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The admiral
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You continue to impress me if it plays well then you could be looking at a nice little money earner here even if its only a inital buy the game type cost.

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Sergey K
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yeah well mabye ill earn some money off this game
but the game play will be free, dont worry.

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Looking like teh Awesome, just one basic sugetion- cap the number of letters in a caracters name at 10, so there name doesn't go outside the box .

again, looks really great.

hmm... Do I spy an fps of 27?

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wow 27 fps seems low if that's on a p4 my p3 won't cope with it

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Quote: "Looking like teh Awesome, just one basic sugetion- cap the number of letters in a caracters name at 10, so there name doesn't go outside the box"

thanks. ill fix that.


Quote: "hmm... Do I spy an fps of 27?"

lemme tell you guys why 27 fps:
- DBP Server is UP
- 3D Max is UP
- MSN is UP
- and TWO clients are opened.

all of those programs taking hell of CPU and ram and all of them opened.

normaly, i getting around 110FPS offline, and 80FPS Online

btw, the average fps in WoW, is 20

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Sergey K
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New Update:
the trade nick that goes over the box has fixed.

New Animations!
- Left and Right Side animations
for each player.

now when the Woman goes forward/side her hair is moving a lil forward and backward with the wind.

new area added!
i added v. huge area! so far, if you trying to walk from one to other side of the map, it will take more than 7 minuts.

18 of 106 done.
88 stuff to go.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2006 14:47 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2006 14:47
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Quote: "btw, the average fps in WoW, is 20"


Deffinately higher om my computer

This game seems to come along very nicely. Keep up the good job!

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Looking mighty snazzy GogetaX, well done, you really have come far.

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Quote: "Deffinately higher om my computer"

i have taked some random shots from google, and as i see, the FPS is always around 20

here is one shot i found just now:
http://images.mmorpg.com/images/screenshots/042005/3018.jpg

anyhow, who cares about WoW

btw,
i just want you guys to know that i am using 2 plugins for the game
the FTP Client and the Free DBP Plugin with random stuff.
they are v. helpful for me in da game

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Chris Franklin
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WoW mlooks awesome make a mmorpg like that

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Quote: "WoW mlooks awesome make a mmorpg like that"

errr.. just remind me how many people worked on WoW? i would say around 200+?
cuz im working alone!!

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i think uare doing a good job and you game looks better than wow at the moment anyway

you think you are good at programing w8 until you go to microsoft then you will get showen how to realy program
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Quote: "i think uare doing a good job and you game looks better than wow at the moment anyway"

haha i think i gonna save that text somewhere. or ill put that text on desktop

thanks for the comment

does anyone else thinks the same?

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Quote: "i think uare doing a good job and you game looks better than wow at the moment anyway"


ROFL!!! If you think that you must be to the edge of crazy...

Now Gogetax don't think I ment this as putting down your project! This project is one of the best projects I've seen ever made in DBPRO! But really... Saying it looks better than WoW is to overstate it...

So warship45... You think BlueLight looks better than something like this?:

http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/screenoftheday/horde-alliance-mixer.jpg
http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/screenoftheday/mauradon-falls.jpg
http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/screenoftheday/hot-springs.jpg

Oh well... Keep updating the game gogetax! And yes... I'm done talking about WoW now

Could you maybe provide us with new screenshots of the game?

Looking forward to the demo!

I just had to laugh

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The Nerd, you have to ruin all, dont you?


about new shots, i dont know what to make shot off..
cuz atm i am working on inventory stuff like Item Gives and Requires of the items..

nothng specialy
but ill make some new shots once ill make some good objects.

btw, new update:
- Now once you will equip items, you will will get item's status to your self (like HP: +10, Def: +4 etc.)
- if you will equip Shoes/Boots with effect of RUNNING, you will be able to run and not to walk.
- new animation added: RUNNING and about the woman, once she is running, her hair moving.

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The Nerd
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Quote: "The Nerd, you have to ruin all, dont you?"


