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ciao emes ho visto k sei italiano potresti spiegarmi come fare un atmosfera decente su un pianeta??(sto creando un gioco ambientato nello spazio)
grazie in anticipo!!
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Posted: 15th Nov 2010 17:35 Edited at: 15th Nov 2010 17:39
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2 cose:

essenzialmente il pianeta è una sfera, per fare l'effetto atmosfera sfumata usa un plain orientato sempre verso la camera con una sfumatura circolare (guarda nella cartella planets/ i file che finiscono in "glow" - oppure esempio allegato) opportunamente collocato in mezzo al pianeta, come se lo tagliasse in due, e deve essere + grosso, per farne vedere i bordi.



se vuoi creare delle nuvole, basta fare una sfera + grossa centrata sul pianeta e dare l'effetto ghost.

esiste uno shader per simulare giorno e notte, ma io l'ho copiato da un esempio scritto da dark coder, e non saprei spiegartelo, io l'ho adattato alla belle e meglio, e funziona, ma non so come ho fatto...

cmq non è essenziale il sistema dello shader.

saluti!!

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It's like... it's like they're speaking a different language to the rest of us...

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Posted: 15th Nov 2010 17:59 Edited at: 15th Nov 2010 18:00
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well, a little explanation about making a simple atmosphere around a planet, with a plain for planet glow and a ghosted sphere for the clouds. then... you are speaking a different language to the rest of us... (us=italian people )

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Posted: 15th Nov 2010 17:59 Edited at: 15th Nov 2010 18:01
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google says:



The last sentence makes absolutely no sense...

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Posted: 15th Nov 2010 18:02 Edited at: 15th Nov 2010 18:03
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wow wonderful the translation of "ogni scarafone è bello a mamma sua!" - BTW terrible english translation...

"scarafone" is a dialect word for "BUG" but a very ugly bug.

the right translation is "each bug is beautiful to its mother"

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grazie mille!!!
traduct for everyone thanks very much!!!
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Posted: 15th Nov 2010 20:36
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Zappi, feel free to ask what you want.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2010 23:23 Edited at: 16th Nov 2010 12:39
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i would like to write two lines about this game's aim.

1) not fast action: the game yes run at 60fps, but it is aimed to a slow action arcade game, no incredible speed, no actions to perform in tents of second, relaxing.

2) lot of ships,more than 1 enemy race (we have torion, kabellarian, pirates and mercs) and allied races.

3) try to get a somewhat feeling to not be alone in the game, with radio messages from friend and foe.

4) a ships archive to watch ships in all their glory (maybe not so much glory..)

5) at least a minimun grfx effects like smoke,lights and engine flames.

6) replay missions will give you experience and money

7) some rpg elements like experience and levels for ships.

8) player can have a personal fleet, buy and sell vessels.

9) a campaign not so long but not so short.

10) sick and tired to use a small starfighter... let's use a starship!

and finally, i like space sim games! the best ?? warhead for amiga and the first wing commander!

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Posted: 16th Nov 2010 00:56 Edited at: 16th Nov 2010 11:19
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Mision 39: escort a damaged -Lepanto- to a safe space zone.



well, sorry for the hud in italian, as you know the game is in both english/italian

*lowres textures because with hires textures final game will be about 400mb... now is sized to 100-120 mb

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Oh no, keep the hi-res textures! You should have an option to download the hi-res or low-res, because I'd happily go for the hi-res.

There aren't enough words to describe how awesome that screenshot looks... Awesome work! Have you thought of adding that heat-haze shader to the engines of your ship?

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=175042&b=1

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Posted: 16th Nov 2010 13:34 Edited at: 16th Nov 2010 14:06
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heat haze, it will be great! looking for this after the missions set will be completed.
and it's a shame most of the texture effects are made on the lowres version of the same, so for this time only lowres.

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gone mad for making the very beginning of my new site:

unable to read the index.html ... because i wrote Index.html instead of index.html (case sensitive... incredible digilander.libero.it ...)

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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 16:14 Edited at: 17th Nov 2010 16:19
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ah.. the "RED NAVY"...





a bit steampunk.

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Woha, it looks really nice! Looks like it could fit in the star wars movies. Keep it up!


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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 12:58 Edited at: 18th Nov 2010 13:00
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Thanks ZZZ, i'm happy you like this ship!

this is an upgrade of the -New York- class frigate (upgraded ships are usually unlocked during bonus missions, i.e. you play a bonus mission, you will find the upgraded ship, you can then purchase it.)



