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Rob K
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Quote: "It seems to give me a blank string when there are too many characters. Is there a maximum amount of characters that it can handle?"


Yes, there is a 255 character limit. Increased significantly for next update.

Quote: "Any luck on getting it to work using DGSDK? I remember you were waiting in Mike to get back with you on how it handles strings."


I am still waiting for the SDK update at the moment.


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Whoohoo, roll on the next update
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Hi ya,

Ok, for me browser, I've got IE6, the actual page I get when I click the link is...

http://www.robertknight.me.uk/blue2/site/includes/docs/cmdcreateindex.html

p.s. I think I'll use the tree stuff, but if that doesn't do it for me I'll drop you a cut down.

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Some observations on radio buttons (RB) for anyone that has had difficulty with them - I spent more time trying to figure this out than I care to admit.

The help mentions that you should not make them children of frames. Of the alternates suggested, I prefer the heirarchically simpler making the RBs children of a (sub)panel and making a sibling frame, also child of the panel, to enclose them. The panel should be borderless and the frame alignment should be all client. If you do this in rainbow, the frame will hide the RBs. But compiled you can see them.

It gets a little more difficult if you try and add some "framed" RBs to a complicated interface long after it has evolved away from the initial Rainbow version. The trick here is that the RB and frame locations are now relative to the panel. Here is some sample CreateUI() code:


Hope this helps.

Also I seen mention of a Raibwow 2.0. My BlueGUI v2.01 install leaves me with a Rainbow 1.0. Did my install go awry?

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I have updated the Rainbow "Export DarkBasic Code" function to also export a function for deleting all of the gadgets...

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=48832&b=18

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@LamptonWorm

I have sorted the docs out now.

@freight hopper

I normally setup radio buttons inside a panel which is a child of the frame. This means that as long as the panel is sized to fill the frame, it is easy to add in other radio buttons.

The hierarchy goes something like this:

Frame -> Panel -> RadioButtons

This also makes it easy to have different groups of radiobuttons within the same frame without the user seeing any divides.


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One suggestion I would like to make, for the next release of Blue IDE, could you incorporate the Blue GUI project configuration utility into BlueIDE, because it is a pain to go through the motions of opening it.
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Assuming you are using the latest version (RC4), just place a shortcut to the BlueGUI project creator in the BlueIDE tools folder. Go to Tools > Programs > Open Programs Folder in the IDE. Create a shortcut there and then restart the IDE. It will then be available in the Tools > Programs menu.


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Rainbow update released - get it from the Updates page on the BlueGUI 2 website.

Changes:

=== Version 1.02 ===

- Menus with more than 3 tiers are now exported correctly
- Loading large .gui files now faster (improved setAutoUpdate command in DLL)
- Closing large .gui files now faster
- Creating a new layout after closing a multi-windowed layout no longer causes size-markers to disappear
- Item Editor now displays previous caption when changing an existing item
- Double-click edits existing item instead of Right-click in Item Editor
- Editor now switches between SYNC ON mode when it has keyboard focus, and SYNC OFF mode when the user is working
with another application.
- Added Border property to Window Gadgets - Windows can be set to, Normal, Fixed, ToolWindow (Normal) or ToolWindow (Fixed)
- Gadget items for listboxes, comboboxes and tabs can now be saved, loaded and exported.
- Item Editor can Import and Export lists (Access via item list context menu)
- Layout Tree no longer loses focus after selecting a gadget in a different window (setGadgetVisible's flag parameter can now be
2 for 'Show But Don't Activate')
- Selecting a gadget from the combobox now switches to that gadget's window where necessary
- Positioning of gadgets using arrow keys now only works when the editing area window has focus
- Double-clicking on boolean values in the Property Selector (eg. Initially Enabled and Initially Visible) toggles them.

*Notes about the Item Editor*

- Due to a DarkBASIC Pro bug with WRITE STRING, it is not possible to save gadgets which have a large number of items. You
can however export .dba code for layouts containing gadgets that have a large number of items.

If Rainbow encounters problems when saving a gadget's details to the .gui file, it will display a message warning the user and
continue saving the other gadgets.

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no source?

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No fears, I'll upload that later


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good good

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Quote: "- Due to a DarkBASIC Pro bug with WRITE STRING, it is not possible to save gadgets which have a large number of items. You
can however export .dba code for layouts containing gadgets that have a large number of items. "


When I had problems with WRITE STRING I just wrote a function that wrote the string a byte at a time with WRITE BYTE.

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I thought there was a reason why I hadn't done that - but I might be mistaken.


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Is theer any way to make TABbing work? I just get an annoying "Ding!" and no response when I try to tab between gadgets.

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mabye you could add a set tab order command

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Hello,

If a window is resized, i'd like to know if it's possible to resize gadgets dynamicaly. I mean is it possible to resize them without waiting the end of the event.

also, the splitter gadget is missing me a lot.