What did I ruin?

I said your project is one of the best I've seen... And that's true.

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no, the part with the WoW.

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Oh...

Well... I would say that it's just to overstate the project... But it's still nice to get a comment like that! Well... Let's continue this thread talking about BlueLight without starting a 10 page discussion about WoW

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Wow does look neat tho just likethis game now i have to update my wip thread

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INVENTORY VIDEO
i have made a small video that i made using fraps
i know, the program is sux and makes v. big files
but i converted the fraps avi's to MPG file. so i decreased from 900MB to 18MB video size (lol)

in da game, you guys will see 20FPS only, but its only because of FRAPS! the fps was around 80.

anyhow, take a look at the chat - im writing there some stuff that i gonna do in next step..

so here is the video:
http://81.86.120.81/gogetax/Videos/Inventory.mpg - 18MB (.mpg)

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GogetaX, I have just watched the video and i must say the level of professionalism is stunning. Great game and i look forward to playing the demo, when you release it.


BTW is the finished game going to be freeware or shareware?
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it will be free.
but ill make some stuff payable
like if you want another milion of gold or SUPER good item, you will have to buy in real money =]

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free!
I would pay for something this good
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Chris Franklin
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one problem with ips when you switch your pc off so will the vid

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Quote: "one problem with ips when you switch your pc off so will the vid
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so you are happy eh?

actually, i got a place where i can put the server ON 24/7 (all the time)!!

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lol o well

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oh btw, do u want me to make you more jealous?
i did that so you will be able to open few servers of the game with same account
so once u will open up the server, it will automaticly registred in the server list in the launcher.

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*cough*compression please*cough*

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i think from 900MB to 18MB is compressed enough. dont you think so?

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i made 90mb to 1mb

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i made:
- 1 minut and two seconds
- 1024x768 screen size
- SAME VIDEO QUALITY

and you made all smaller..
and if fraps did you 90MB, then it means u made somehting like 15 seconds movie..

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um correction 30 seconds

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Quote: "um correction 30 seconds"

then how come that i did 1 minut and you 30 seconds, and i got 900MB and u only 90MB? (and we using same program)
i think its because the video size.. your video size is smaller.

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well i've gota sleep ya know don't know about you cya greatgame

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So when can we test a demo out?

[EDIT]
Also, can you give me a peek of the code to see eachother. I know how to chat I have that code, I just am wondering how to see eachother through the server. Or, could you atleast tell me what to do to get started?

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errr.. its not that easy Drew. its over 700 lines of code.

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pretty cool man

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This game is looking cool. (I wont mention the WoW thing...)

But:

Quote: "like if you want another milion of gold or SUPER good item, you will have to buy in real money =]"


That would ruin the game 100%. You should earn money yourself, and you shouldn't have to buy anything. Blizzard actually BANS every user that's connected to trading of WoW gold and items for real money... Besides, if you HAVE to buy the supergood items, then what's the point in the game, if you have to pay to get better?

EDIT: BTW, is this game PvP or EvP focused?


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That would ruin the game 100%. You should earn money yourself, and you shouldn't have to buy anything. Blizzard actually BANS every user that's connected to trading of WoW gold and items for real money... Besides, if you HAVE to buy the supergood items, then what's the point in the game, if you have to pay to get better?
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but i want to get SOME money out of it. but if someone got any better suggestions to me to make that game free and i also will get money from the game in anyway, i would like to hear.

Quote: "EDIT: BTW, is this game PvP or EvP focused?"

err.. well there is PvP and EvP in da game, but its not only stuff that you can do in the game.
u also can do quests and tasks and stuff..

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there is pleanty of ways of getting money, the main ways i've found is:
A.) advertising on your game, so much per month..
B.) selling merchandise, e.g. cafepress.com
c.) get a publisher to buy your game
d.) paypal donations
e.) i gotta go here i'll prob fill this in later when i get back.. tommorow


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so i guess the "donations" is the best idea here eh?
and i want to make the game free to play also..

