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Nickydude
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Quote: "I wonder will fpscR be compatible with windows7 & 8? I dont mean fpsc compatible but a real compatible like most software are. this is fpsc biggest downfall and what makes it so outdated."


Hopefully this should go without saying.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2012 20:32
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I have run into 0 problems with FPSC on windows 7.

And another thing, is it possible for the date to be extended? Or is it set in stone once the kickstarter is launched, because an extended date may save the day because recently pledges have picked up.

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Quote: "spelt = spelled"


Spelt is English spelling

Spelled is American spelling

calm your breasts and stop picking on him.
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Flatlander
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Posted: 14th Nov 2012 21:38
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Quote: "Spelt is English spelling

Spelled is American spelling"


I thought that but I didn't bother to look it up. American English teachers wouldn't except the spelling. I wasn't even going to bring that one up. So, there technically were only two, Mr. Valentine. I also know what you mean by those cell phones that do not have real keyboards. I'm always hitting the wrong key when it's on the screen. Big fingers I guess.

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MrValentine
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Posted: 14th Nov 2012 21:41
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fat thumbs here lol
I was tired when I replied so did not want to write about it, thanks Thraxas!

Quote: "except"


Accept

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Flatlander
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Posted: 14th Nov 2012 22:43
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Quote: "Quote: "except"

Accept "


Touche! :ROFL:

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Posted: 14th Nov 2012 22:58
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i think tgc should

no matter what, not give up on this.

also they could.

release the stretch goals as add on packages, like model packs.

3rd person pack

rpg pack

particle pack and dynamic shadows pack

etc.

a good price for each one, this will make everyone get their own version and also not make reloaded any weaker but stronger.


i would obviously buy each one. but it would be a waste of them stretch goal ideas.

and reloaded should have a plan b.

there is at least 20,000 to be invested in the project, that is enough to do something, plus i can give more after xmas.

and others will be able to add too, best thing for tgc if this does not come into fruition is send a letter to each of the supporters and ask if they would give the equivalent into tgc account.

this is a set of ideas for tgc to consider should this not get there. too much time as gone into this and too many people are set on this happening, well 280 at the moment.

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Please can someone tell me what would happen if the goal is not reached? sorry but I think it will never reach 60k$ at this pledging rate

Is FPSCR will be canceled? no alternative solutions or other projects to improve our current fpsc?

Thanks to all
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Posted: 15th Nov 2012 23:03 Edited at: 15th Nov 2012 23:04
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I calculate* that roughly about £3,000 per day is now need to reach the goal.



*I may be wrong of course

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Posted: 15th Nov 2012 23:24
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@ nickydude: Kicktraq says we need about $2763 per day to succeed, and that number will probably increase exponentially the next 15 days, if the rate stays current.

Heres my little widget again:



I am starting to be less and less optimistic about this as well, but this project aint over yet, and I aint gonna give up hopes on it.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2012 23:26 Edited at: 15th Nov 2012 23:59
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Wasn't far off.

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The thing is, mathematically, to really actually improve, we would have to actually SURPASS that number every day by a certain amount for it to go down, otherwise if it is just met it will say that every day.

I just don't know of any other sources for where we could get that much more backers to do that... To me it feels like 95 percent of people here have backed already.

I just can't think of anything else to do at this point...

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This isnt going to make it, Id say it needs to pull in NEW customers, it will have to be re thought and the pitch re made to draw a new user base. I suggest you will need new features that are based on its strength, that being ease of use, improve/add to that and fix what was considered broken, with that you will get the current user base and induct new customers to the product.


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Posted: 15th Nov 2012 23:57 Edited at: 15th Nov 2012 23:58
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I have a few new ideas,

1 - Put a link to the kickstarter on the FPSC product page stating, get this AND FPSC:R in one go via supporting the kickstarter...

2 - Approach businesses that invest in innovation or software technologies... [ "Angels" as they are known here A.K.A. "Dragons"]

3 - Approach Educational Institutions, and throw in a few contributing model packs... perhaps even more can be done here...

Debate away...

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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 00:04 Edited at: 16th Nov 2012 00:10
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I suspect there will be a large surge near the end, it may not make it even then but at the very least TGC now know they have many potential sales and if its a good product then that will surely entice many more to purchase.
I cant think of any better incentive for a company to go ahead with a product idea than knowing it has this potential, heck, many companies would pay big bucks for this kind of market research.

They may not get full funding for wages and costs up front but if they were to even take pre-orders they would have a good head start with it.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 00:16
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Quote: "2 - Approach businesses that invest in innovation or software technologies..."


There are businesses that would want to know their "pledge/investment" will amount to something tangible. Not every business will be willing to throw money into an empty hole if expectations fail to live up to the hype. If you want backers to step up, convince them it is a worthwhile investment to them. If they use the software currently, explain to them how pledging/investing would be a benefit to them. If they do not use the software, convince them it is worthy for them to try/use/invest. The problem is that many developments have been put together in a rush that the software has received negativity, so you need to draw on the strengths and work with that.

