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nojbox87
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humm it still crases for me after a few times of running my program. maybe it is linked to that earlier roblem about minimising the IDE as the IDE does minimise when it runs the program. has anyone else ever had any problmems with it ever crashing?
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I can't get the chat to work. I don't have a Sparta account so I tried to create a new account, but everytime I try, it says "error with account creation, check username, password". I've made sure the passwords match, but it doesn't work. I checked the ini file, and it has the username and password I supplied filled in the correct spots, but it also says "accounts created: 0".
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I get the same error.

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nojbox: I get that two, every second time I run it it crashes.
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Something else, the IDE doesn't recognize the "remend" or "or" commands. It doesn't really matter I guess since DB recognizes them once the game is compiled, but for remend its annoying when programming, because past the remend all the text is still green and italicized as though you used remstart without ever closing it.
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yay im glad im not the only person with this problem which means it could be sorted out and it isnt just my pc
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its me the bringer of bad news again. when you have 2 code windows open and you save it sometimes it changes the bars at the top of the windows (where the project name is) so that they both have the same name. it doesnt actually save them as the same thing but it sure does scare u as u think it has just saved over ur work.
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Garfield rules:

If your chosen name and password appears in the INI file but Account Created says 0, try changing the 0 to 1 and then saving the file.

This should work, but ONLY if when you created the chat account, it gave you a 'chat account successfully created' message at the bottom of the create account window when you did it.

Note On Account Names:

Your actual chat account name is MyChosenName@TDK.IDE, but ONLY MyChosenName is displayed in the IDE - and the INI file. The '@TDK.IDE' is added/removed automatically by the IDE as and when required so you do NOT type it anywhere yourself.

This is only so IDE chat users can be identified by the IDE as the chat server is used by other Sparta users.

So, when I created my account, I just entered TDK_Man as the username and the IDE added the @TDK.IDE bit on the end.

In the System Options Panel I just enter TDK_Man in the ID box.

If anyone is having this problem, please post your usernames on here (or e-mail me your username AND password) and I will check if they have been created correctly or not.

Syntax Highlighting:

Yes there are a few issues I haven't had time to address with that side of things yet - including the Remend not being noticed. It annoys me too, so I'll fix that asap!


nojbox87 & thinkdigital:

I don't have any problems with the IDE crashing at all at ANY time and I think I'm correct in saying that most others don't either, so it's very difficult for me to know where to start looking for the problem.

As it's happening to both of you, it's safe to say that you both have the same problem - BUT, it may not be a problem with the IDE. If it was, I would expect the same thing to happen for all of us - not just you two.

It might just be as silly as one dll file you both have which is not as up to date as the one the rest of us are using, or you might both be using Windows 98 while the rest of us are on XP. You see what I mean...

So, what I'll do is temporarily disable the skins for the next release and see if that cures the problem for you. If not, we'll take it from there...

Quote: "when you have 2 code windows open and you save it sometimes it changes the bars at the top of the windows"


Bug confirmed! I've had that happen too and I'm working on it!

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k thx very much and the crashing thing happenes when using dlls or not and i am using xp but yes can see what you are saying
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Hey TDK, try typing make then type circle (with a space between the two). What do you see?

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I see the words Make and Circle.

What do you see?

[Edit] Oh OK - I see what you mean now lol. That's because I've not finished the syntax parser yet.

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TDK, I'm having the same problems as Garfield, no account creation success message.

I tried compiling a couple of my larger projects. At first I just threw in the big file that had all the code injected from all the TAPEs, and it worked fine for both files (700 lines, and 1200 lines). The external files option is still throwing me off though, I'm always getting error in #include file messages, even though I delete all the labels I used to get around TAPE.


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I have reason to believe the chat server is currently down, or at least inaccessible.

When I log in, I get this:


No, I don't understand why it says 'Disa', although I think it used to say 'Disabled'.

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have you tryed re installing the program? i had a problem with it saying disabled so i reinstalled and it now goes ok. wait ill check... no works perfectly for me says chat is enabled. also have you cheched the TDK_IDE.INI to make sure chat is enabled on there?
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Quote: "
[Chat]
Account Created=1
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have you tryed re-installing it then? download again and un rar it or whatever u do to rar files.
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Yes, the chat server is definitely up and running - I just checked.

Actually, the last time I looked was over a week ago and if it fails, I am the only one who can reset everything, so it hasn't been off-line in over a week now.

If anyone is having problems connecting, please e-mail me the username you used and I'll check it out for you - creating it for you if it doesn't exist.

blanky:

Your ID has been created - I just saw it.

Just check the following for me please:

1) In the IDE's System Options, the username 'blanky' should be the only thing in the chat username box. It should not say blanky@TDK.IDE. If it does, then change it to say just 'blanky' (all lower case). Retype your password too - just to make sure...

2) In the file C:\TDK_IDE.INI make sure that it too just says 'blanky' and nothing else for the user ID and that the password is correct.

If either of these are different, please let me know as the IDE is causing the problem and I need to fix it before V0.1g is released.

This also applies to anyone else who has successfully created an account but cannot now log in.

