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Program Announcements / Newton Game Dynamics WRAPPER v1.30

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walaber
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Well here it is at last, the newest version of my Newton Game Dynamics SDK wrapper for DBPro.

lots of new features in this version, heres a short list:

New collision primitives (Cylinder, Ellipsoid, Cone, Chamfer Cylinder, Capsule, Convex Hull )
Vehicle system
Improved Ragdoll system
Improved wrapper interface (removed some commands, added others)
RayCast system
and much more!

DEMO SCREENSHOTS:

Collision Primitives DEMO


Joints DEMO


Materials & Collision DEMO


FPS Example DEMO


Vehicle DEMO


Buoyancy DEMO


Simple Ragdoll DEMO


DEMO EXE DOWNLOAD (rar archive, about 11MB)

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Wrapper includes:
NDB.dll (now with Newton.dll built in)
source code to all 8 demos
Brand new Rigid BodyDesigner tool for making complex bodies easily.
Documentation for all commands!
Keywords file for highliting in IDE
Ragdoll tutorial

WRAPPER DOWNLOAD - rar archive, about 4MB.

don't forget I have a forum just for the wrapper that gets pretty good traffic... post any questions/comments in this thread, or on my forum (at my WEBSITE)

Let the physics begin!

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Wonderful!!! Downloading now! (PS:I love you!)

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hoot hoot

go walaber

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I've been grinding my teeth waiting for this.

Good work walaber!

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when i try to run the code (In dbpro) it say "Could not understand line ..."

In every demo i try it stop at the line were there stand "NDB_NewtonCreate"




WHY!! PLEASE HELP




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read the README file... you haven't installed the wrapper properly.

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Downloading now.

Walaber I also love you!!!


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Looks very interesting. I'll begin experiments. THis oculd be very very useful

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Posted: 4th Dec 2004 21:51 Edited at: 4th Dec 2004 21:53
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I got a problem

When I compile any of the demos I get this error:

Command in DLL command-table duplicated (NDB.dll:NDB_DestroyVehicle)

then the program runs very wierd or just crashes.


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Just Totally Awesome!
This is by far some of the coolest things to happen to DBP.
GREAT work! I love the joint demo, my mind is on over load, thinking of ways to use it.


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yes awsome the vehicle demo works for me now for some reason

we`ll never have to wory about game physics again :p


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Awesome, though i am having a couple of probs. The programs run very slow when making new objects, and the message box at the top flickers constantly. Also, the materials demo doesn't work for me. I just get a plain blue screen and can fire balls...

Still, excellent piece of work, and im very excited about starting some vehicle demos

coincidence? how about pure cosmic convergence!
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@Flashing Blade
Try updating darkbasic to v5.7, that worked for me. The demos now work fine, however I still the same error message at the beginning everytime.

@walaber
Very, very nice
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Posted: 4th Dec 2004 22:31 Edited at: 4th Dec 2004 22:36
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walaber: i'm having the same problem as Flashing Blade... except mine won't even compile


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Very cool! I cant wait to make a physics mini game - maybe a boat race game i thought?

I am the lead programmer at red spark studios
I also have a blog on how to make a game engine
http://www.dbgame.blogspot.com
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@ Oliver, I'm on 5.7

Most of the demos compile & run, but they don't look right. The ones that work the text instructions flicker and seem to run at low fps. The FPS demo compiles and runs but is virtualy un-controlable.


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Redownload and install.

Make sure you put both the new Newton.dll in the project folder and the new NDB.dll in the plugins folder.
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I had 2 entries for NDB_DestroyVehicle in the string table... I've fixed the NDB.dll, and am uploading a fixed version of the wrapper now.

those who have already downloaded can get the fixed NDB.dll by clicking on the download button in this post.

for those having problems
with the new wrapper, you ONLY need NDB.dll in your plugins-user directory. there is no longer any need to Newton.dll to be anywhere on your system, it's built into the wrapper. if you have Newton.dll in your plugins-user directory, or your program directory, delete it! have a look at my demos, none of them use Newton.dll

also, I did all of this with DBPro version 1.055, so I'm not sure if there are any problems with other versions... I was too scared to update to 1.057 mid-project

anyone having problems, please post your Windows version, and what version of DBPro your using!