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Hello GogetaX,

nice work done so far. But there is something that I am wondering about:

You said somewhere in your first posts, that the clients "talk" directly to every other client, is this correct?
Or does the server handle every client message, and then sends it over to the rest?

If the first is the case, then what are you going to do against cheaters? Anyone could just change the local character, and then send it to the others. I know its possible, some people can even write cheat-programs that will do this for you

Have you already thought about that problem? If not, it may be valuable to early start thinking about it... as it might turn out later to be very complicated to change all the code to make it cheat-safe.
I don't think I have to stress the fact that cheaters can really ruin an online game, and no one will want to play it if there is a chance that the other player obtained their items/gold by cheating...


So what do you think about this?

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Well if I remember correctly his game is made with Tempest
Which is a P2P type connection so that means that every client is connnected to each other..


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Quote: "You said somewhere in your first posts, that the clients "talk" directly to every other client, is this correct?
Or does the server handle every client message, and then sends it over to the rest?"

errr.. i think it was a "normal talk" with others in chat system
like:
yelling, normal talk, whisper and all of those stuff are i chat..


Quote: "If the first is the case, then what are you going to do against cheaters? Anyone could just change the local character, and then send it to the others. I know its possible, some people can even write cheat-programs that will do this for you"

how about ill compile the the media into the exe?

and i dont think that someone who just replacing stuff in media, called a cheater

Quote: "Have you already thought about that problem? If not, it may be valuable to early start thinking about it... as it might turn out later to be very complicated to change all the code to make it cheat-safe.
I don't think I have to stress the fact that cheaters can really ruin an online game, and no one will want to play it if there is a chance that the other player obtained their items/gold by cheating..."


ever heard about GameGuard (GG)? its an unti cheat program that always runs while the game is runs.

and im planning to make something like that for my game.
for example, if ill find that some cheating program is ON, ill make a force close on it (so the cheat program will be closed)
and i also might disconnect the client if that happens..

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I did not mean character model/media, I meant character values, as health points, gold and so on...

As far as I know, any cheat program can be outrun, if the hacker is willing to do so...
Its impossible to make a software secure, UNLESS you control it by / with a remote server.

In my opinion the only way to make a cheat-safe Online Game is to handle all crucial things by the server, and to check the messages of the client in order to detect invalid values.

If you use a peer2peer networking model, then it will be possible to for example write an own client, and change some character data, then start with your client and play the game with the modded character...
Of course.. here it is questionable whether someone really will be dedicating his time into doing this...
However, it is nicer for a player to know, that it is absolutely impossible to cheat on this game, rather than having in the back of his mind, that anyone out there could have retrieved that mighty epic sword, which took hours for you to get it, by just setting some bits in memory....


I just thought that if you address this earlier it is easier than having to take down any new hack program that is coming out with an new anti-cheat prog update...

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well, for those stuff, i think ill make my updater system lil bit smarter
ill check whats the size of the current exe and the size of the exe that should be.(as you know that once u will change a value/string, the file size in bytes wont be the same anymore)
if it will find out that the sizes are not the same, it will update the new exe right on my Update server.
hows that?



btw, new update:
now once you disconnected, the client will count 15 seconds and he will try to reconnect again.
also, fixed around errr.. 5 bugs.

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lol well i won't pay for stuff in the game so i think it's like a bit of a let down now

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Well where did you learn how to do that. Is there anything at all you could show me so I can do that?

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I say go the Guild Wars route and just have a small fee to buy the game like 5 dollars or 10 in America (although you're in Russia are you not so I'm presuming Euros) and then make it free to play after purchase.

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Quote: "@ Goga
Well where did you learn how to do that. Is there anything at all you could show me so I can do that?

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do what?


Quote: "although you're in Russia are you not so I'm presuming Euros"


but in israel, but im russian


so is that all of your suggestions about the paying thingy?
errr.. lemme think of it

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