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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 13:48
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Now THAT thing looks like one of my crazy nightmares! It has weird googely eyes

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!!!!!!!!!!!! it'true... it has eyes!!!

going to change it. with the ank resembling a mouth...

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! Noo, don't change it, it looks so cute. !

It's like a happy ship. xD

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Wow.. I hope one day I could make something even remotely close to this. Really nice example of what DB can do.

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well, it's 7 years i'm on DBpro, and before with amos - amiga, and when i was 8, basic 1.3 of c64.
i'm wondering how many lines of codes i've writed so far.

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i was wondering to mod this game with Star Trek ships.
Earth and Vulcan versus borg,klingons and romulans.

it's really easy make star trek ships, are all about the same! a dish plus one/two/three engine nacelles, and a central cyl body.

no need to write a playground, or a story. just the Kirk of the situation and an horde of evil enemies... the game is done!!!

no need to make an end at the game, star trek never ends.

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It is a good idea on its own.
To choose a popular sci-fi culture would help to attract more people to play your game.
However, unless specifically aimed, I would say that having an already existing style is what people do when they do not have any other subject. You already developed your custom ships and story, if I'm not wrong.
What I would do is to finish the current project and publish it as it is, with the look that you designed. I think you said you were close to this point.
After that, you can think at any time to improve it specifically with Star Trek, Star Wars or Galactica ships, and release for example, the 'Star Trek version'. You can even call the new game with a different name, if you don't want it to be related with the previous versions.
I say this because it looks like a major change to me, and there is no need for this if the project is almost finished...
Anyway don't want to put you down. I think it would always be a good idea.

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oh yes, that mod is for sure after the game is completed and published, the point is the game's engine fit 100% the requirements of a "star trek" or "galactica" game!

about complete this game, at least 10 missions, maybe 10 new ships, testing, and the game is done.

wondering on use heat haze shader, but probably knock out my fps rate.

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Quote: " the game's engine fit 100% the requirements of a "star trek" or "galactica" game!"

Or, maybe a Wing Commander game?

So, were the lensflares I posted of any use to you? If you need more, just ask. I can make thousands of them.

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not fitted yet. focused on complete the missions set.

i'm sure your lens set will be useful!

thanks!

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Like the sound of Star Trek ships, I will love driving one of the kazon ships

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voyager series aren't my favourite, i like "star trek enterprise", i prefer early space flight vessels, like the botany bay, or the mighty "dedalus" class.



BTW i'm working on an "eye candy" dedalus class entry for my game.


-i love this site-:

http://www.starfleet-museum.org/

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Daedalus class ready to be texturized!

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Sorry, testing.



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This is awesome!

Don't take the Nazi Starship out either. It's awesome. (no im not a Nazi)

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nazi ship is 100% in. you need a password to unlock the right texture, but it's in.

one of the most intresting feature of this game is the number of the ships in the game, with objects like asteroids, space medusas, berzekers (who remeber it in warhead?) space stations, civil ships and military vessels, i'm about 105 now. the number will be increased to 120 i think, a space gran turismo. player can use about 45 of them.ships are lowpoly and midres texture.only smooth effect applied.

a bad note is the english translation. The game is in italian and in english, italian is perfect but english isn't so good. i can't effort a professional translator and google translator is a nightmare (ah ah!) so, mission are understandable but not so beautiful to read. the txt of the 'missions','intro' and the 'end' is in the dba source of the game. if someone will correct it (when the game is complete and posted) i'll fix it.

then, i spent a lot of time on balancing the 4 difficulty level of the game, anyhow if some level is not for your match, you can raise or lower the difficulty at any time, without restart the campaign.

finally, my friend Filippo Benigno works on the music section of the game,making lots of incredibles mp3! great man.
he's also making a new space arcade game, 'the last space 3'. it will be posted in the 'program announcement' soon.

BTW, it's not so easy to use two languages,i'm a skilled one in italian but not so good with english.



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lolz, you changed your avatar to the funny googely eye ship thingy

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yes, nice avatar!



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actually the game has 47 missions ( 43 campaign + 4 bonus)
but i think the set will be of 45 campaign + 15 bonus.

still 13 missions, some new ships and the end sequence. (it will be like the intro i think) and the game will be 100% done.



