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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 02:58
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Glad to hear it's out. I hope and pray for the best for what is to come.

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If any C++ or Pixel artists are interested, I am developing a sci-fi 2d open world game with C++ and SDL!

The basic premise is that you play as a freelance astronaut in procedural generated asteroid fields, where you can mine asteroids, fight other ships and players, and do trading. The game will be in an open world and everything floating around space (spaceships, space stations, and asteroids) has its own grid system so that you can expand or destroy anything in the world. I'm really excited about this game and I've started programming the engine in C++, SDL, and OpenGL. Let me know if anyone wants to help!


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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 07:19
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@thenerd - You should join our IRC. We've all been making games in C++ for quite a while and can offer immediate assistance to any questions or problems you might run into.

address: game.pixelcloud.ch:6667
channel: #general

Help us help you help us all.

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 07:45 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2015 07:46
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Thanks! I'll get on.

Here's a screenshot of my engine, got bitmap text rendering, hardware accelerated sprites, and a 2d transformation of a grid layout set up




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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 09:26
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This is probably my favourite song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km6lytPk7ao

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 10:46
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Quote: "Barclays is cutting 25% of its workforce..."


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Quote: "The tumor is out, but it appears to have metastasized from somewhere else, and they don't know where. We will not know if it is malignant or not until at least one week from today, probably closer to two, and she will have oncologists looking her over this next week. She will be kept in ICU for at least three days. I have a cold right now, so I likely will not be able to visit her just yet. After 3 or 4 days they will move her to a regular room for at least 36 hours to see how well she would do at home, with our assistance."


Ah dang... that's not very good I'll bet your emotions are swinging around pretty wildly at the moment

Quote: "Here's a screenshot of my engine, got bitmap text rendering, hardware accelerated sprites, and a 2d transformation of a grid layout set up"


You should be using a pre-made engine for this. It's just so much wasted work setting up all that kind of rendering by hand for a game like this when you can do it instantly in, say, AGK. Just sayin'...


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Quote: "You should be using a pre-made engine for this. It's just so much wasted work setting up all that kind of rendering by hand for a game like this when you can do it instantly in, say, AGK. Just sayin'..."
Pft! If he's anything like me, DIY or DDIAA (don't do it at all).
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 15:00 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2015 15:00
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Can you believe some people don't believe Australia is its own continent?? They say "No, the continent is Oceania". Dingbats. Of course Australia is its own continent! Oceania is a region, not a continental plate. Australia is the largest island and the smallest continent - easy way to remember what it is.


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Depends on what you count as a continent...

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Quote: "Can you believe some people don't believe Australia is its own continent?"


Well continents are pretty arbitrarily defined.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 16:23 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2015 16:24
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Agreed^, it seems not everyone considers it a continent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 17:39
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Quote: "Can you believe some people don't believe Australia is its own continent?"


Yes, and some people don't believe the UK is part of Europe either.

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Quote: "You should be using a pre-made engine for this. It's just so much wasted work setting up all that kind of rendering by hand for a game like this when you can do it instantly in, say, AGK. Just sayin'... "


Better yet, make it for a 27 year old console. Program it all in assembly and have the game also function as its own OS, drivers, and APIs because the console has none to begin with.

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Quote: " You should be using a pre-made engine for this. It's just so much wasted work setting up all that kind of rendering by hand for a game like this when you can do it instantly in, say, AGK. Just sayin'... "

It's only wasted work if he doesn't learn from it or wants to be commercially viable. Basically, he decides if it's wasted time/effort.

By the way, I haven't been up-to-date on AppGameKit, how is AGK's C++ SDK? Is it a true first-class citizen in the ecosystem or is it like DarkGDK was to DBP?

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Quote: "Ah dang... that's not very good"


On the contrary, this is both a good and bad thing.

It is good, because it means since it is likely cancer, at least it's not brain cancer, which is VERY VERY deadly. Since they're not sure where it originated from, it means it's very small, and once they do find it they may be able to remove it entirely and she could be very nearly cured, but of course she will have to go through some chemo and radiation therapy for a while just to be sure.

