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Specters
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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 22:02 Edited at: 10th Nov 2005 22:04
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Aww... Come on Drew Cameron, I actually am up to playing. I can understand if you have something against me or anything, it's just that all of a sudden I have all this free time. Right now I have a few days with nothing to do. If you just dislike something about me, I guess I can understand...

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Yes I actually have gotten problems from games and solved them. I mean I have good debugging experiecnce. I just would like to beta test for once. And beta test for an acutally good game at that. I don't know.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 22:04
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I'D LOVE TO TEST!!!!!
Unfortunatly, I have absoulutly no idea how my system works... I'd understand if you don't think i'd be a good tester. If you do, my e-mail is here: mkurnett@yahoo.com
Hope it gets out on the 15th, even if it has one or two teeny tiny bugs. Only one thing i'd like fixed; the mouse problem. I have a touch pad, and whenever I accdentally touch it, D and C minimizes. If i un-minimise it, it gives me "runtime error: sprite already exists".
Good luck!

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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 22:43
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Also Drew, (Lol sounds funny, saying to someone with their name like mine)
I Did find a small bug in your Dumbo and Cool Demo. I forgot to tell you before. When you use Dumbo (Atleast I think it's dumbo) she get stuck a bit somehow when Cool is standing on the lever in level one, to make the steps appear. A small little glitch were she will fall into the water, you can't really move from there. I guess it was a fluke I found it, if no one said anything about it. Not sure if you think that is helpful. Oh well, please let me test. I will be BOOOOORED for hours at home with nothing to do. .

Oh an the projects I am working on, I can't do much, waiting for models and other crap until i can do some more work.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 23:11 Edited at: 10th Nov 2005 23:28
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My apologies but my original response stands. I don't feel you have the experience, as this is a large task. Sorry. I really don't want to be offensive, I've not issue with you - except you stole my name and avatar , so I hope you understand.

Not Young Programmer, you have been following this project helpfully since Day 1, so you are in.

And unless anybody else wants to join in?

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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 23:15
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Yeah Drew C. I want to join.


Quote: "My apologies but my original response stands. To be frank, you've barely been here 11 days. "

Did ya look at the date I joined?


Quote: "except you stole my name and avatar"

First, I was born with that name. I can't change it yet, (like I would) so sorry bout have the name like yours. And the avatar, Mine is of ollie, not nosegrind.


Quote: "And unless anybody else wants to join in?"


I already said I want to join. Cmon, you said earlier
Quote: "If anybody is interested in being a final tester, please reply here"


I replied, and I'm rejected. Can I just please beta test for you. I will be helpful. Can you just give me this one chance?

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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 23:38
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Quote: "
Quote: "except you stole my name and avatar"
First, I was born with that name. I can't change it yet, (like I would) so sorry bout have the name like yours. And the avatar, Mine is of ollie, not nosegrind."


Be creative maybe? your username doesnt have to be ur real name. and a lot of the time i think its Drew C that is talking when really its you.


Quote: "I replied, and I'm rejected."

Not everyone can always get what they want. If he already rejected you what makes u think he will change his mind?


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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 23:48
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I don't know, I just saw him asking and my hopes just shot up high. And then I'm just wondering if he can give me one chance to test the game. If he wants, I will change my name and avatar.

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Drew Cameron
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Posted: 10th Nov 2005 23:52
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Keep your name and avatar,
it's not that the game is a big elitist thing, but it's like that episode of 4400. If I give the full game to somebody because they said please a couple of times, then I'll have to give it everybody who does this. I've got to be selective here, again I'm sorry. Please accept my answer and forgive my candor.

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Mike S
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Thankyou again, all those above please await the link over this weekend.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2005 00:05 Edited at: 11th Nov 2005 00:07
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Well I see I didn't make it.

Oh well...

I expect to have a chance to Beta test Dumbo and Cool II.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2005 09:28
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Again, thanks for your interest.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2005 15:24 Edited at: 11th Nov 2005 15:27
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Will you give the link through email?
If you do then please send it to:

cat.thenerd@NOTHANKS!gmail.com

Remove the "NOTHANKS!" text

-The Nerd

Quote: " I'll get in touch with you over email once I've got the other 4 testers, thanks."