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after years of inactivity, i changed my www, just to set for upload ESF.

i lost any chance to modify my old www, if you're in Italy, you know Virgilio + xoom + chiave unica = great pain and all the xoom sites "andati a puttane", "lost". very angry for this!!

so i switched on Libero. you can use ftp, it's free, and i placed all the files to download on mediafire.

my site is really minimalist, with only green/black colours.



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New web is looking good for a start

Daedalus class is looking great too, while the other ship pictured just above looks out of place for the current game looking.
Anyway I'm sure that if you model it you'll be giving it your own flavour

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oh well, the daedalus is only a bonus ship, and yes it's on the line of the other ships about texture.

Kazon ship will not be included for sure! to odd for my game.

i haven't any special care for my web, it's only for letting people download my games, so it's a very essential html page with download links.



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making the final rush for the last 2 missions....

BTW, this is the Daedalus, another bonus ship.





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Big news:

c.campbell, a nice woman coming from wales, and here in Italy as english teacher, agreed to help me translating missions text from italian to english. no broke english this time!



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Daedalus is nice, although I'm missing the windows of the command center or something like that.
Also I'm afraid that the bottom-rear part looks like a spray can, sorry
To solve this, for example, I would push to the front the big cylinder of the 'spray can', that way the tip would point to the inside, instead of pointing to the outside. No big deal, just an idea, after all this is just one design, and you got a lot of them.

Quote: "...agreed to help me translating missions text from italian to english"

Nice, remember to take care of everything, like the hud and even the web, not only the mission text, although I understand that is the main thing to focus on

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well the original Daedalus it's also a "spray can". i don't think i change it, it's only a bonus ship and it's about useless in the game .

yes i will take care of all the english txt in the game, and web, if mrs Campbell will agree to continue this work!

i wasn't aware my english for the hud is broke... i will control.

and yes.. i forgot the windows of the command centre for the daedalus...



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a wip inside a wip....

this will be the "terminator" or the "schwarzenegger" class, TBA





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a shot from Kabat, home planet of the kabellarian


and yes, italian version...



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Quote: "the original Daedalus it's also a "spray can"."

Ooops, I forgot you were re-creating the original model

Quote: "i wasn't aware my english for the hud is broke... i will control."

I think I saw a couple of things in the running game, apart from the mission text, that were not too much 'standard' english and called my eyes, but I could be wrong. Little details in any case.

The 'schwarzenegger' class looks great, elaborated. I bet it must have doubled the amount of polygons of the other ships.

And that Kabat system looks cool too. Although you should be able to include anytime, for example, some normal maps for the ships.
[Edit: Oh wait, already included?]

I see two blue lights in front of the 1st plane ship, is that a new detail or have I been missing it?

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first, thanks for your comments.

then, about blue light: they are ghost fading objects, slowly flashing. not a new detail, but the old system has only fixed ghosted object,now lights are flashing as i said before.
esf has blue light, kab has red light, and so on.

normal maps: well, actually i haven't any idea of what a normal map is and how to work with it. i've downloaded xnormal, i've created a normal map, but i'm sure i'm not good with this things because it's useless (the normal map).
and it's really botherous to apply fx every sync to keep the fx effects working. thanks TGC... i'm sure this is a last minute cumbersome adjustment to let nvidia fx works with dbpro.

so,i only have diffuse map.

normal, bump, etc, are things i've to study at, and it will not implemented in this game for sure! because some ships are texturized with 2 or more texture file, and with a ship of 100 object i don't want to become mad texturing one by one, and remember i've about 120 ships actually.

i'll make some study about this after the game is complete, for my next works, so i will have normal texture (maybe... i believe fx things are a nightmare) and dark phy working abilityes to make a new game, like a car smash arena.



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not complete yet. she need some details at the back side of the engine section.





the plates are ABLATIVE ARMOUR



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Do you reckon it's a good idea to use ST ships and technology? :/ Just worried about copyright issues there.

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i'm not bothered about that, daedalus is a bonus ship, you must unlock the mission, complete this mission, and if you want ,waste your credits to purchase a space wreck like this. it is never mentioned in the game this is a star trek ship.

hopefully there isnt copiright for jupiter's planet map,or for the sun, or for using the word "starship" etc etc.

BTW, i was too much happy, i believe english teacher will not translate/correct my game, i haven't any reply, and it's about 2 weeks.



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i'm starting the final retouchs of the game.

reflections:





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