Turns out the ICU would let me visit her, as long as I wore a mask. But I would not feel comfortable, I know I'm contagious and if I got her sick? Oh boy I would never forgive myself!

Quote: "I'll bet your emotions are swinging around pretty wildly at the moment"


Indeed. I'm not gonna lie, I cried a lot last night, the amount of stress and worry had finally built up enough (even after the point of surgery) that it just had to come out. It came without warning and lasted probably a good 15 minutes. I knew a breakdown was imminent, thankfully I was all by myself and could be as loud as I wanted to be.

Not that I'm ashamed of crying, but I want to be strong in front of the rest of my family. My brother is by far the most sensitive out of all of us and if I brokedown in front of him he would have broken down too.


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Posted: 22nd Jul 2015 21:59
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Quote: "at least it's not brain cancer"
That is good to hear.

A good cry sure is needed sometimes -- it can feel quite relieving to just let it out, eh?
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Quote: "You should be using a pre-made engine for this. It's just so much wasted work setting up all that kind of rendering by hand for a game like this when you can do it instantly in, say, AGK. Just sayin'...
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Actually I've discovered it's quite the opposite... I've been able to do everything I want with SDL. It takes a little more code to setup and display images but SDL handles all the rendering for me.

In addition, now I have the benefit of amazing performance, I can use almost any library or api, and I automatically get crossplatform support. Plus, the C++ community is huge. It's much easier to find help with any topic imaginable.

Quote: "It's only wasted work if he doesn't learn from it or wants to be commercially viable. Basically, he decides if it's wasted time/effort.
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Exactly what you said, Dar13. Even if this project ends up not working out, I'll have learned a lot about C++ and modern programming trends. although I wouldn't say using C++ would make my game not be commercially viable... In fact hundreds of indie games have been made with SDL and pure OpenGL, so it's proven to be possible. The game I'm making is so specialized, it's actually to my advantage to code my own engine. I think I would spend much more time trying to work around AppGameKit or Dbpro's limits with this game than I will end up spending coding some more low level features.


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Ring Buffer

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Quote: "Ring Buffer "




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No, not that type

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Ring Buffer - /noun/ - 1) Patented electronic device intended to store a queue of various successive ringtones to be sent to a loudspeaker device by another device capable of producing ringtones when said device encounters, simultaneously, cause for which to sound multiple, distinct ringtones.
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Quote: "Depends on what you count as a continent..."


Quote: "Well continents are pretty arbitrarily defined."


Quote: "Agreed^, it seems not everyone considers it a continent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent"


This is news to me. I was going on what I learned in school, and I learned that continents are based on separated plates under the ocean. I also learned that Australia is its own continent - as I said, the largest island and smallest continent. Well since it appears continents are somewhat arbitrary, I will continue to assume Australia is its own continent.

Quote: "It is good, because it means since it is likely cancer, at least it's not brain cancer, which is VERY VERY deadly. Since they're not sure where it originated from, it means it's very small, and once they do find it they may be able to remove it entirely and she could be very nearly cured, but of course she will have to go through some chemo and radiation therapy for a while just to be sure."


I actually thought of this after posting. That definitely could be a good thing.

I'd reply more but I have to go


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Nope still the wrong Ring Buffer

Hint... Something related to this forum... But not this thread board...

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A circular buffer, cyclic buffer or ring buffer is a data structure that uses a single, fixed-size buffer as if it were connected end-to-end. This structure lends itself easily to buffering data streams. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_buffer

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Pfffffft Comet, pfffffffft. Lame. A ring buffer is gonna buff your ring tonight!
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I'm guessing something to do with interrupting an agk app when receiving a call?

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1.38mb/s downstream, who here is jelly?

(that's megabits, by the way)

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2015 22:14 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2015 22:55
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And TheComet takes the prize!

