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FPSC Classic Work In Progress / Pointless Assault

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RickV
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Brilliant level design! This inspires the TGC team to bring you more features!!!

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This is by far the best level design I've seen with FPS Creator. Great job.
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@RickV thank you

@mccb still lots of work to be done not happy with the current tetures and some of the lightmapping...guess I'll never be happy...

the wall textures does need some reworking...don't like it...but we will see all in good time what happens...
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Posted: 29th Nov 2006 21:28 Edited at: 28th Dec 2006 20:21
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Well some new screenshots changed ligthmapping "little" and some new stuff







this is some of the textures got a great libary setup now...pity I can't use all of them.

Metal texture I'm planing to use on the default metal stairs, still have to find a ceiling texture and a floor texture...
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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 21:23 Edited at: 5th Dec 2006 22:30
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a very small video

http://w11.easy-share.com/702735.html

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wizard of id
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Has any one downloaded the video and what are your view please??
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I think the level design in that video was awsome.

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Freaking awesome level desing. Enemy AI looked to work correctly. I can't wait to play demo or something.

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a 1 min video


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Really nice screens; I like your use of curved segments; it really helps to break up the usual "boxy" looks of many FPSC levels. I'm downloading the second video now (dial-up).

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@KeithC Good luck on the download I uploaded it on a "dialup" lol

A Lot of people seem to like the level design...well there are still a few tweaks to make mabye change the grate texture a little.

I'm pretty impressed with the way the blue lightmapping worked out took awhile to get it just right.The red lightmapping from the grates just didn't make the cut.It didn't make that fall off the blue lightmapping is making now...

Curved segments you should see what I did with the second part of the level that I'm tweaking now...this is not done 100% but the basic layout is there......

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Looks interesting.

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Well here is a demo I did a while back nothing special no sound background music standard menu ect...enjoy.This was more or less what I wanted Pointless assault to look like but never used the idea.

http://w10.easy-share.com/704232.html
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Posted: 7th Dec 2006 18:45
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There has been 11 downloads so far I guess not to bad.For those who downloaded what's is your view so far.
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Nice map and expansive but to many slow running sections. To much looks the same. And cinderblock thats suposedly 2.5ft wide bug me to death. With your level design being tops the unrealistic textures make this look like a indie game, which is a shame because you've put alot of work in it. I also noticed a few sections that you didn't bother covering up/cleaning up the bleeding sections where you get the texture flash. Thats another point that makes this look like an indie game to me.

I know this doesn't say much good about your creation but I think you'd rather have me point out the things that can be improved upon rather then giving you an "atta-boy". I know thats the way I feel, but 90% of the guys around here will just coddle you and that doesn't help at all.
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@Locrian cool thanks mate like I said this isn't the demo for Pointless assault but more an idea level....From the video from real pointless assault demo a lot more work went it to it
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You inspire me... lol.

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Quote: "You inspire me... lol."
@bdgbdg is that suppose to be light hearted or sarcastic........
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I'm saying the truth... I'm not having much inspiration but this is REALLY inspiring me...

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Posted: 10th Dec 2006 19:01 Edited at: 10th Dec 2006 19:06
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Well I said I was going to change the textures.Well had to change the lightmapping as well test level I'm not sure I'm happy with the end result might tweak it a little more.



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Lightmapping looks really good.

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Posted: 10th Dec 2006 20:10
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@Nigezu...Lightmapping is not the problem texturing is...
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Well, the textures aren't that bad either. You would scale down those floor slabs though.

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@Nigezu I might try another floor texture....Got plenty to choose from.....
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it looks good if you ask me.


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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 22:22 Edited at: 20th Dec 2006 22:27
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So I updated to RC8 and this is what I came up with...pretty happy with the overall look will have to add a few more static objects get the shadows to look even better.Well the previous light mapper "leaked" the light mapping so I got the effects I wanted with the grates..which sadly I don't get any more and had to come up with another plan.Doesn't give the same effect but still looks okay...I guess.The light mapping might need to change because of the new light mapper but we will see all in good time.

By the way thanks LEE for the great great update to FPScreator.





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Splendid mate, keep it up

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Well so I played around with new settings and this is the final design...Some small tweaking required but this will be the final layout for the level.







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some new updated screenies Light mapping changed a bit from previous version because of the new lightmapper




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Very good. Keep it up, and you can end up with an 8.9/10 on Gamespot. Looks sorta XBOX360 worthy.

Keep it up, mate. 15/10 for all your work. Haven't seen the videos or the demo, though. You ever thought about uploading the videos to Youtube? I hear Youtube has an FPSC video section.

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Added some model pack 3 things.Lightmapping does need a tad more adjustment and it will be perfect....







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Well, still looks good. Although, I don't know why you want to have over-the-top perfect lighting, though. Just get it done and over with, or else you'll end up with your computer blown in half, with all the wires showing and....

OK, I'm done.

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Like I said I might change textures.Well I did.This should really be the last texture change.Your view on this would be great.



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Again some outstanding screen grabs and kudos on the lighting, a fine effort.


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Wizard of Id, you have some OUTSTANDING work there! But, uhhhh.....why are you so concerned about lightmaps? A few games don't even bother with it!

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Quote: "Wizard of Id, you have some OUTSTANDING work there! But, uhhhh.....why are you so concerned about lightmaps? A few games don't even bother with it!"
Better graphics makes a better overall game...Some thing has to make up for the lack of "GOOD" AI....Besides if you haven't noticed by now I am a lightmapping freak.....
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Quick question guys with which wall/ceiling/floor texture should I go with from these screenshots.
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Reminds me of FEAR quite a bit...very nice level there Wizard of id!

Its just a pity that built game have those annoying lightmap problems.

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Everything is 10/10 but always the FPSC ai stops the perfectness. You walked past many ai npcs that did nothing. Can't blame you for it though.

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Quote: "Reminds me of FEAR quite a bit...very nice level there Wizard of id!

Its just a pity that built game have those annoying lightmap problems.

AE"


Well I don't have any problems what so ever with the latest RC 9 release(mabye one tiny problem with NPC's but you won't even notice it).The only other problem I have is when I build the game with full lightmapping I end up with no shadows so I only use soft lightmapping.
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Well slowly but surely every thing is coming back togehter.







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Quote: "Better graphics makes a better overall game"

Better gameplay makes a better game.
There are quite a few games with really impressive graphics that suck.
I like the pics...and you did a good job on the lighting.

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Quote: "Better gameplay makes a better game."
True But both go hand in hand.
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@ wizard of id

SCENERY GOD!!!! You are really good with the entities.

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SCENERY GOD!!!! You are really good with the entities."
Nah I wish I was better at scenery....
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well what can I say working with two version of the level still have to see which one I will be using.
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Why're those red markers there? They're hurt zones, right?

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Wow, that's alot of lights!

Can i ask how long a test level takes to load?

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Quote: "Wow, that's alot of lights!

Can i ask how long a test level takes to load?

AE"


Thanks to my dual core well within 4 mins.But lately I found the test levels to be slow, AI some how slows down the fames in the test mode but runs perfectly well during a final build...so go figure.

Well the current level has 755 light objects.Besides that every part of the level will have between 30000 and 60000 polys on screen at any given time.The might be a slight frame drop here and there but thats caused by AI once killed it jumps right back.

Quote: "Why're those red markers there? They're hurt zones, right?"
Well it's a good place to put them because if you deside to go all suicidal on me and jump off the platform you won't be stuck two level down.
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