The other problem for getting businesses to invest is that proper, concise, organized documentation would need to be created. Given they may have more than one or two people using it, documentation always plays a part in purchasing software for business investments. The current documentation is fragmented, disorganized, and not very user-friendly. It is nice to have all these cool bells and whistles, but most businesses don't want to have to scour a forum to attempt to find some piece of help with an issue or how to do something. Having nice, clean, organized documentation (with examples, screenshots, etc) may be a plus.


There's no problem that can't be solved without applying a little scripting.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 00:56
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BlackFox true, but my point was finding companies who were willing to throw a $/£100 punt

[I would if I had been bothered to find more new clients recently..., there's another idea... spread the word guys!

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I hate to say it, but if you want more people to be interested, don't make a video showing off new shaders and such. Make a video showing some faced paced action, explosions and bullets flying. Hell, think Micheal Bay mixed with the Matrix and Call of Duty. People love action and death. Make a promotion video like "Make the next action FPS or the next Survival Horror title of the year!" And then BOOM BLAH PSSSHHH PEW PEW PEW bullets and explosions. People love that. It would make newcomers want to put their money in. And Tell me, why is the kick starter only 30 days? If we had maybe even 15 days more time WE COULD DO THIS.
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I really feel guilty posting this often, it is not intentional, but...

Quote: "
I hate to say it, but if you want more people to be interested, don't make a video showing off new shaders and such. Make a video showing some faced paced action, explosions and bullets flying. Hell, think Micheal Bay mixed with the Matrix and Call of Duty. People love action and death. Make a promotion video like "Make the next action FPS or the next Survival Horror title of the year!" And then BOOM BLAH PSSSHHH PEW PEW PEW bullets and explosions. People love that. It would make newcomers want to put their money in. And Tell me, why is the kick starter only 30 days? If we had maybe even 15 days more time WE COULD DO THIS.
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+1

And it made my erm DAY

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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 01:24 Edited at: 16th Nov 2012 01:26
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Consider this kicktraq article:

http://blog.kicktraq.com/kicktraq-quick-tip-empower-your-backers/

I think that Wicked Blood gaming is correct, that the pitch video could show some more gameplay shots and action filled moments. Maybe even like that X10 tech demo...

And again I also agree that the kickstarter was rushed and a tad too ambitious with the current cimmunity base...

Also this: Why you should take kickstarter trends with a grain of salt.

http://blog.kicktraq.com/why-you-should-take-kicktraq-trends-with-a-grain-of-salt/

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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 03:45 Edited at: 16th Nov 2012 03:47
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So what's to happen with the work thats been done so far on FPSC R. Will it be put into a new build for FPSC? I don't see 60,000 pounds coming within a month.

Also, where is my backer badge? lol ive been asking this in every post.

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60000 British pounds sterling = 95148.0000 US dollars

Almost $100,000 for a kickstarter in 30 days? I'm sorry, and excuse my language but....100,000 My ass. Fpscr deserves it, and I WANT to see this made. But yes, if you want to get this crazy amount, find a way to increase THE DAYS WE HAVE TO GET IT (Why only 30? IS this a kickstarter thing? Find a new website or SOMETHING that allows for more days.) Like I said, put out something that apeals to everyone, get RPG FPS and Horror. Mainly ACTION and HORROR. People will eat it up. Find a way to get it shown to the public, and it will easily BECOME A HIT. WE CAN DO THIS PEOPLE. FPSCR FOREVER. Too much?
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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 05:31 Edited at: 16th Nov 2012 05:32
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@Teabone

Quote: "Also, where is my backer badge? lol ive been asking this in every post."


You're not going to get it by asking here. This is what I had gotten in email:

If you want us to add this icon, please send your full name and forum name to Christine who will add it for you. Her email is: [email protected]

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Posted: 16th Nov 2012 12:22 Edited at: 16th Nov 2012 21:04
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Quote: "60000 British pounds sterling = 95148.0000 US dollars

Almost $100,000 for a kickstarter in 30 days? I'm sorry, and excuse my language but....100,000 My ass. Fpscr deserves it, and I WANT to see this made. But yes, if you want to get this crazy amount, find a way to increase THE DAYS WE HAVE TO GET IT (Why only 30? IS this a kickstarter thing? Find a new website or SOMETHING that allows for more days.) Like I said, put out something that apeals to everyone, get RPG FPS and Horror. Mainly ACTION and HORROR. People will eat it up. Find a way to get it shown to the public, and it will easily BECOME A HIT. WE CAN DO THIS PEOPLE. FPSCR FOREVER. Too much?"


