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Richard Davey
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Hi all,

The Advanced Terrain Expansion Pack for DarkBASIC Professional 5.4+ is now available. We are not officially releasing it until early next week because it requires you to register it on-line within 7 days of installation and that system isn't totally live yet. But we are confident enough that it will be ready within the 7 days limit that we can give you the download link here and you can use it in "trial" mode until then. Please note: "trial mode" doesn't disable or stop anything from happening at all, it's just the term we use internally for an un-registered product.

Grab the EXE file here:

http://files.thegamecreators.com/darkbasicprofessional/packs/Terrain_Expansion_Pack_Standard.exe

You need DBPro 5.4 installed to use this - and you will need to activate it on-line after installation.

If you find bugs, report them in the Bug Board, not in this thread.

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Yay

Downloading now.

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Wow, it's really amazing! Really beautiful terrains and Fast. I was getting a steady 20-30 FPS on this integrated intel extreme rubbish, on the demo.


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Okay, I'm probably wrong here somewhere:

- Have 5.4
- Activated online
- Install terrain pack
- Run example

and it doesn't recognise "make object terrain".

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You have to activate the plugin, go into the DBPro Compiler folder, and run TGCOnlineTrial.exe.

Don't enter anything in the email address or password boxes, just click next and it will generate a certificate that is valid for 7 days.


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Posted: 10th Jul 2004 04:40 Edited at: 10th Jul 2004 04:44
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Okay - I was trying to find an active link somewhere


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Working now. Absolutely incredible. Most likely I'll be buying it.

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Remember you get this one for free

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how come you have to activate it as a trial?

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It's a corker! That Johnson fella knows his stuff.

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hmm, i have Advenced terrain installed, but where is some demo ?

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Quote: "Remember you get this one for free "


Lol, sorry. I must be getting confused

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f*cking hell - that demo, well it can't be knocked
and you say its free?
*preys to the god of cyberspace*
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wtf ? FREE? LOL ... I have TRIAL DBPRO, but ... when is trial expired, i can activate again hmmm, nic piracy protection.... or is spite ?

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This is great, looks similar to far cry terrains. only thing i want to know is how you made the texture for it?

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wtf ? where is demo ??? pllsssss

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General - the demo is in the Help\Advanced Terrain folder. You can also see a link to it in the start menu.

Game wiz - I created the base texture from 4 separate textures and put them in the texture generator using the plus version of terrain.

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I suppose that there will be keyword files with the proper release

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plus version?
is there going to be another version which you have to pay for?

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Yes the plus version will be sold. That has several extra features in.

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hmm, Can i use ex: 2 detail maps for different parts of terrain?

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Quote: "Yes the plus version will be sold. That has several extra features in."


Ah, that's what I'm thinking of then.

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for how much?

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Quote: "But we are confident enough that it will be ready within the 7 days limit that we can give you the download link here and you can use it in "trial" mode until then."


those will be in the next issue of the newletter as 'famous last words'
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lol

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just wondering, is there any help files for this. Otherwise this is wicked, good work and my checkbook is waiting for that plus version.
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Look in the start menu.

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This is freaking fabulous. And great timing. I've been trying to do something like this in the last couple of days and now it's possible in five minutes. Thanks, TGC Team.

Hmm, we'll have to pay for the plus version? Sounds fair. It will probably contain the new universe commands. But I hope that the multiple UV's are not exclusive for that upgrade.

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Arg, not on my dev computer ... perhaps an .exe demo could be uploaded some time?

Congrats on the release TGC.


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Forgive me if I missed something, but how is the terrain/camera collision handled, I could not find any collision commands...? And yet, you can walk up and down all over the terrain. Is this an automatic thing associated with the new terrain features. I think I will certainly be buying the advanced terrain plus, if it is the right price.

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Is the texture.bmp rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise compared with the map.bmp in the demo?
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Wow...

Just...wow. Will definately get the plus version when its released (unless...I'm lucky at the TGC banner comp).

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Gazzaden: There is no collision being checked against the terrain. In the demo the command GET TERRAIN HEIGHT is being used to check the height of the camera's current position on the terrain. Much like you would use in the Matrix and the old terrain commands.

One thing I'll have to check is how compatible this is with Nuclear Glory's Collision DLL. I don't think they'll like each other very much but I hope I'm wrong.

