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Dodic
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Posted: 5th Jan 2006 17:10
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Really ? - how terabile , ok i draw shark basic , but i still beg mods to confirm this , becouse i`m not sure ..


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What I suggest is you program Shark Basic in C++. That way, you can truely call it your own, and not worry about legal problems.

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I asked mods to avoid all possible problems , but yes , i am thinking about making it ider in c++ or assembly (rosasm) , i`l think it over a little , c is in consideration , too (i love pelles c..) . Anyways , it seems as i`l have to make it in another language , thank`s for warning me on time , sharky is drawed untill i make a remake in other language....


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Posted: 5th Jan 2006 18:03 Edited at: 5th Jan 2006 18:14
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this is still under a debate becouse i don`t want to break the law , sharky is unavailable for download now


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Quote: " I didn't mean OS I ment programming language.

You can't use db/dbp or dgsdk to make a programming language."


Tapewormz, have you *read* the license agreement?!

It is only illegal to make a programming language with DGSDK. Unless you wrap the DB functions completely (which isn't happening here) then it is 100% legal.

At least bother to read the License Agreement before making comments like that.

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Posted: 5th Jan 2006 22:07
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just email the commands to mjhey12@msn.com

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Posted: 5th Jan 2006 22:37
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ok , i`l do it tomorow i`m going to bed now...


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I know im a little late...but isnt it just checking a line to see if it's a command and then going to the next line to get the data?
so it's like:

reapeat
read string 1,string$
if string$="print"
read string 1,data$
print data$
endif
until EOF()

(oops, the eof() is EndOfFile in xblite, im not sure what it is in db, but it's the same thing.)

I bet after the command you put a space or something it would'nt work.

I dont really mean to put you down or anything, im just observing, this is probably the best little darkbasic made pl, good luck.

im way too lazy to type anything here...
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Posted: 6th Jan 2006 01:01
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well , i can`t comment on that , sence shark basic isn`t an open soruce project , but you can write "print to screen " and many spaces as you want it will work offcourse..




And this is not a thread for discussion about how it`s made.


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well ok, but as far as what you guys have been talking about, i think it would be perfectly legal to make a dll that parses the code, and just use db for all the 3d and stuff, wouldnt it? well im not sure. Check out xblite, its a great programming language, it's based on basic, but it's way faster, sometimes faster than c.

im way too lazy to type anything here...
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Quote: "Tapewormz, have you *read* the license agreement?!"


Yes I did. It's also important to note that they reserve the right to ammend their agreements at anytime. So doing any of this without consulting them, and getting written permission of some sort is grounds for trouble.

Quote: "At least bother to read the License Agreement before making comments like that."


Ditto...

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Posted: 6th Jan 2006 17:04
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Well , it`s totaly legal , so don`t start that again , please.


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"good" news everyone , i now have monthly payed 5 times quicker internet connetion , good news , ha?


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good job Dodic shark basic is really cool i tried and it is asome but you should go to clickteam.com and download there dowloading software so all of the files will be on th epersons computer instead of just that one folder. do you know what i meen.

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Yeah , well i can now easily upload big files , no more "SLOWELY" guy...now i`m FAST and FURIOUS (just a little joke)

anyways , welcome back db newbie . If you want to be included on shark basic project , i might think of something for you to do (but you wont get shark basic`s source , it`s STILL not open source , one day it might be , but for now...)


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Posted: 6th Jan 2006 19:51
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yah sure if you have something easy maybe i can do it.

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Well , writing help is my biggest problem , becouse it`s a simple free project , that takes time , and help takes just too much.

(now , i wont have ANY troubles with posting update becouse now im REALLY connected with a great speed connection..)


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Quote: "now i`m FAST and FURIOUS"

Uh oh... not good...


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Yeah well , don`t worry i`m having BIG setting up trouble , it might(JUST MIGHT) be possible that i wont be able to connect AT ALL for a couple of months (that would be a nice break , ha ? - don`t worry , internet cafee`s and stuff like that are there for that...)


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POSSIBLY COMMING UP AFTER SHARK BASIC IS FINISHED (v2.0 to be exact)

: A small very easy to use application in witch you can very easily creat YOUR OWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE based on shark basic`s language , only thing you will need to do is to write in your language (easily) and , i will probably include a small help writer so you can make your whole language simply.. (but this is only a possibility , it is possible that i don`t do it as well.)


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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 02:07
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well dodic for the help can i edit it like correct spelling and stuff.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 02:47 Edited at: 7th Jan 2006 04:16
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well , whatever you want... (i`l see...)


p.s. i`m now working hard on shark basic v1.0 as i said befoure , it should really be as more complete as possible , and i`m now working on making it able to "create" .exe`s (it wont realy write them , but you will be able to save your project as .exe file !) - but that will take much of my time..


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I have an idea for the exe file. You could make the runtime file the exe, and just have the code with the runtime file. You could rename the runtime to the game name, and the code to like, code, and that is the name the runtime opens, and it would work with the two files and media. If you know how to pack the media into the exe, then great, and you could do that.


