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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 04:09 Edited at: 10th Aug 2007 04:14
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The login system is very annoying. And feels unnecessary. I don't really understand it, but when I think I got it right I got an object does not exist error. I'm gonna try the demo account and see if I'm just not following something...

EDIT: Got the demo account working (still not mine). Very laggy. Worse than most Game Maker MMO's


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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 04:28 Edited at: 10th Aug 2007 04:29
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If you have fixed IP you can get your passwords back here..

http://81.174.154.100/cgi-bin/war/recovery.pl

Don't forget they are case sensitive.

My project is about game security, 2 factor authentication is something I borrowed from online banking to make password theft harder.

The game server is in the UK so if you are in the USA then lag should be expected as your message has to travel a long round trip.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 12:44
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No fair! I can't get exp from the bot!


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Like all normal players, if they are on 0exp you cannot score from them, so just let it shoot you at least once then you can score 1 point for hits on it. You won't get 5 points for a kill unless the bot has 5 points to give you.

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Code Dragon has taken 1st place from Diggsey in the high scores!

http://81.174.154.100/cgi-bin/war/high_scores.pl

This means War!

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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 18:46 Edited at: 10th Aug 2007 18:46
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I'm going to hit 4 figures soon.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 18:48 Edited at: 10th Aug 2007 18:55
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............where can i get this game???......
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NEVER MIND... Could you put the download in a post? cant goto that site
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PLZ? ANYBODY????
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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 20:08 Edited at: 10th Aug 2007 20:10
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I change it nearly every day so it's pointless uploading it here.

This is the direct link (if your web browser is blocking JavaScript)

http://www.kumkie.com/war/clientdownload/warclient.zip

TURN YOUR VOLUME LEVEL DOWN IT'S A BIT LOUD!!! [USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!]

You can try it out on the demo account before deciding if you want to make one..

loginname - demo
password - demodemo
favourite (2nd password) - demo

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No it's blocking Every web site accept this one
My dads strict,you know...
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Posted: 10th Aug 2007 20:26
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@Gator, can you put a sign next to people's names in the highscores table, telling us whether or not they're online? Either that, or have a seperate page, saying who's online


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And I would like to get online,too!!!
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Runtime Error - Object does not exist at line 1092

I think that's the exact error I got.


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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 01:03 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 01:15
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Quote: "Runtime Error - Object does not exist at line 1092"


I've seen it happen if you double clicked too much and lauched two clients at the same time. Just close them both and try again to double click once and it should work. or maybe you have an old client that is not compatible with the new server, just download the latest one.

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My dads strict,you know... "


Then I doubt the game will work it needs to visit kumkie.com to fetch updates. Sorry.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 16:07 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 16:09
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Beware I'm stress testing for my report so the server may be offline or full of bot players... I surprised poor Digsey, i bet he was thinking WTF!



I've managed to simulat 57 players so far then multisync reached it's 2048 byte packet limit.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 16:45 Edited at: 18th Jan 2009 00:09
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Wow. I managed to kill a few of those Stress bots, now I'm in top spot again.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 17:08 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 17:13
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Lol you had to go hide in the water.



I couldn't go beyond 57 players again, even though i used multiple computers and exes to make the bots.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 18:58 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 19:08
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[Edit: OK, nevermind, works now...]

I just noticed this thread and read the first side, so sorry if it has been asked, but what do I have to insert, when the client asks me for the "Favourite Fact Character (X)"?
I tried to insert the X'th character of my password, but that doesn't work...
The game looks great.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 19:35 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 19:44
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its the (x) character in your favourite fact (2nd factor password)

so say you have

loginname = fred
password = fredfrog
fav fact = Luv frog

if you get asked for character (x) from your fav fact you enter..

(1) "L" not "l"
(2) "u"
(3) "v"
(4) " " not <return key>
(5) "f"
(6) "r"
(7) "o"
(8) "g"
(9) <return key> because no value there

This is what online banks do in england to try and stop password theft. Even if you watched somone enter it once, the changes are the 2nd factor password question/answer would be different. In fact my bank asks for 3 characters, so i made it a bit easier!

It's a bit OTT but my project is about game security so it's staying in there for now.

If you find it confusing you can make another account just have a simple fact like "f" as your 2nd factor password so if you get asked (1) you type "f" anything else just press <return>

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Have you noticed that sometimes it asks for the same character twice? Not good for security, me thinks.


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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 22:12 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 22:18
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I can fix that but i was in minds wether to or not.

I got past the 57 player limit, I've now hosted 98 players in a single zone before the server ran out of steam. Damn only 2 away from the magical 100 i was aiming for! I might try hiding the graphics.