I remember reading something thatsaid that, actually, a higher percentage of projects were funded when they only lasted 30 days. I think thats why they decided to go that route, but I don't really know.

we still have to wait and see...

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The unified shader system looks kick ass!
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I have a question: Will FPSC Reloaded avaible on steam?

you need a script? I need useful requests at the moment!
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=200918&b=23
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Is there any updates yet on the project?

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I think the biggest problem here was the timing of the campaign's launch. It's almost Christmas season, and everyone's going to be spending most of their money on gifts for friends and family. Almost nobody will think of keeping money leftover for this if it doesn't promise to succeed.

Hello one and all...
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Hey there,

better late than never - +150GBP from me.
Guys, let's get this funded!

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I don't use FPSC enough to back this new version, but I definitely hope it goes through.
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I hope TGC doesn't drop FPSCR if the kickstarter fails

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I can't really see this reaching it's goal at this rate. It's pretty sad. Hopefully some billionaire is just trolling us all and puts in enough for all stretch goals at the last minute.

Hello one and all...
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Yeah the same here.

I pledge also 100,00.
I really hope that they gonna make it.
296 backers now!!!!!

There are many more people who uses this.
So, come one people... please pledge...


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I really think they need to keep this project updated some more; I think people are just starting to not pay attention to it, IMO. Maybe it would bring more backers to the scene... I remember not a while ago when they added the parallax video we got a good surge of backers from it...

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In the future there should be another funding project, but TGC shall prepare a lot of more to show off to other people and aswell there shall be better marketing show off.

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I hope they extend the time....

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Quote: "I hope they extend the time....
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They can't.

I just hope that they consider restarting the kickstarter sometime in the near future if it fails... This project is too good to end like this.

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I have hopefully got this plugged on a weekly show, its new but fingers crossed lol, anything can help at this point, and I want to reiterate...

THE KICKSTARTER PLEDGE DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO PAY ANYTHING OUT TODAY, ONLY ON THE FIRST OF DECEMBER, SO IF YOU CAN MANAGE TO HAVE THE FUNDS IN A USABLE ACCOUNT BY THEN, JUST PLEDGE NOW, IF IT MAY CAUSE DIFFICULTY, DO NOT PLEDGE!

But I hope for the sake of DBPro, something gets done, personally I see no reason to work on FPSC I think DBPro should be worked on more... because personally I take no pleasure from a point and click tool to create something involving complex procedures, but that's just me I prefer the long route... I get the impression few FPSC users even knew that it was built on DBPro, no offence to long term users, but I can picture newer or more recent users not knowing this...

PLEDGE AWAY!

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I upped my 25 gbp pledge to 45 gbp. I hope we make it!

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I'll be upping mine too later in the week.



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I rarely visit this place anymore, but I used to love this program. Will see if I can pitch in later this week when I get my paycheck.
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Quote: "I rarely visit this place anymore, but I used to love this program. Will see if I can pitch in later this week when I get my paycheck."


Not to sound rude or anything, but have you read the thread at all? You will not pay anything at all until When and IF the project gets funded
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This day was very successful from what can I see, a lot of new backers and good amount of money was funded. I'm sure that the next time when you guys open the Kickstarter funding ( if you do that ) and if you place a lot of more updates, pictures and videos we will get the amount of money we need.

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Made a small Pledge, But as soon as I talk to my wife I plan on doing even more. But as for now I did the 25. hoping I can talk her into 100 or more though.

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I just pledged. Only 11 days to go, and we're only 30% there. Hopefully TGC realize that there are some of us serious enough to back the talk with monetary contribution. I'm still healing from the beating I took with X10. Don't drop another good idea!
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Hopefully it'll pick up like this in the next days... We had 23 backers today though... thats a good sign!

Heres my widget again to see:



I almost wonder if there are any companies out there willing to sponsor this project, who knows...

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I think Broken Sword 5 shows how a KS should be done, pretty well!

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1 third of time left, 2 thirds of money to get. I think everything is quite clear here. RIP FPSCR

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1. Ok guys, I pledged 100 right now. If you state you will include deferred rendering, I will raise it to 400 or 2000. Sorry to be harsh, but an Engine due to be released late 2013 without deferred rendering and real-time shadows is not worth much.

2. @ all: Don`t be too pessimistic. TGC is a company and not a low-funded or almost broken individual. They can afford to pledge "over corners" themselves. I don`t know if this is allowed or not, but I know from many of the big Kickstarter campaigns that achieved the goal last minute, that they did so by throwing their own money in.

Take a look at:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878147873/hero-u-rogue-to-redemption?ref=thanks

They would be stupid if they didn`t do the same

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Have you seen the latest update on KickStarter?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tgc/fps-creator-reloaded/posts

Loads of model packs for any who pledges 25£ or more (if the campaign is successful). Really nice!
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