Average 40-41Mbps downstream and sadly only 9.5~Mbps upstream :/ hoping to change that by the end of the year! [Multiple of 2 fold!]

Ahhh feels so good to finally after 18~ months of being on Wi-Fi only, to finally be back on an Ethernet connection!



And 1Gbps to boot! [LAN] whole files in gigabytes transferred in seconds!

Also I use a dedicated PC that acts as a central server which also allows me to run Steam over LAN, so the solid connection makes that ever more low latency! Wi-Fi is far too unreliable :/ just wish FFXIII/FFXIII-2 would work on Stream Streaming... :/ [EDIT GOT IT WORKING YAY!]

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2015 22:27
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Quote: "Pfffffft Comet, pfffffffft. Lame. A ring buffer is gonna buff your ring tonight!"


The only reason I said that definition is because after reading this:

Quote: "Hint... Something related to this forum... But not this thread board..."


I thought it couldn't possibly be a circular buffer. I was wrong.

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I tried hard not to say related to Programming

You found it though!

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2015 22:33 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2015 22:35
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@Comet Ahhh yes I was just kidding around with you. I said what I said because Ortu and I had both teased by intentionally articulating the incorrect type of ring buffer, but then what you said was the correct one. At least I think that's what happened... But yeah I was just messing with ya.
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You don't understand. I wanted my definition to be incorrect.

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Bhahahahaha

EDIT

Meanwhile...

http://a.msn.com/r/2/AAdo9iu?a=1&m=en-gb

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Ahhh I see. Well then I digress.
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Repost in case anyone missed it:

http://a.msn.com/r/2/AAdo9iu?a=1&m=en-gb

http://a.msn.com/r/2/AAdo9iu?a=1&m=en-gb

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THIS POST ahahahahaha http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=214941&b=7&msg=2565318#m2565318

Made my day!

A hard lesson on naming variables

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WOW! Mom is doing so amazing, they moved her from ICU to Special Care Unit (SCU) in only two days. Here's a picture of her with her Dr (Merle Rust) and his nurse practitioner (Kelli Casper).



Still no word on the results of pathology. my mom was asking tough questions today, about whether or not they think it's cancer or not. She's preparing herself slowly, I think, for what might be bad news. But even so, it looks like it could be caught early and all could turn out well.

It is insane, that after brain surgery, she's cracking jokes and pretty much acting normal. Oh, except for the part where the drugs are making her beyond paranoid and she's convinced the ICU is a torture chamber, where the nurses go practice surgery all willy-nilly on the patients and whip out saws and chase naked women down the stairs. She has many interesting (and obviously delusional) stories.

She's convinced her bed has a mind of its own and moves closer to the door so she can get home faster. She's convinced that she won't be able to hear anything or see anything again (she told me this while I was talking to her and showing her something ). However, once the drugs wear off she should return pretty much back to normal. }

She is really fun while on morphine though.


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That nurses hands...

I have heard a good share of morphine stories... ^^ glad to see she is in high spirits over the situation!

Meanwhile... Something very dandy for you cravers! I have another string for you to process!

'Cache Associativity'

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Oh her hands look really red because of the gloves she had been wearing before. They weren't anywhere near that red in real life, that's just how my sister's phone camera picked it up. Crappy camera is crappy.


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hehe, not to worry... I take it the swelling is due to the surgery... [Was on my mobile earlier]

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Quote: "Oh, except for the part where the drugs are making her beyond paranoid and she's convinced the ICU is a torture chamber, where the nurses go practice surgery all willy-nilly on the patients and whip out saws and chase naked women down the stairs. She has many interesting (and obviously delusional) stories. "


My dad did that too after his brain surgery. He would claim he had flown to random places over a day, for a while he thought he was in a hospital in finland when we lived in sweden. It was pretty scary considering he was absolutley convinced that everything he said was true.

I think in his case, it was because of the overpreassure in his brain which he went into surgery for and not drugs however.