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@ Walaber thanx - d/loading now

@ Chris K - I think the NBD.dll now has Newton.dll built in so I don't think you need newton.dll in project folder.


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Quote: "walaber: i'm having the same problem as Flashing Blade... except mine won't even compile"


Have you got two copies of newton in the plugins-user directory?

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Don't get error now but programs demos still run same

Most flicker and run slow
FPS one is un-controlable.



*Edit*
DBpro 5.7
DirectX 9.0c

*Edit 2*
Just downloaded example exes - wow! Damn I'm jelous of all of you who have it working.


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Yeah, same here. Must be due to DBPro versions.

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Works perfectly here with:

DBPro U5.7
DirectX9.0c
Enhancement, EZRotate, NuclearGlory 3, BlueGUI2 and Cloth&Particles packs installed.

This is top notch stuff Walaber. Playtime!

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This is brillant!!!



In under 30 seconds i added rag dolls to the FPS game. All I need now is a vechile (though that will probably another 30s) and I'll have the next halo game done by this evening!

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Quote: "if you want the help files to work in the IDE, copy all of the HTM files from the "help" directory into your DarkBasicPro "Help" directory!"


I couldnt find a help folder included with the zip file, did you mean the docs folder?

[edit] Amazing things can be done with this wrapper, thanks Walaber



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Yippee got it working.
I recently re-instaled DBpro but never updated IDE. Just updated IDE and works fine now.

This is top stuff - well done Walaber.




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i cannot get newton to compile it just halts on the compilation screen no error just does nothing , i have win 98se and dbp 5.7 or something the latest one anyways


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Neat!

The physics reactions in the vehicle demo need toning down, though. It's nearly uncontrolable.

Cheese!
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This works quite well on my machine. However, I have one question. Even if I set the sync rate to 0, the maximum frame rate it hits is 60. I know that my machine can go higher, is it something in the DLL itself that maximizes the sync rate?

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Yayyy.........................
Downloading....

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I got a problem, the precompiled demos run flawlessly, but when I try to compile my own, they start at 33fps max where as the precompiled demos start at 66fps. Use can see the newton objects being made in my compiled demos, but the precompiled demos you dont. Also the vehicle demo stops as the truck is being created and says file not found

I have also tried the new dll that was posted after the initial release of the wrapper

Im using Windows XP SP1, DBpro version 5.7
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Run it in "Fullscreen Exclusive Mode".
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Very very nice Walaber . May take me a while to get used to the commands, but I will .

The vehicle seems to be driving on ice though, or it just has super wheel spin or something, cos if you get up to a certain speed, turning just makes the car spin. Any idea how to counteract this effect?

Isn't it? Wasn't it? Marvellous!
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set display mode 1024,768,32 that at the beginning fixes my problem
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I can't get it to work...
The program compiled and everything, but when it starts I just get a black screen and eventually the program quits itself (or I quit it via Control-Alt-Delete). I rem'd the subroutine out of the program, and it compiles and runs as normal. What am I doing wrong??

Here's the initialization routine, for anyone who's interested:

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
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{PS} I'm running DBP 5.7 under Windows XP SP2. I've tried the code in BlueIDE and TwilightIDE, and it failed both times. The demos compile and run fine.

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If I make the torque=315

if keystate(17)
ACCEL = 1
Torque# = 315.0
endif

and steering angle=35

MaxSteeringAngle# = 35.0 - ((vel#/100.0)*35.0)

Then it drives alot slower but the ice driving disappears
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I'm having problems compiling the demos, I get 2 illigal ops then nothing happens, I'm just sitting looking at the ide.

Using Win98SE and DBPro 1.055.

I tried upgrading to v1.057 but then nothing compiles at all.
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yeh most dll`s give me 2 illegal op`s but they usually compile and work, seems win 98se has some issues

@christy b i got exact sae prob as you although the earlier version of this wrapper worked fine.


