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SharkyPL
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Hello! So what about this "addom" ? Can you maybe upload "beta" version? I'd love only one thing - SaveGame feature. But ofcourse I'd love to see ragdolls too...
So - Give us an update. Give us beta, anything, please!
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If anyone is going to modify the FPSC source code for any kind of engine mod, it makes sense to wait and see what TGC fixes/changes with 6.0 of DBpro and their official patch for FPSC (assuming they release the source code again) Otherwise you might be creating code that will need a band-aid anyway.

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Quote: "thanks reubenm your kind words mean everything ha!"

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Quote: "Thanks BULLSHOCK 2, I and a friend that has DB Pro tried to compile the FPSC-Game.dba and it is full of errors. Are you positive that this is the exact source file that TGC used to make the engine for FPSC?"


you must have the expansions pack installed, and you may have to change a few variables in the ini. Check the readme for sure.

also, you need 5.9...i assume you have it, but just in case...

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Cellbloc Studios
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Hey, does anyone want the source code of what I have currently?

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And an executable of it ...
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Yes, I would dig an exe. Because i dont have the Enhancements.
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HELL YEAH! that would be awesome!

what exactly have you completed so far?

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Yes I would like it...

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The source code would be excellent! Maybe then other's can help you with some tweak's to it?
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I could help you with the source code....
I've been tweaking the engine for myself and now i dot the
NGCollision halfway done...

Let me get a source and i'll help you with the Culling problem!

I really want to see cows raining!

Why should you care?

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Quote: "I've been tweaking the engine for myself and now i dot the
NGCollision halfway done..."


Interesting ...
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Posted: 25th Feb 2006 00:52
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OMG... it is raining cows!!!

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Posted: 25th Feb 2006 14:48
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more cows is the thing...
and they have to be smaller!

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Cellbloc Studios,

The source and an exe would be great that way a little recon can be done before getting into anything.

Can it be done with just the basic expansion pack for $25.00?

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Quote: "Hey, does anyone want the source code of what I have currently?"


I hope this is not a joke ...
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Posted: 25th Feb 2006 20:58 Edited at: 25th Feb 2006 20:59
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Yes please

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My opinion!
Too much unrelated talk and arguing gets threads locked.
30 fps is enough to match human perception of movement.
Anything greater makes strange things happen especially when the game is run on a faster machine.
FPSC is the best thing DB has done in ages.
One forum is better to keep all info available in one spot.
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Les Horribres
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RF, I will admit, I had to be corrected on that... My arrogant side will admit that the guy who corrected me on it was a readtard (Readtard- person who is so intelectually below standard that when they read something, they will change its contents to fit their argument).

The human eye can PERCIVE light at 200fps, however the human eye sees naturally at 100fps (fliker free TV's operate at this [that means that at 100fps you can no longer differentiate between black and white (given that they are alternating between eachother)]). Videos are recorded with "Motion Blur" to make you belive that you are seeing something in motion.

I am sad... no one has replyed to my raining cows post... (okay, 1 person)
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Merranvo the human eye can persieve 60+ FPS, but makes sense of like 25-30 FPS. Yeah and I visited the website you went to to get your information, not a very good site. while more frames per second helps make the picture crystal, high frame rates are not needed.

Quote: "The human eye can PERCIVE light at 200fps, however the human eye sees naturally at 100fps (fliker free TV's operate at this [that means that at 100fps you can no longer differentiate between black and white (given that they are alternating between eachother)]). "


modern tv has been recorded to achieve the max frame rate possible. but you figure back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's the normal sitcom on tv was at around 25 to 35 FPS. you can no longer tell the difference between black and white at a much lower frame rate. anyway not trying to argue just stating fact. I hate it when research is done with excess in mind.

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So CB, where is the code?
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???
Black and white... if something is Alternating that means that it is changing between both. Has nothing to do with B/W TV\'s. Your computer screen is NOT allways one color, it is alternating between black (off) and the color that you see.

modern tv has been recorded to achieve the max frame rate possible.

1 DVD = 9GB.
9GB = 9216MB.
1 Picture = xMB
QED: Max Pictures = 9216/xMB

1 DVD = 2hours
2hours = 120min
120min = 7200sec
MaxPicture / 7200 = FPS
9216/(xMB * 7200) = FPS

9216/(7200*FPS) = xMB
1.28MB/FPS = xMB

Well, something is strange... I don\'t know where my math is wrong... Mabey it isn\'t... confusing. (And this is not accounting for sound). The pictures are too small (in MB)...

Well... Can you site your source? Perhaps I can see where you get your info.



As a note, they guy I was making fun of as a \"Readtard\" clamed he had a powerful enough machine to run, HL2 was it? at 200FPS. Further more he claimed that he noticed the difference (assuming that there was no lag on either computer) and then said more bull that really was bull. Seriously bull. Most games have a sync in them anyways, So you can\'t get to 200FPS. And then there is another one I liked... there are these people who claimed they hacked the XBOX (original) put in a gigabit ethernet card, got on a T1, and then beat everyone. They even said \"The other people who saw us said we moved super smoothly\", well, how can they see the extra Frames if they don\'t have as many pings as you. They also said that \"Everyone else was sooo slow\" If they were \"soo slow\" then how can they play normally? Even then, MS probally regulates pings, if they didn\'t then people with really high speed internet (ie. T1) may crash the server due to excessive data requests (mabey not crash, but certainly slow down). Those are readtards. Make up some st that is so utterly stupid that it would never work, then say you did it.
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Merranvo: SHUT UP!
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I checked mulitple websites to et my facts. I have to go through my history files to get the sites. As far as people hacking in to a T1 server ok and? Giga bit tech is not all that reliable (I have giga tech in my system) Thats fine but the problem with doing that is they would have to unlock the HD, install a normal OS and then load the drivers and then splice the card and then hope to god they got it right. oh yeah they would also have to splice a keyboard as well. and then remap the joystick to accomidate for it and then once they figured out what drivers they needed to run the OS on the Xbox (People have done it, I've seen linux as an Xbox OS)and then sort through all the junk that is not recognised by the OS...see where I am going with this? seems like an awfull lot of work just to cheat at a game.