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I found that you have to have broadband enabled to use it. Don't know why but it works for me with it on (even though on my computer, which is downstairs I don't have broadband).

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That's a good point!

I'll fix that as I'm sure to log on, the Broadband checkbox needs to be ticked - and users with Dial-up won't have it turned on.

I'll add another option and re-word it to make it clearer.

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new version out soon? cant wait for it to be toally finished. and have you done anything about a code sharing feature for the chat?
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Halfway down and not a reply since yesterday? Blasphemous. DarkEdit=toilet.


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Dark Edit = Bad. TDK DBC Editor = Good .... Really Good

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i want a new version!! lol this prog is great
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Sorry I've not made any posts for a while in this thread - been working on the IDE getting things working, so nothing much yet to report on.

I have been keeping up to date on the comments though, so I've not been ignoring anything that's been said.

Hopefully in the next couple of days I'll have a version which goes most of the way to being the first beta release!

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Yay - All cheer for teh TDK IDE! ^^

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*cheering crowd* Can't wait.

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Hey, for a new feature you could add the ability to make a simple internet connection on the side panel. You just input the Ip, if it is P2P or server-client, and if you're a host or client (or anything else you can think of) I'm sure you won't put it in, but I just thought of it now and thought I should throw that in there!

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Hey, I got a 2002 version of XP, what wrong with that?
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Quote: "Hey, I got a 2002 version of XP, what wrong with that?"


Sorry - don't know what you are talking about?

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version complete?
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Quote: "version complete?"


No - major problem I'm afraid.

I've been looking into the problems users have been reporting - in particular the windows exception errors some people have been experiencing and have come to the conclusion that there's a faulty component in use somewhere.

As a test, I created another IDE project from scratch without this component and another major problem with multiple open files that I've been battling with for a long time has also disappeared. I've also now confirmed that it's not the skins causing the problem either - something I'd originally assumed.

All these problems might be down to the fact that the current IDE used to be a DBP IDE and something went wrong during conversion to DBC.

As such, I've decided to scrap the current IDE and rebuild it from the ground up using the currently working code and replacing the faulty component with an alternative I have found.

This shouldn't take too long as I can re-use most of the current IDE's code - which isn't faulty.

What I will also do is take this opportunity to start a new thread for the project with a suitable topic title.

Please keep your eyes open for a 'New IDE For DBC' thread...

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Wow, sounds difficult and frusterating!

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hope it is going ok and hey check this out http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=61222&b=10
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Cripes.

Talk about embarrassing! There's no way I'm going to post in that thread. Lol!

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Hey, hows the new (sorta) IDE coming along? Any new features or probably not. I bet there won't be. Oh well. See ya!

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oh u got to talk on the board. we are all ur fans lol. so how is it comming along? and hopefully the new one will be faultless hope it does come out soon though. Also anybody ever use the chat function? not seen it in use since the 3 way convo we had
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The IDE re-write is coming along nicely.

I can now open multiple DBA files - and save them without overwriting the wrong file, so I'm happy about that.

It's even working with skins too - which is a bonus.

I've now switched to a different method of syntax highlighting which was recommended to me, but after trying it, I'm not all that impressed with it...

Even so, should be able to get a 'no frills' version up and running at the end of this weekend sometime.

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yay thats great. one more thing can u make a thing that automaticaly deletes comments and blank lines and stuff like that for final version of software to make the code as smal as possibly. (im not sure this would actually save much space but if it would it could be a nice feature)
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Quote: "yay thats great. one more thing can u make a thing that automaticaly deletes comments and blank lines and stuff like that for final version of software to make the code as smal as possibly. (im not sure this would actually save much space but if it would it could be a nice feature)"


The DarkBASIC compiler automatically does this when making an EXE.
(Although it is interpreter-based, the EXE doesn't quite just work through the DBA file and translate each command as it goes along when you double-click it; It stores your DBA file as numbers (that are quicker to interpret... Although it's not that much better ))

Oh yeah, and I am happy to hear the no-frills version of TDKEdit is coming along so well.

P.S., Have you tried assigning it as the default program in Windows Explorer for DBA files and tried to open a file by double-clicking on it? It doesn't work for me in the current version.. (Comes up 'Invalid Filename'.)

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Quote: "P.S., Have you tried assigning it as the default program in Windows Explorer for DBA files and tried to open a file by double-clicking on it? It doesn't work for me in the current version.. (Comes up 'Invalid Filename'.)"


No it won't. That sort of thing would be done by the installer when you get the finished program. I don't want to mess about with any user's system files until the program is fully finished.

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ok thx 4 that one blankey. nearly done TDK?
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done yet?
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Erm, patience?
I'm sure he will tell us then.


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but i like this prog ... oh ok ill wait
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Poot. Hoopy.

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u what?
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TDK wanted to say the IDE is awesome but I have one suggestion for it. Instead of having TDK_IDE.INI go to the C: folder you should customize it so it is placed in the directory that editor.exe is located. I'm on a school system right now and can't access the C: drive and the system wont even let your editor write the TDK_IDE.INI file so I keep getting a lot of errors. Just a suggestion.

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Dark Programmer:

That's not a problem - easily done!

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Wow, TDK, this is cool. Waiting for release
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