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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 29th Jul 2004 17:39
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No, everything he's posted has been deleted.


I came, I saw and I forgot all about it... or something...
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woo nice terrain TGC

i just hope that the "basic" pack will be included as part of DBP from now on, the incomplete "make terrain" commands will be removed, and that the matrix commandset will BURN IN HELL. SURELY you know that having three terrain commandsets in the same language is redundant and confusing especially when one isn't even complete.

and don't give me any of that "backwards compatibility" rhetoric!


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Mike Johnson
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There's no point removing old commands in case people are still using them. We could end up taking functionality out and then get loads of complaints about it. Better to leave them in and encourage everyone to use the new commands from the expansion pack.

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the matrix command set is still cool

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Posted: 1st Aug 2004 13:04 Edited at: 1st Aug 2004 13:04
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Quote: "There's no point removing old commands in case people are still using them. We could end up taking functionality out and then get loads of complaints about it. Better to leave them in and encourage everyone to use the new commands from the expansion pack.
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I couldn't agree more. No sense in having to keep reprogramming everytime something is considered "obselete".
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The Matrix commands are still one of the easiest and quickest ways to get terrain going, they're great for newbies and people who just want a landscape to test ideas on. The new terrain commands require heightmaps and need a lot more setting up.


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plus you can animate a matrix in realtime to simulate water, not something that would be practicle with a terrain.

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Quote: " plus you can animate a matrix in realtime to simulate water, not something that would be practicle with a terrain."


Once the object vertex manipulation commands are in place (ie. TGC have fully tested and enabled them), then you will be able to do this kind of thing with a terrain.


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Posted: 3rd Aug 2004 22:38 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2004 23:20
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Oh dear,why did i try this!! I activated it,but when i now try to run any dbpro project it asks for the advanced terrain order key!damn!I even tried to uninstall the damn thing..How can i manually delete it??
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NM,fortunately for myself i had backedup the whole dbpro dir onto my slave drive

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Carlitos
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Is there a way to get the center of the Terrain to be the origin, my game(Spy Hunter:Lawless) is almost complete, except with the terrain bit, and I need terrain to get replaced ahead of the player to create an ininite road. I was wondering if there is a function or something to center the origin, so I only have to make 2 terrains(one straight and another curved) then I could just rotate the curved one around and position it.



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Hmm, lookks like it could be good... Any idea why it is really dark on my system? Almost totaly black. There are a few patches I can see, but it is mostly a black blob I'm walking on.
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Ok, I've sussed out that in windowed mode or full screen windowed mode it is REALLY dark even with ambient light set to max. In Full screen exclusive mode it looks great. At last the terrains which were promised on release of Pro!! But is anyone else getting the dark problem in windowed mode? It's just that although the graphics are a little blurry in these modes, they are the only ones that are significantly faster than DB classic.
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Mike Johnson
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DVader - what version of DB Pro are you running? You may get a problem if you're running an older version. Make sure you're in 5.4 or above.

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Version 5.5
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Mike Johnson
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Can you send me a screenshot by email so I can see the results you're getting - mike@thegamecreators.com. Thanks.

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For those that remember my Newton terrain demo, I've now got it working with full-size terrains!



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http://walaber.com/misc/NDBterrain.rar

also, a new version of the wrapper (with this functionality) is available at my website http://walaber.com

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Does anyone know if the free version of the terrain expansion is meant to support screen resolutions of greater than 640 by 480?

All works well for 640/480 but if I use anything higher the program crashes and I get an error regarding memory which could not be read...

I'm running version 5.5, on an Athlon XP2600+ with 1GB RAM and 256MB FX5900 SP so it seems odd to imagine it may be a hardware problem?

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It is a bug with using set display mode not the actual resolution. It will run at any resolution I have tried as long as you change it in the editor and not use set display mode.

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It will work in higher res. Here is an experiment of mine with some atmosphere and a reflection plane to simulate water.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 09:51
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BTW a decent system will run this at 50+ fps. Mine is a SIS powered laptop.
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That would make a wicked cool fishing game.

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Posted: 15th Aug 2004 00:07 Edited at: 15th Aug 2004 00:07
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Are we able to register yet? I entered the info on your website and did not get a response e-mail.

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Yes, it should be working - could be a spam filter on your computer getting in the way.