Guessed i missed that text
Well, now you alteast know what email to contact me on

Well, i got all weekend to test, so i'm ready when you are

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Posted: 11th Nov 2005 15:47
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yep, i'm awaiting your e-mail

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so am i.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2005 20:21
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All in time, team.

Please await further instructions via emails.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2005 21:28
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I eagerly await as always.



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Posted: 13th Nov 2005 01:46
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I eagerly await your instructions also Drew C.



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@Drew Cameron
I remember seeing the team request for the orignal Dumbo (along with the concept art ). It's great to see how far you've come, I hope you make yourself a bit (or maybe even a lot) of money out of this. Good luck.


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Posted: 13th Nov 2005 13:38 Edited at: 13th Nov 2005 15:54
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Drew, when are you likely to send it? Its just, I'm starting to get paranoid whether my email is working or not; for all I know you could of already sent it!

Otherwise, awaiting email

Quote: "I eagerly await your instructions also Drew C."

Did I miss something? I thought you weren't testing?


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Posted: 13th Nov 2005 15:35
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He's not. He's just trying it on.

Emails sent.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2005 16:41 Edited at: 13th Nov 2005 16:46
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Drew,
I'm having real problems trying to test -

*I recieve "Runtime error 2002-Could not load animation at line 10324" when I press new or continue game

I have all the Windows Media stuff installed, so I can't see why it wouldn't load the anim. The ZIP extracted perfectly also.

Is there a file missing from the ZIP?

[I sent you an email about this aswell]


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I wish I could be a tester


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KLU 007 - You're on my list to test now, please wait a couple of days until I'm done with this lot though and you'll get a chance.

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Right, since I've been uncovering a horrible amount of compatability issues with Dark Bug Pro, it's not going to be out for a while.

I'm going to upgrade it all to 5.9, and all going well this should sort out alot of problems. If this is quick, then the game will be out quickly, if it's problematic, then the game will obviously be delayed a while.

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Got your e-mail, testing now.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2005 21:15 Edited at: 13th Nov 2005 22:57
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Breaking news

Well, the game is completely done, and I think that, with a long night of testing with David R, we've solved the Crashing errors in the game. However, the game is now extremely slow to load due to the deletion of objects being slow in U5.8 which I have just upgraded to.

SO, I will be taking a couple of days, perhaps one week, to reorganize code so that A) Upgrades are easier and B) There are no gaps in object numbers, which I'm told will dramatically increase performance.

So my signature is still valid - one week to go.

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OMG, I didn't receive the email. Drew what's up?

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I never got an e-mail

you sure you sent it?


or the one in my profile, but it's juno so it can't handle more then 2 MBs

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Send the game to dagjr3@[NOSPAM]netzero.com

remove the [NOSPAM]

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Posted: 14th Nov 2005 08:35 Edited at: 14th Nov 2005 08:35
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Hi Drew

I played the game much yesterday, and will test some more today. Expect the test results later today(I will send them by email).

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Quote: "KLU 007 - You're on my list to test now, please wait a couple of days until I'm done with this lot though and you'll get a chance."


Hey thanks!
You know which e-mail to contact me on.


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Posted: 14th Nov 2005 09:40 Edited at: 14th Nov 2005 09:41
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Quote: "Send the game to dagjr3@[NOSPAM]netzero.com

remove the [NOSPAM]"


I think you'll be waiting for a while.

Peter_, I'll send you another email tonight then.

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ok, thanks!

(i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you sent it to my juno acc and it was too big )

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How long will I be waiting???

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Take a hint specter, he told you politely that you're not on the list and every post you make demanding to be put on is just reflecting poorly on yourself.

