posted: 22nd Mar 2010 22:05
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Quote: "the piracy is for games (much dollars), but mods is not piracy, you can send the link to a friend I think, and is not really piracy "



Wow, that is the kind of sick mentality that piracy starts as. So even though I paid good money for the mod I use now, it is ok for someone else to go pick it up for free somewhere online? And what about the creator? You're basically telling him to f- off because you don't think his work is actually worth the price he put on it. I'm sorry but pirating is pirating, no matter how "much dollars" it cost.

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KeithC
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Posted: 22nd Mar 2010 22:17
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Quote: "the piracy is for games (much dollars), but mods is not piracy, you can send the link to a friend I think, and is not really piracy"
As others have said; if it costs money to own, and someone passes it along for free (or charges for it, without the owner's consent)...it's piracy, plain and simple.

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Johnski
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thanks woolfman!!

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Toasty Fresh
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2010 01:40
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I'll be honest, it bloody sickens me how people pirate models/software from these forums. I'll admit, I have pirated one or two games/software in the past (and those were very petty ones too, as I can't stand having to wait for long downloads, therefore have never pirated a commercial game), but I would NEVER pirate something from a tiny community like this or a program made by some poor bloke sitting in his bedroom (Like FPSC or project blue). Not to mention the models and programs here are dirt-cheap anyway.

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Woolfman
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2010 01:56 Edited at: 23rd Mar 2010 01:58
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Maybe it's a good idea to not talk about stupid things you did in the past. More then likely you will be getting checked on more.
(Edit Post can be a good friend.)

Not a problem. syko games.
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Toasty Fresh
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2010 02:15
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I don't think I'm going to be banned for saying that I've pirated something in the past as 1: There's no solid proof that I did, and 2: It's something that happened a long time ago.

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Woolfman
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Not my point at all. But good luck just the same.
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ultraplex
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2010 19:19 Edited at: 23rd Mar 2010 19:19
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[quote]I'll admit, I have pirated one or two games/software in the past (and those were very petty ones too
haha opps

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Red Eye
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I do think tho, Reputation is a bit more revelant then a ban. So it is better then let him talk, and cry for more, then banning him, if he doesnt change his attitude , it will lead to destorying his reputation, and after that he will feel ashamed of that and recover his situation, as for ultraplex:

"It is better to keep ur mouth shut, and let people think ur a fool, then open it, and remove all doubt!"

Those are my thoughts anyway,

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ultraplex
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[quote]as for ultraplex:

"It is better to keep ur mouth shut, and let people think ur a fool, then open it, and remove all doubt!"
nobody loves me boo hoo

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Red Eye
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Copy Paste mood? ...anyone...

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TerrorNation
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Please don't go off topic.
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Lewis
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@ultraplex,

Reported ^_^

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TerrorNation
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Reported? What did he do?
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General Jackson
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Quote: ""It is better to keep ur mouth shut, and let people think ur a fool, then open it, and remove all doubt!"

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That is a great quote! I really like that.
I must admit theres been times when that should have been directed at me though

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Lewis
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@TerrorNation,

Manipulating people's quotes and changing what they said in those quotes, like 'nobody loves me boo hoo', which is insulting.

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ultraplex
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[quote]@ultraplex,

Reported ^_^

For what??

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ultraplex
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[quote]Manipulating people's quotes and changing what they said in those quotes, like 'nobody loves me boo hoo', which is insulting
ok the boo was @ me,as in "why the attack"

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TerrorNation
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@ Lewis
Quote: "Manipulating people's quotes and changing what they said in those quotes, like 'nobody loves me boo hoo', which is insulting."


Precisely. I think we should get back to the topic and try to ignore anyone trying to start flame or being insulting (reporting has been done, so now we can carry on ).
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ultraplex
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o and what red eye said to me was not instulting to me?
double standards??

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ultraplex
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ah i see the confusion here,i typed in quotes rather than under it.....silly me

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@Toasty:

Normally a confession is all they need.


@ultraplex:

Have you ever thought that maybe it's not that people don't love you, but instead it's your incessant offtopic posts?


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chidem
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@ KeithC - this must have been a really tough decision for you to come to. I'm sure the vast majority of the community supports you in making this difficult decision.

@ Ultraplex - your off topic posting is pretty grating

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TerrorNation
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I would feel the same way about banning a well established member.
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ultraplex
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I'm back from my noob slap....

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KeithC
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Hopefully it's for the last time...this time.

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mickeyb
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I think while your on about Piracy all those who say
i have 3dsm 2009/2010 how can i do this or i can i model
this should prove they did buy the program.
And if they can't should also have a ban .
If Piracy is Piracy then it should cover everything
not just on this forum.


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Quote: "all those who say
i have 3dsm 2009/2010 how can i do this or i can i model
this should prove they did buy the program"


As much fun as that would be, it's not gonna happen.

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I am not going to check and see if each member of these forums paid for everything they have.
Sooner or later the pirates will get caught.
In my opinion it would be an invasion of privacy for us or anybody else to ask if someone bought something or not without a good reason.
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Michael Thompson
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I have always wanted FPS Creator but have been unable to get the full one (i didn't have the money) but i stuck to the demo, and made my levels, holding my head high. Early this year, my friend asked me what i wanted 4 my birthday, in late febuary. I told him i wanted this software, and so he got it for me. not hard right? he also gets he benefit of being one of my testers, and critics. That is the benefit of not pirating.

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I got mine through trial-play with gametap. You need a CC, but it's still free. Also received 750 store points for getting my mini-game in the top 10 in one of TGC's competitions. In the last TGC compo I got a free copy of Advanced Animations plugin for DBP.

If you keep an eye out your bound to get something cheap or free.


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henry ham
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Quote: "all those who say
i have 3dsm 2009/2010 how can i do this or i can i model
this should prove they did buy the program"


great idea but max 11 is out soon & im sure we will have loads of new users of that to

cheers henry

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Quote: "i have 3dsm 2009/2010 how can i do this or i can i model"


Haha I love that...

"hey I just sppent $4000 on some software how do I use it?"

Yeah right


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