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Posted: 11th Aug 2007 22:19 Edited at: 11th Aug 2007 22:22
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We should set a date and time, where as many people as possible, log on, and we can all have one huge great battle, and it would be really cool

edit:
Maybe we could make a thread in off-topic, to get even more people to play

edit2:
I'm online atm (hint, hint)


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The game is looking pretty nice, except I can't stand the movement. It seems really jerky, and it seems like it snaps to a certain angle.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2007 05:44 Edited at: 12th Aug 2007 05:53
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A very special moment... 100 network bots (Pentium Celeron 2.5Ghz + 7600GS hosting it) + 3 other PCs to run the stress test bots.



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very nice stress tests! 100 players is awsome! judging by the lag of 192ms thats not that bad. how much lag is gained per every 10 players? is it very significant? ive been working on my server for a while and i would like a good estimate of how many players i can support in a zone have any tips for reducing lag with a lot of players?

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4 FPS

Yes, thats great, 100 bots, but... only 4 FPS???


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Posted: 12th Aug 2007 11:58 Edited at: 12th Aug 2007 11:58
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That's the server, so it doesn't matter
(The clients interpolate between each set of values the server sends, and you can't send 100 tanks' data more than 4 times a second anyway.)


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I've got ideas on how I can improve the player count with zoning and the like but no time for that right now. My next test will be fully encrypted traffic and see how many players it can support. I'm expecting encryption is gona be heavy on the CPU and reduce it to 25-50 players

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You could disable the server cam so it can support even more players...

I now have over 1000 experience points in this game by the way.

P.S. Look at the distribution of points, looks like some people need to play more often! Come on everyone, I'm starting a 1000 points club.




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If I could actually connect to the game, I would. However, seeing as the game refuses to let me...


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Haha Code Dragon! I beat ya.. Unfortunally i asked GatorHex to reset my exp so i can beat ya guys again

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Nice graph and nice fake but the real high scores are here

http://81.174.154.100/cgi-bin/war/high_scores.pl

Quote: "You could disable the server cam so it can support even more players"


I tried hiding the objects so they wouldn't draw but the collision went more cruddy. When I get time after the report I'll probably look into using sparky instead. If i switch the camera off does that work? I'm not sure the nVidia 7600GS isn't even breaking a sweat drawing 100 low poly tanks though

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Just to let everybody know, one has just regained one's rightful position in the scoreboard (number one). One is pleased


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Hey gatorHex..

Is your encryptor dll out? Id like to encrypt some stuff on my RPG.

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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=109067&b=5

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@GatorHex - What country is the the server in? I still have LoL (lots of lag) sometimes

@Diggsey - One should enjoy it now, for one will not have number one for long...


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England, i find lots of lag normal caused by my WiFi LAN. Wired works great.

In an hour or so I'll be changing over to the secure server and you may not be able to login until the new client uploads.

[ok - new secure client ready]

Now you can see no data even if you stick a packet analyser accross it. This means no-one can sniff your password, write a clone server, or write an auto bot

[hmm a few bux need fixing in the morning]

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OMG!!!

Im 16 out of 50 players!!

I RULE


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I'm gonna try this soon (can't now). Looks pretty awesome, and of all the mmo games, this one is being played a lot.

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I get a message,

Quote: "Server is thinking, please wait.."


What port do you need to have open? I'm behind a router, so maybe there is a closed port?
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Port 80 for updates
Port 3999 to log in

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It could mean the server is offline or it cannot get outside your computer. It's vary rarely offline.

Yeah diggsey is right, but 3999 is for more than just logging in it's also for gameplay traffic.

It may not be the router it could also be a firewall on your PC like Norton, Zone Alarm or Windows inbuilt Firewall (go to network connections and select properties) blocking it.

If a message pops up saying "do you want to allow WarClient.exe to access the internet" you need to select allow/yes/ok

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aw dang i wanted to rack up another 100 points in a single play session
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Haha.. Diggsey you need to thank me

GatorHex:

I have really tried almost anything to cheat on your client and i need to say this is really uncheatable for me.. I think it will be cheatable for some experts but not sure

I tried value changing..
No luck (I guessed it tough)

I tried packet sniffing..
Well i got some encrypted sending strings what i coulve changed if i know how to decrypt it lol..

But i got my tank shooting whole time (I couldnt break the timer )

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I think the shooting is working wierd at the mo not sure what I broke.

Server is online but bots don't work yet.

I've just fixed encrypting messages, i don't think it was right.

Uploading updates now [please wait]

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Say Gator? Is tehre any client send packet what could be critical ?

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If you stop one of your packets going out it will only effect your screen. As far as the game and everyone is concerned it didn't happen. It's not like Warrock where you can drop bullet packets and reduce the chance of getting shot or multiply bullet packets and increase your firepower.

Let me know what you try and how you did it, it can all go in my report

[client update done]

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Ok if i get something strange or that way ill report it

Ill tried my speedhack but cuz movement is server based ofcourse it wont work

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Sorry for double post but could someone come to game? And say if they see something weird on my tank.. Yesterday when i sniffed some packets and send some weird packets Code Dragon said that i teleported.

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I've fixed the showing multiple firing bug.

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