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Posted: 24th Jul 2015 16:36 Edited at: 24th Jul 2015 16:43
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Quote: "And 1Gbps to boot! [LAN] whole files in gigabytes transferred in seconds!"


Yeah, our whole home network is gigabit wired and it's so nice to be able to transfer massive video files around in minutes instead of hours!

Quote: "My dad did that too after his brain surgery. He would claim he had flown to random places over a day, for a while he thought he was in a hospital in finland when we lived in sweden. It was pretty scary considering he was absolutley convinced that everything he said was true.

I think in his case, it was because of the overpreassure in his brain which he went into surgery for and not drugs however."


It's so cool how organic chemical-based computers work! Often bad, obviously, but I find brains fascinating nonetheless - particularly when they malfunction (as long as the malfunction is only temporary, of course!)

EDIT

Just finished upgrading our NAS with 3 new 3TB drives! That brings our general storage pool to 9.09TB and our PC backup pool to 9.09TB (same size is a coincidence) - that's 18TB of storage, not even counting the 3TB parity drive!! If we lived in town I'd be paying for online backups of the entire NAS, but where we live our internet is far, FAR too slow and would take months to back up even 1TB of data Still, the only real danger to losing all our data is fire. It can't really flood where we live (and never has), our house is proven storm-proof and we don't get any kind of cyclones, tornadoes or earthquakes, so that only leaves house fire (or bush fire) - and we're extremely careful to not cause house fires!


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https://youtu.be/fw0o6jv5Rec

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Well, since we're waiting to hear back from pathology results and get the full prognosis/diagnosis, I have been trying to work on my game a bit more.

What I have decided is that my game is too big for me to work on UNLESS I make it a 2D game, which honestly I think would be more fun to make since I love drawing and making pixel art.

Previously I used GameMaker for a few games, but too many things about it annoy me anymore. Stencyl looks like a great option, but I'm not much of a fan of its flash-based engine and its licensing prices are really ridiculous.

So - I'm going to do the whole thing in AppGameKit! I'll study AppGameKit and learn much more about it (if I had a nickel for ever time I said that recently! ), and I think it will be a lot more fun if I do it all myself. Plus, I'll be able to make the engine exactly like I want to, and won't have to worry about ridiculous workarounds, like I have to with Unity/Unreal/GameMaker.

I've always liked programming things from scratch anyway, granted it takes a lot more work but it is so worth it in the end I think. This isn't to say I will never use any of the other engines, I just won't use them for this particular project. I think it would be better to put my time into using AppGameKit for this and hopefully selling it and not only getting myself exposure, but hopefully up TGCs sales a bit and get them some more members!


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It can't ever flood where I live, considering Denver (capital city of my state, about 30 miles away) would be under 3,000 feet of water if that were to happen.
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Dirty Flag [Dirty Bit]

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Quote: "Still nothing for 'Cache Associativity'? it is so useful to study!"

It's OK, I'm making Exotreve for something with no cache.

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Anybody want to help me out here? I maded this thread and no one has helped me yet

Just trying to figure out the best way to store map data in an array!


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Quote: "Just trying to figure out the best way to store map data in an array!"

I'm not sure I understand the question you're asking. Wouldn't you just have a list of whatever UDT you use for a tile?

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Yes, I would use a UDT for that. Let me try to be clearer.

I am wondering how I would store 2D map data in an array. It seems the most common thing to do in this type of situation is to make the array two dimensional, so that one array focuses on the vertical lines and the other the horizontal. So, how I would I store data in that?

I know in general, it seems to be something like...



That part seems fairly simple, at least creating the tile, but HOW do I store in those two indices? I think that's what I'm trying to figure out. Is that a little clearer or should I go into more detail?


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Posted: 25th Jul 2015 23:49
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Why would you use a 2D map? Wouldn't it just be easier to store everything in a single list and also have the coordinates of the object? That way you're not:
a.) allocating way more memory than you need
or
b.) limiting how much space you can work around in

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