Quote: "There are no gaps in object numbers, which I'm told will dramatically increase performance."

o_O Is that... if I do a "load object 1" and then "load object "50" i'd get less performance than "load object 1" and then "load object 2"? Cos if that's teh case i'll have to really redo a lot of my codes x__x


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Posted: 14th Nov 2005 18:27 Edited at: 14th Nov 2005 18:28
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Drew, serious (ly annoying) bug I've just found, which has rendered the game rather more difficult for me to complete

The control key (switch character) has stopped working on level 3!

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I loaded level 3 from the menu. I started as dumbo (default)moved one step forward, and then switched to cool. I played cool right up to reaching the island with the target range (meaning I passed the bomb bit etc.) I tried to switch to Dumbo after I had reached the target range, and it refused to work

Hopefully there's a logical explanation for this, so I hope you can help Thanks.


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This did not happen to me.

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I'm using a slightly different , more 'experimental' build at the moment though, since the average one refused to play animations on my machine, and crashed out instead Damn computer!


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That's rightio.

Hey everyone - whilst I'm tidying up some code, I've been fixing up the 2D side of things. The text is now sprite based, and everything's getting upgraded graphically;



Oh yeah, and some storyboards for MOST of the games films. The ending is top secret though, so I haven't included it.



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Menu looks nice
Game title text also helps enforce which one is which for those not paying attention


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Posted: 15th Nov 2005 10:48 Edited at: 15th Nov 2005 10:50
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Ha ha thanks! That was the idea anyway;

I've added a bit more life into the main menu now,

Dumbo & Cool now do stuff in the background - they've got some AI code that makes them chase coins as they fall to the ground; with Dumbo ordering Cool to go and fetch the coins if they are far away. Eventually Cool starts to get annoyed at Dumbo and tells her to "Shutup", then Dumbo has to go and get them herself.

What I'm doing now:

I'm redoing all the 2D stuff in bitmap fonts etc..
New loading screens and things like that
Adding microchips etc... into the puzzle levels to make them more computer-y? They're kind of plain at the moment

It's all good!

Testers? Still looking for a few more sets of results from the emails I sent out!

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@Drew Cameron:

After i sended you the test results you asked about if i got any silent crashes, i have sended you the email but never heard back from you.

Regards

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Quote: "Testers? Still looking for a few more sets of results from the emails I sent out!"

I still haven't got an e-mail

if you tried sending it to my gmail account and it didn't work you can always try admin@hellmutharts.com

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Drew, still doing some in-depth testing, so my results won't be back for a few days. However; even with 3 hours of constant testing, I have been unable to get a crash-on report Yet, I',m still having troubles with the control key not working


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The Nerd , I'll get back to you.

Peter_, that's funny, I've now sent you two emails! Can you wait until the next BETA in about two weeks then, because the current version has some problems anyway that I hope to sort out. Funny that.

David R; for now, please press 2 when you wish to use Cool for a bit, and use the regular "Cool" keys and then press 1 when you wish to exclusively play as Dumbo. Temporary, but it allows you to play at least.

And great news about the Crash On problem. Really great! You're going to love the updates I'm adding now, as well, since I'm restructuring it all anyway to get rid of gaps in object numbers for load speed, I'm adding new things as I go.

Thanks testers! Please continue to try and crash it etc..

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*sigh*

ok... just use admin@hellmutharts.com it has no form of junk mail filtering, which might be the problem with the other accs...

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Posted: 15th Nov 2005 15:14 Edited at: 15th Nov 2005 15:29
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Sure thing, wait until I get's home tonight then and I'll send it off for you.

New sig, with horrible low JPG quality.

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Quote: "The text is now sprite based,"

Just wondering, does it actually bring any kind of speed boost to DaC? I'm saying this, because I'm considering replaicng text in my own game with sprite-based text, and does it really have any benefit?


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No, it's slower if anything, but it looks good.

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if you are using the dbpro text in the real time part of the game i can almost guarantee you that switching to sprites will give you a speed boost...



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Okay, that's good to know!

Peter_, if you wait a week you'll get the brand spanking new version. The old one is out of date already, thanks to the hard work of David R and his bug killing help!

Again, thankyou sincerely, David R!

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