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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 16:08 Edited at: 7th Jan 2006 16:09
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I know how to make the exe file , thanks.

Here`s my idea : When you click on create exe , it ask`s you for the name , then it makes new folder (or at the start , your projects folder) copy rountime.exe and paste it there and rename it to nameyouentered.exe and also copy one dll file witch containes decripted script for the exe to do... (like in quikly game pro - i think...)

and for the media , unfortinatly it would be ileggal to change that .exe file and pack anything into it (i know , it would be great if it could pack all into one .exe file , but sorry...)


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Why not just do

execute file "Complier.exe", e.t.c

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Yeah, that is what I was talking about Dodic.


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I already know a good way i`l do it , don`t worry about it


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Concerning a sig.

Hey man, I thought I'd try my hand at photoshop, and make a sig for you:



or maybe:



In blue? What do you think?

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Very nice done , but i`m not sure if i`m going to use becouse black one has a little white outline and blue is a little eye braker , but thank`s for making those , they`r great ! (but mine is cool aswell , and i did it in GIMP)


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Your welcome. Feel free to use those anytime you want. There yours, but you don't necessarily have to use them.

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Thank you VERY much !


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Lol, I like the motto, Bob Joe Sam Tom!


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lol Thanks!

But be careful... you never know. One day you might be sitting innocently at your desk, making a DB program when suddenly... *CHOMP!*. The "Basic Shark" will sneak up behind you and devour you & your program.

*dun dun duh!*

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lol! ... That`s true , So better like Shark Basic or else...


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whoops...dupe post.

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Quote: "Well , it`s totaly legal , so don`t start that again , please."


Did you ask permission from TGC? You can't assume anything... I'm not going to assume that it's illegal anymore, but you shouldn't assume that it is legal. The best thing to do is email them and ask. If you're not willing to do that, then you're obviously worried that there may be a problem.

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offcourse , i think i already did send that question.. yes i did..


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ok, lemme get this staight:

HE makes a HUGE competitor for DB, and y'all hate ME for doing one too???

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Quote: "ok, lemme get this staight:

HE makes a HUGE competitor for DB, and y'all hate ME for doing one too???"



Huge competitor for Db ?? ha,ha,ha

That`s most certanly a huge competitor , and i think your db newbie , but sorry if i`m wrong , becouse you are the only one hwo makes another basic and says "v0.2 is almSot ready!!"


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Oh, no. Stop using avatars used by others in this forum!! AARRGGHH! Its so annoying. First, I thought you were TDK, then, I thought you were The Nerd. Its really confusing... Can you please use a different avatar?

Hey where has TDK been, anyway?

Also, I don't think it would be a good idea to try to compete with DB, when part of your compiler is made in DB!!!


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Quote: "Also, I don't think it would be a good idea to try to compete with DB, when part of your compiler is made in DB"


haha, i said that`s a joke to dbnewbie , i know it`s not close..


Quote: "Hey where has TDK been, anyway?"


i don`t know , is he back ?


p.s. A POSSIBILITY THAT MIGHT HEPPEN TO SHARK BASIC :
Full rewrite from a pointless "basic" language to a basic language with lower features , but with a normal sintax like :

Maximum power of it in that case would be OPEN GL V1.0 3d options (possibility to create matrix and stuff , but harder then in db , possibility to WRITE support for a 3d model format IN IT ).
(but you WOULD be able to write 2d games ,3d demos and maby eaven games)

In that case it would be based on Basic4gl`s engine in co-operation with Tom Mulgrew .

(that`s just a thought..)


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you dont use normal syntax??

its like:

print to screen
"hello, world!"

still?? LOL. i dropped that syntax like a month ago...

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hey, i could help with sharky. i'm more into commercial software, but i could ALWAYS use a little challenge

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thans for offer i`m doing fine...


but you COULD give me an example .exe or whatever i can run without compiler (my visual c++ doesn`t compile last few monts for some reason...) anyways i would like to see your compiler , not source , just to see it compiles like print "hello" or something similiar to hello , i`m sure you finished a printing command by now...right ?


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not quite yet. i'm working on basic syntax and framework of the compiler before i get into commands.

oh, its easier to program:

then to program


EDIT: well i kinda have a print , but it doesnt seem to work. some kinda bugs in it.

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yeah , but you cant say you passed over that it you didnt finished it up eaven for a printing command...(don`t take it as an offence)


And please don`t post much about your compiler here , this is only for Shark Basic Conversation.


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ok, ok. i just have to fix this dumb bug, add a couple more commands and MediaBASIC is ready.

oh, the media made with MEDIABASIC is made of solid steel, sharkproof

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i can help whit modeling and whatnmot. i pretty much own at that so go ahead. and sak that be great!

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Take a look at this :

http://www.freewebs.com/dbresources/index.html


My new web-site (not mine litherarily , i made it , but mine will be about only me and only my stuff..)


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Quote: "Hey where has TDK been, anyway?"

Word is he has switched to DBP..


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