Thanks for answers.
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you would just have to wait for the event, but you won't notice the lag unless your machine is a 133

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Hello,

I've some problem with my old post : resizing. My problem is when I use many gadgets and try to resize them, it's simply dont work. I'd like to know If it's possible to have a simple sample snippet to be sure that I'm no doing something wrong ( for instance, something with paint or auto update).

Thanks in advance.

Edit : It's clearly a problem with panels...
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Can you show me the code you are trying to use at the moment?

Resizing a gadget is simply a matter of doing resizeGadget(gadgetHandle,width,height)


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I have now had a chance to install Update 5.8

I had to make a few small modifications to the Rainbow source code to get it to compile, it seems that there are some bugs relating to comments in the new version, fortunately nothing fatal.

Please let me know if anyone experiences problems compiling under U5.8


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Oh, I didn't see that there was a other constant for event GADGET_SIZING and GADGET_SIZE. works fine now .

Anyway, If you can tell me what's the difference between them..

Thanks

Edit : Too fast, seems to be the same. I'm working on an example code ... It's a problem with GADGET_SIZE. Resizing with the window anchor works but not with the maximize button.
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Here's a code (not constant file used):



try resizing the window it's quite strange.
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Hello,

I've found an other error with u5.8 this time.



myString is always <> null, even if you're trying to cancel the open dialog.

There's a thread in the bug board about string init. but here it's not working any
way.

Edit : Using not operator like this not myString = "" make the program works.
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Window resizing is modal, which means that whilst it happens your DBPro code stops executing. Unfortunately there is nothing I can do about this.


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I don't understand well, sorry. I'm ok that I must wait the end of the event before resizing gadgets (fiting the window's size), but here I can't resize it...So I can't execute part of the program (referenced to the resize) when a resizing event occur ?

edit : If so, GADGET_SIZE or GADGET_SIZING are useless. (I don't want to dynamicaly resize gadgets, but do it just after the event is done)

for the second bug it's certainly a problem with dbpro.
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This modified code for the Window gadget example demonstrates use of the GADGET_SIZE event:




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Hello,

A/ Can you modify my previous code to make it run please?

B/ If you add a Toolbar to one window, the prog don't works :


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A)

I changed the main loop to this:



B)

That is because the event queue is flushed whenever a gadget is resized, including the toolbar. If you move flushEvents into the "if normalWindow" or "if toolWindow" branches, it should work.


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Thanks for answers Rob. I'll have a look on this when I can.

Cheers.
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Any chance of the source for Rainbow 1.02?

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Hi BatVink,

Login to the BlueGUI website, then download the latest sources from this link:

http://www.robertknight.me.uk/blue2/site/index.php?view=download&file=downloads/rainbow_src_21_04_05.zip


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Thank You indeedy.

Currently have a fantastic GUI for a dev tool, with a panel of sliders, works really well. More details when it's finished.

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Hello all User ......


Tanks Rob K Very Good Program ....

add in rainbow this Functions

Samples:

Visual Basic Tipe System ....


1 - Place Button ,2 - Duble Clik and add the code in Button or other Object
Add Print or other code dbpro ...,
it would become therefore Truly Optimal, Could be said Nearly Professional...

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however of new it compliments yours plug in appeals to a lot to me, however if you would add this function that or described over he would be Seeds Professional...
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comunque di nuovo complimenti il tuo plug in mi piace molto , comunque se aggiungeresti questa funzione che o descritto sopra sarebbe Semi Professionale ...

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Send Plese The other News Via My Email ....
( Via Newsletter ... System )

Anxiously awaiting BlueGUI v2

it informs to me when and ended BlueGUI v2
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DarkDomy,

the attached source helps. It creates a function called ProcessGUI() when you export. This has a MOUSE_CLICK operation for all of your controls.

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Hello,

I can't find the transparent color for TOOLBAR image button. I thought it was the first upper corner pixel one ... don't works.

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Hey RobK, Looks like blue is coming right along, with lotsa new features on the way

I did have one question though, it seems that there isn't a way to real check when the enter key or tab key is pressed in a text box, I'll go browsing through it again, but it doesn't seem that there's an event that I can use, unless there's one burried somewhere that I can't find.
If it helps, i'm working on an editor and I need to be able to update objects acording to the number the user types into the text box. It's simply impractical to have the user type in a value and then have to click an "update" button multiple times when trying to narrow down what he/she wants the value to be.

Thanks for making this awsome plugin!

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Quote: "I can't find the transparent color for TOOLBAR image button. I thought it was the first upper corner pixel one ... don't works. "


It is, but you have to use 256-colour images.


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oh,

silly question, thanks Rob
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Rob K? did you see my question?

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I did have one question though, it seems that there isn't a way to real check when the enter key or tab key is pressed in a text box, I'll go browsing through it again, but it doesn't seem that there's an event that I can use, unless there's one burried somewhere that I can't find.
If it helps, i'm working on an editor and I need to be able to update objects acording to the number the user types into the text box. It's simply impractical to have the user type in a value and then have to click an "update" button multiple times when trying to narrow down what he/she wants the value to be.
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CPU, I think you have to use the standard INKEY$() or SCANCODE() to capture the Tab Key. it needs a little more ork to make it a smooth experience for the user.

