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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:06
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Quote: "Although, to be fair, if you don't have vectors, you don't have forces."


I have holes, and holes get full, and when a hole is full of energy the next flow of energy will push it out.

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Pincho Paxton
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Quote: "If there was ANY black hole at the center of the earth, the earth wouldn't be here right now, and there can't be a black hole in the sun because black holes only form when a star dies by collapsing!"


It was already there. Don't forget that the maths is backwards.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:08
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Quote: "It was already there. Don't forget that the maths is backwards."


If it was already there the sun wouldn't have been able to form, genius.


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Yodaman Jer
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And if there was somehow magically a black hole in the sun, light wouldn't be able to escape it and we'd be in the dark. WE'D ALSO BE PULLED INTO THE SUN.

At first, your ideas could have stood up in the scientific community, but now... you'd be laughed straight out of every scientific establishment in existence.

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:12 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:14
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Quote: "And if there was somehow magically a black hole in the sun, light wouldn't be able to escape it and we'd be in the dark. WE'D ALSO BE PULLED INTO THE SUN. "


Nope black holes have exactly the same force as the sun that was there. There is no extra pulling power to a black hole. And that's part of science too. We would stay in exactly the same orbit.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:14 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:17
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Quote: "There is no extra pulling power to a black hole"
wtf

I think this statement is very, very wrong. A black hole has incredible mass, and guess what, that means extra gravity too. In fact, I'm pretty sure that a black hole's incredible gravity is what allows it to exist.
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Yodaman Jer
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Quote: "Nope black holes have exactly the same force as the sun that was there. There is no extra pulling power to a black hole. And that's part of science too."




Pretty sure that's false.

Black holes, regardless of their pulling strength, would still suck up the light and particles in their immediate vicinity, i.e., the sun, the earth and other planets fairly close in orbit.

I wonder if you think we're on the back of a Turtle...

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:15
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Pincho, I think you had a little too many of these


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:16
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Quote: "We would stay in exactly the same orbit."


No, no we would most certainly NOT stay in the same orbit. You're completely blind to science if you really think that has even an ounce of truth behind it.

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rolfy
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Quote: "I wonder if you think we're on the back of a Turtle.."

What....you mean we aren't?...

Awesome! Its one of those threads.
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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:17
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Quote: "Black holes, regardless of their pulling strength, would still suck up the light and particles in their immediate vicinity, i.e., the sun, the earth and other planets fairly close in orbit. "


A black hole is just the same as the sun is now.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:18
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I think you need to go back to school, buddy.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:19
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Quote: "I think you need to go back to school, buddy."
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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:19
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Link to read...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111018111734AAdz7SZ

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:21 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:22
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That's HYPOTHETICAL. It's discussing what would happen IF such an abnormal black hole were to form.

It's not going to happen and it hasn't happened.

Also, if there were two black holes (one in the earth and one in the sun), why haven't they attracted each other yet? Huh? Why is that?

Your taking hypothesis' (several of which appear to be from other people and not your self-named "Pinchoism", so kudos for stealing from others) and passing them as fact. You have no idea what science is.

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:23
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Quote: "Also, if there were two black holes (one in the earth and one in the sun), why haven't they attracted each other yet? Huh? Why is that?"


Because the forces don't change they are the same.

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:25 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:26
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Quote: "Your taking hypothesis' (several of which appear to be from other people and not your self-named "Pinchoism", so kudos for stealing from others) and passing them as fact. You have no idea what science is."


I just though that you believed in science that all. The subject is a common one on science sites. If you don't believe me, or science then you just believe yourself.

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Yodaman Jer
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Quote: "Because the forces don't change they are the same."


THAT CAN'T BE.

If one black hole is smaller than the other they WILL have differing gravitational pulls. This is basic stuff, they teach it in the 3rd grade I'm pretty sure...

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Quote: "If one black hole is smaller than the other they WILL have differing gravitational pulls. This is basic stuff, they teach it in the 3rd grade I'm pretty sure..."


You just read it in my link. Find more links.

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Yodaman Jer
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Quote: "I just though that you believed in science that all. The subject is a common one on science sites."


IT'S A HYPOTHESIS. It's a question designed to stimulate the thinker. Like Schroedinger's Cat.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:29 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:29
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You want some links? Here, lemme start your education over:

http://www.education.com/science-fair/first-grade/physical-science/

Learn the basics, read the proof and reasoning, and come back when you actually know what you're talking about.