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Walaber - looking very good! I might use Newton in Merc 2 for some tasty physics effects I can imagine it now, piled up crates with a Jeep smashing through them

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If anyone wants to test some reflective water on there system just throw this code in at about line 43




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Hi there!!
just a question...
I installed on a PC the extension pack & activated it.
After that, I get the files into the "Compiler" folder & put it on my PC (Where I work for my game & that hasn't an Internet connection).
When Dbpro have been launched, I get the message that the triel has expired.

Do someone knows how to activate the extension pack on a machine that hasn't internet installed on it???

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im new to darkbasic an all that stuff, but what is 'newton'

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Newton link

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=30123&b=5

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Hi all!
I have nearly the same problem as Vues3d on Kalimee in that I have installed & activated the expansion. However when I try to use the compiler I get a crash to windows xp error. Anyone else have this problem or (better yet) a solution? Any suggestions appreciated.

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I have it now, (had to go through "my computer" to get to .exe file - just in case anyone else has this problem).

BTW, It is incredible!! Plus package is a definite MUST BUY!!
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could someone explain me this command please???

Quote: "SET TERRAIN TEXTURE Terrain ID, Base Image, Detail Image
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- Terrain ID... OK
- Base image... OK
- Detail Image ... (?????) is this something similar Bump map??

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The detail image is a reasonably big seamless texture that is repeated over your terrain to give the knobbly details that we've waited so long for .

It should also be greyscale.


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isn't that what a bump map does?


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when is the plus version of this coming out anyway?

how do you make a .dbt file do you need some editor? and also how do you make a good heightmap+texture.

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Colin F. asked this: " Is the texture.bmp rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise compared with the map.bmp in the demo?"

I am fairly certain that it is. I finally got my matrix converted to a heightmap and my objects aren't loading in the proper places. I think the bitmap is ninety degrees off of the plotted value. I'm not certain. My objects aren't loading in correctly. If anyone knows the answer, please let us know. I'm going to try a few tests but it would be nice to have some verification.

By the way, my FPS is comparable to the matrix system for some reason but the detail and look is awesome! So I'm going to continue working with this.

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Is there a release date for the plus version yet? Any new features announced?

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i dunno if anyone else gets this, but windowed + maximised i get a great framerate, but if i rennder at 1024x768x32 it is extremely slow and laggy, something like 10-20 fps at its best.

is there any way to solve this, or is the problem my computer. (somehow i find this unlikley...)

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I'm surprised - 1024x768 should be faster than lower resolutions. Do you have anti-aliasing on, in the nVidia Control Panel ?


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Hi walaber,

The demo is fantastic. Would you mind posting the code, or perhaps how you went about getting that done?

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D'oh, disregard that. Just got the full latest Newton package. Time to have fun

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Can someone please tell me the settings needed on the terrain id to make the same size terrain as one i have just created in Geoscape. I am not sure what scaling to use.

Also by making a bitmap 512x512 or bigger along with its texture will this in turn make a bigger terrain?
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Yes, it will.

To scale a terrain, change the scale values when you're creating it. To make it the same size as your geoscape terrain, just load them both up and play with the values until it's right.

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If your geoscape terrain is 1000 x 1000 in the GS editor and the exported heightmap is 512x512..


Units per pixel X = 1000 / 512 = 1.95 units per pixel

so scale X = 1.95

same for Z values

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Ack! I'm not sure that would be a good idea. Generally, scaling using a float like that will probably make you lose texture or height data.

I don't know much about GeoScape, but if you can set it to 1024 instead of 1000, that would be much better as you can scale your height map by a whole number (2).

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Quick question, why does this keep crashing the advanced terrain:


whenever i call it from within the main loop? it always comes up with and error that says "Failed to build Terrain". could someone explain it and how to fix it?

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Works here in DBP 5.6 beta 2


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There is bug in terain installer. It installs into default directory. If you install DBPro in other dir, then you must manualy copy installed terrain pack.

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Hhhhmmm, that's weird. I have DB Pro istalled to:

Quote: "Crogram FilesThe Game CreatorsDark Basic Pro"


And the AVT Plugin installed fine.

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I have installed DBPRO in default dir, then I uninstall it, install it into C:\DBPro\ and plugins installs into default dir.

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Oh I see. Must be a problem with the DB Pro uninstaller.

TGC released a program that clears the entire registry of DB Pro values. Grab it from: http://betafiles.thegamecreators.com/dbpro/dbpro_removereg.zip.

I don't know if this will work, but it's worth a try. Make sure you run it after you uninstall DB Pro of course.

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