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Yer all earlier versions of the wrapper that I have used have worked fine after a couple of illigal ops it's just now it's started with the major problems.

Hopefully this doesn't mean I have to upgrade my perfectly safe Win98 PC to the brightly coloured evil that is XP.
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Don't worry, you can set it to Classic mode like me.

Green start button? Are you kidding me?!
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well its the first version to work on my pc with no problems............................nice work walaber


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Flashing Blade - glad you got it working!

Oliver - very cool! does shooting the ragdolls work without any modification? i think it should...

Merix - sorry, that's a typo. it's the "docs" folder!

dark coder - seems to be a Win98se problem... the old wrapper had problems for Win98se users too... perhaps I can try recompiling the DLL in Debug mode, and see if that changes anything for you...

Hamish McHaggis - the vehicle demo is VERY simple, and in a real game, you would want to do something other than just set torque to a constant value. I think it's slipping because the tires have too much torque constantly, so they lose traction and spin too fast. There are lots of resources on the net about coding a "gearbox", adding something like that would probably help a lot. at the very least, having the torque ramp up from 0 slowly would also probably help a lot. the suspension settings of the truck also come into play. I have it set really "bouncy" in the demo.

Mr Underhill - couple problems with your code. in general you're missing steps. for example:
Quote: "ndb_player=NDB_NewtonCreateConvexHull(3)
NDB_BodySetDBProData ndb_player,3"

the CreateConvexHull command creates collision geometry. this is just a description of the shape. then you must call NDB_NewtonCreateBody() on that collision to make it into a Rigid Body. after that call the SetDBProData command.

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walaber: great job, everything works here. i was just wondering, is there a way to limit how far the bouyance plane's reach is? (instead of it stretching for the whole newton world size)

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jwurmz, no, a plane is by definition infinite. you need to perform some kind of check on your own, and turn buoyancy on/off based on if the body is in your "water volume" or not.

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Quote: "Mr Underhill - couple problems with your code. in general you're missing steps. for example:

Quote: "ndb_player=NDB_NewtonCreateConvexHull(3)
NDB_BodySetDBProData ndb_player,3"

the CreateConvexHull command creates collision geometry. this is just a description of the shape. then you must call NDB_NewtonCreateBody() on that collision to make it into a Rigid Body. after that call the SetDBProData command."


Yeah, just found that out from reading demo #1. I was probably looking for an object that doesn't exist, hence the hold-up. I'll try again, and I'll report my results. Thanks, man!

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walaber: figured so, shouldn't be a problem making zones. another question (hope you don't mind) - is there a way to load a prefab mesh (X mesh), scale it about the x, y, or z axis (each axis allowing for different amounts), and create tree collision from it that takes into account the new xyz scales? i've tried a few things, but i'm stuck...

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The help files weren't working for me until I deleted file BIDEkeywords from the directory so Blue IDE could re-build. Just thought I'd pass that along!
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OK, I'm back from fixing the code...no luck . It still gives me a blank screen and shuts itself off. Here's the troublemaking code:

My problem is that I don't see a problem . It should work fine, right?
Ah, well. I'll just re-make the whole program to make it work. It's not like I had much to begin with , I mean,60+% of the old code was physics to make it work, and Newton pretty much makes that obsolete already.

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I am getting two weird issues with the FPS demo but I think it has to do mainly with slope. Sometimes the ability to jump just completely goes away, also I've noticed if you jump you also seem to bob back up a tiny bit after you land. But on certain parts of the level (the terrain is uneaven and hilly so like I said, it might be slope) you can't jump at all.

The second part is similar, sometimes you can't shoot. The bullet isn't placed and nothing you shoot is affected. It seems to turn on and off randomly.

And I still can't get above 60 FPS. Any ideas?

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jwurmz - not currently, because when you access the vertex data, DBPro doesn't account for scale. the object is scaled with it's rendered, it's base data doesn't change. however I think I have an idea for a solution that may be in an upcoming release. for now, just pre-scale in your modeller!

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