-EDIT-

As I suspected, NCG DLL doesn't work with this type of objects :s The program runs normally but no collision is active on the terrain. Hopefully NCG will be able to take care of this at no extra charge

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Terrain seems familiar well er Geoscape3d'ish
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Very very very cool!!!

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How is it that the main commands are not blue like key commands in DBPro?? They not been put in the key list yet??

Just wondering

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Been playing with the new commands and all i can say is WOW. Although i do have one one question.

I placed a transparent water plain in the demo landscape using an FX shader to make a lake. Looks great, but it culls the lake bed underneath, I can see the underside of the sky box through the top of the lake but not the lake bed. If i move below the waterline i can see the lake bed but none of the terrain above the waterline, just the skybox!

I guess my question is, can an object be prevented from culling the terrain? if so, how?
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fantastic stuff!!! very beautiful terrains!

and even cooler is that it seems to work with Newton well! here's a screenshots of Newton spheres bouncing around a new terrain object:


EXE DOWNLOAD: http://walaber.dbspot.com/misc/newton_terrain.rar

the only issue seems to be with the size of the terrain. I tried a heightmap of 128x128, but DBPro crashes on either the make mesh from object or make memblock from mesh command. if the heightmap is 64x64 (like in this demo), it works great (no matter what you set the set terrain tiling command to - in this case 4)

will there be a way in the future to get the mesh data for higher resolution terrains? I think the problem must lie in the limitation for mesh/memblock sizes?

i think one solution would be to have a make meshes from terrain command. this would make a set of consecutive meshes from each terrain mesh. for example, if the terrain is 8x8 meshes, the command would generate 64 different meshes (with consecutive mesh numbers)

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Quote: "It's a corker! That Johnson fella knows his stuff."


Why thank you. Oh... you meant Mike.


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wow, sounds really nice.
Great work

Walaber, that demo with Newton in it is really awesome, on my PC ( really old and slow ), I got a constant 30FPS

Just one Query, With the Plus version of the Terrain expansion pack, will there be a type of trial, so that we can see what extra commands we get, and if we will need them or not.
Would be a shame to fork out $20 ( not much admittedly, but I'm cheap ) to find that I'll never use the commands.

Jess.

[EDIT]
Hmm, after installing and gaining the 7 day trial certificate, I still cannot compile, it asks me to register the Plug-in again, but doesn't give me an option for the trial this time.
And now I cannot compile anything without the message coming up, and with no uninstall, it makes it hard...
Damn.
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[EDIT 2]
Never mind, after installing 5.5, I did the online verification registration thing-o and all is well now
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DDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN!!!! Are you messed up with licenses??? After registering trial Advanced Terrain - DBPRO trial dissapears!!! Compiler refuses to work! Before AT installations i had 27 days left...
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Is the texture.bmp rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise compared with the map.bmp in the demo?


(C:/Program Files\Dark Basic Software\Dark Basic Professional\Help\Advanced Terrain\Media)
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Hmm, is there a keywords.ini file anywhere for this? That would be required to make the IDE keywords blue...

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i havent seen an ini file yet

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Found a bug, you cannot hide the induvidual limbs of the terrain because the auto camera hiding/showing whether it is in the camera's path or not takes priority over hide limb.


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heh, walaber you are very playfull .. :o) whenever will be new release of newton wrapper, walaber ?

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edit: did you now that you can re-register it?

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I'll get Mike to confirm, but I'm very sure it will not work with any trial version of DBPro, full activated releases only.

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Can anyone provide an insight into the "Set Terrain Scale" and "Get Terrain X/Z Size()" Commands? What are you scaling the terrain from? And are the Get Terrain Size commands supposed to just return what you've scaled the terrain to? How would i scale it so that it was 5000x5000 DB units for instance? Other than that its very impressive, i forsee lots of compo entries having lots of stunning scenery

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Keeps telling me that Ikernel cannot be installed, lol.
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Ok, This may be known, but Set Display Mode causes a crash and the win xp "sorry" message. Tried it on the example file, with same results. Also noticed the error file was put in the media folder on the example run, so guess it goes where dir is set. -JerBil

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PathToEXE=C:\Program Files\Dark Basic Software\Dark Basic Professional\Help\Advanced Terrain\media\CrashOn_07_10_04.txt
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m_dwRuntimeErrorDWORD=0
m_dwRuntimeErrorLineDWORD=33
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