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Pincho Paxton
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Quote: "No, no we would most certainly NOT stay in the same orbit. You're completely blind to science if you really think that has even an ounce of truth behind it."


Well you didn't say that your comment was a hypothesis.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:32
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... What?

I'm pretty sure it's been proven that all black holes have differing, enormously strong gravitational pulls, y'know, by people studying them and observing them...

We see black holes because of the particles surrounding them, being sucked into the damn things. IF there was any type of black hole in the sun, we wouldn't be having this stupid argument.

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Quote: "We see black holes because of the particles surrounding them, being sucked into the damn things. IF there was any type of black hole in the sun, we wouldn't be having this stupid argument."


Is that a hypothesis?

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Yodaman Jer
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A hypothesis for us being dead? Nah, just common sense really. Science has shown that any black hole in the immediate vicinity of our planet would kind of kill us. A minor thing, really.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:35
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Quote: "A hypothesis for us being dead? Nah, just common sense really. Science has shown that any black hole in the immediate vicinity of our planet would kind of kill us. A minor thing, really."


I just told you there are hundreds of links that if the sun had a black hole in it the same mass as the sun, nothing would happen to our orbit.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:37 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:38
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And I told you it's a HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. There is no black hole the equal mass of the sun inside of the sun.

Ever hear of hypothetical questions? Like Schroedinger's Cat?

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Black holes are bad. Someone went out and photographed them mating (below) they were never seen again only the camera was found, a bit like Blair Witch really which was bad as well.



Awesome! Its one of those threads.
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Yodaman Jer
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ASSTRONNOMIC PORNOGRAPHY

...See what I did thar?

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Quote: "And I told you it's a HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. There is no black hole the equal mass of the sun inside of the sun. "


So why do you keep saying that it would pull the Earth into it then?

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Oh my!...will I get into trouble for posting that?

Awesome! Its one of those threads.
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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:43
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Quote: "So why do you keep saying that it would pull the Earth into it then?"


What I'm saying is that if there was a black hole in the sun the earth would most certainly be pulled into it. FACT. The sun would also have HAD to collapsed to create the damn thing in the first place. ALSO FACT.


Learn science.

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Uh, what?


They see me coding, they hating. http://indi-indicium.blogspot.co.uk/
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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:46
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Locked thread is unlocked...?

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LOL!!!! nice one Josh.

Awesome! Its one of those threads.
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Yodaman Jer
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I'm thinking I'm getting a slap. I deserve it though.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:47 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:48
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before this gets locked: yodaman, actually... if the sun turned into a blackhole of equal mass, our orbit would be wholly unaffected...
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I'll post more in the posting competition xD

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Yodaman Jer
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Quote: "yodaman, actually... if the sun turned into a blackhole of equal mass, our orbit would be wholly unaffected..."


Wasn't really disputing that, was more disputing the fact that he was passing off a hypothetical question as proof of his theory. It may be unaffected but he was also claiming the hole existed before the sun.

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Yoda, I don't see any grounds for you to be slapped.


They see me coding, they hating. http://indi-indicium.blogspot.co.uk/
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Yodaman Jer
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If I were a moderator I'd slap me.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 05:52 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 05:53
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No ones getting slapped or thread locked..except rolfy, 13.75 ± 0.11 billion year ban for posting Galaxy Porno.

Carry on.

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Yodaman Jer
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Oh. I fell for it.

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Can I come back now?

Awesome! Its one of those threads.
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[b][/b]

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Yodaman Jer
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Bring Einstein with you rolfy, we might need him from beyond.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 06:00 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 06:01
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Why would you get slapped? You did nothing wrong. If anything, you are just defending common sense.

Oh hahah. Galaxy porno
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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 06:02 Edited at: 9th Jul 2012 06:02
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Well I swore a couple of times and called him a liar which could've provoked him, thus why I would've slapped myself.

But I'm done with this thread now! Who wants to come over to my house and play some Minecraft with me? I don't work in the morning and plan to parrtttaaaahhhh it up the hizzle, if get my mizzle.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2012 06:07
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Well then I shall take your position on this argument... Except I don't feel like it.

Pincho, have you found the physics engine yet?
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Quote: "No ones getting slapped or thread locked..except rolfy, 13.75 ± 0.11 billion year ban for posting Galaxy Porno."


At this rate of progress being made, I'd much rather be posting in rolfy's thread.
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