AFAIK, there is no "automatic" way to tab between controls

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Rob,

Rainbow is an truly excellent development tool, many thanks for releasing it.

Couple of requests for future versions:
1. When dragging a gadget from the top bar into the main window, it would be great to change the cursor to that gadgets icon.
2. New option in 'edit' -> Set main window bitmap. This would allow me to position the gadgets over the top of a reference bitmap my application is using.

Keep up the good work

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Hello,

Another question. I've noticed that the label gadget have a base back color same as the window standard color. I'd like to know if it's possible to change this color, or if I can make it tansparent. Labels look awful if you're using them in front of a tab for instance (with Xp style).

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@Tartopom

Use setGadgetColor to change the background color of label gadgets.

Syntax: setGadgetColor gadget,backgroundColor,foregroundColor

eg:

setGadgetColor label,RGB(255,0,0),RGB(0,0,255)

@Scorpio

I like those suggestions, I'll see what I can do.


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Thanks Rob.
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In the process of converting my client/server applications over to Blue2 i've made a list of bugs/features that would be great in your next version:

(this list is long but that's because i can see the power of this DLL and so want to make it a key part of my development process, a few more tweaks and this will be a truly outstanding tool for DB developers.)

DLL:
Listbox/Combobox -> insertitem GadgetID,itempos,string
Listbox/Combobox -> sort gadgetid,direction (alpha sort Ascending or descending)
Listbox/Combobox -> ensurevisible GadgetID,itempos (scroll the list so the item is visible)
Listbox/Combobox -> setitemcolour GadgetID,itempos,colourRGB

Rainbow - uiEdtor:
Shift+Cursor = alter size of gadget

Change gadget colours in editor,including transparent background for frames/lables.

Option in frame gadget, so 'label' is aligned with the frame outline as per standard windows control.

Saving does not preserve gadget order (items i sent to back are now on top again).

Allow multiple gadgets to be selected and moved together.

Drag gadget - Show gadget as well as the bounding box.

Grid - Show/Hide [option for before or after the gadgets are displayed]

Background - Bitmap

Right click gadget - size 2 content

align gadget selction - center horizontal / center vertical in window

add recent files list on file menu.

when opening a saved gui, reset the main window to the size it was last edited at.

when resizing main window, move the gadget properties window so it's aligned down right side.

edit box gadget - max length property, allowed characters property.

show gadgets which are not initially visible as greyed out.

gadget -> send 2 back

gadget -> copy/paste ... just increment a number at end of gadget name

grid -> grid spacing size

export -> direct 2 clipboard (no file save)

Other things i noticed:
selecting a different property (and enter wasn't pressed after last edit) loses the setting, very annoying.

dragging a gadget to a parent does not always work ... couldn't pinpoint the problem but needs looking at (gadgets tree view).

dragging a parent item in the window should auto drag the children with it !

add a status bar that shows current gadget name, position and size, very useful when positioning.

if an item is sent to front or back, all it's children should be affected in similar way.

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Another modification that would be very useful:

Default naming of Gadgets !

Instead of Gadget1,Gadget2 etc do something along the lines of:

ui[Window name][Gadget Description][gadget number]

So when a users opens the rainbow (or clicks NEW) it asks for the window size and the window name.
For example i'd type 800,600,Login

Then i drag out a label gadget, it auto gets the name
uiLoginLabel1

Then i drag out an edit gadget, it auto gets the name
uiLoginEdit2

Then i drag out a label gadget, it auto gets the name
uiLoginLabel3

Then i drag out an edit gadget, it auto gets the name
uiLoginEdit4

i'd probably rename these manually to uiLoginLabelUsername, uiLoginEditUsername, uiLoginLabelPassword,uiLoginEditPassword

the editor is helping to keep the gadgets named in a structued order, and also every new window of gadgets gets its own unique starting description, this greatly helps when you start using the gadgets in DB.

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setgadgetcolor is missing from the gui2.ini file.

you can add this line to the ini file, as the 'setgadgetcolor,html' is already there.
setGadgetColor=gui2_help\general\setGadgetColor.html=handle gadget,rgb back color,rgb text color

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@ CPU
Quote: "Quote: "
I did have one question though, it seems that there isn't a way to real check when the enter key or tab key is pressed in a text box, I'll go browsing through it again, but it doesn't seem that there's an event that I can use, unless there's one burried somewhere that I can't find.
If it helps, i'm working on an editor and I need to be able to update objects acording to the number the user types into the text box. It's simply impractical to have the user type in a value and then have to click an "update" button multiple times when trying to narrow down what he/she wants the value to be.
""


scancode() 15 is TAB, and 28 is ENTER

An example of how you can tab between gadgets follows:
(et=eventtype and es=eventsource)


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