so can we get back on topic now. oh yeah there is no topic anymore. i think it gost lost on page2.

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I think I lost the point of what I was saying...

I think I thought that you may have missunderstood me when I sad readtard, so I was describing people who "said" they did things and support it with partial information.


As for asking for your source, I am not seeing further debate, but correction of my facts.
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i understand man. Everything I say in here is backed up by some form of research. AS you can see from my previous posts (all of them) they are pretty informed. liekt he tommygun info I put forth. and the latest Physics Dynamic/Static thread I just posted. very well informed stuff. so what was the topic of this thread? I think it should deleted and restarted for topic clearity.

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umm...no, cb has had this thread deleted and locked so many times...

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What enhancement packs are manditory to change and compile the source code for FPSC? I and another might want to dig into it. We might get something that we can use of it. We might even contribute to the whole Riker9 plan. Who knows?

We just need to know what enhancement pack we will really need to compile the source code successfully.

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CB, this is a relitivly easy request

add the variable hudtimer to the type entityelement
replace hudtimer with entityelement(e).hudtimer


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There are three different packs at http://darkbasicpro.thegamecreators.com/?f=enhancementpack

What is the bare minimum to compile FPSC source code? Does anyone know?

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The "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack". the others arnt needed.
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=ChrisB=,

There is as follows for the availible packs for DB Pro:

Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00
DarkBASIC Professional Ultimate Extension Pack $83.95
Enhancements Expansion Pack and EZrotate $39.99

All of the above enhancement packs are for DB Pro.

There isnt a pack called "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack".

I dont want to get something I dont need.

What one of the above packs is the least expensive that I will need to successfully compile the FPSC source code?

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Quote: "Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00"


I think this is the one you need.

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Are you absolutely 100% sure?

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Quote: "The "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack". the others arnt needed"


Quote: "Are you absolutely 100% sure?"


Quote: ""Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00"


well read the first qoute and then the third quote and then the second qoute and you tell me.

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OK...

So folks if Riker9 is ready for download or at least what CB has done where is the Link...

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@incense

just the enhancements pack, the other two are bundles with the enhancements pack. its the $25.00 one. im 110% sure

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even though you havent received it yet...
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Reality Forgotten,

Quote: "Quote: "The "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack". the others arnt needed"


Quote: "Are you absolutely 100% sure?"


Quote: ""Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00"

well read the first qoute and then the third quote and then the second qoute and you tell me.
"


Nice selective quoting. Read them entirely, they say

Quote: "=ChrisB=,

There is as follows for the availible packs for DB Pro:

Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00
DarkBASIC Professional Ultimate Extension Pack $83.95
Enhancements Expansion Pack and EZrotate $39.99

All of the above enhancement packs are for DB Pro.

There isnt a pack called "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack".

I dont want to get something I dont need.

What one of the above packs is the least expensive that I will need to successfully compile the FPSC source code?
"



This clearly states that there are three to choose from and none of them had the name that =ChrisB= gave.


Quote: "Quote: "Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00"

I think this is the one you need."


The number of times that the words "I think" has caused me to have to back track in the past is mind boggling. I try to learn from my mistakes. Where is the concrete answer in "I think"?

The smartest thing to do is make sure. Incorrect names and "I think" in a case like this are the worst enemy.

No attitude intended, Im sure you understand.

Cant wait for the realease of the source for Riker9 and an exe, if that is what CB is going to do.

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ok the name of the program is called DarkBasic Pro, right?
and what you need is the enhancement pack, right?

Quote: "The "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack". the others arnt needed"


Do you see anything in this quote that says "and EZrotate" I thought not. It was stated that you need the enhancements pack and nothing more.

Open your eyes and try not to read to deeply in to things.

No attitude intended I'm sure you understand.

Now that that is done, let's get back to this mythilogical beast known as riker9.

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Reality Forgotten,

You are still selectivley quoting me. I have not done or said anything toward you that was even close to snide or insulting. Are you just a mean person? You seem to be stuck on using my own post to make me look stupid. I stated twice that there are:

3 enhancment packs for DB Pro.

If you had read the entire post you would have seen that.

"DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack" could be any of the three. A name is everything. Especially when you are talking about something like software.

there is the following:
Enhancements Expansion Pack $25.00
DarkBASIC Professional Ultimate Extension Pack $83.95
Enhancements Expansion Pack and EZrotate $39.99

What one of those is the "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack"

2 of them has the word "Enhancements" in them, one has "DarkBASIC Professional" in the name and they all have the word "Pack" in the name. Just because there are different words in the names doesnt make it obvious as to what pack is the "DarkBASIC Pro Enhancements Pack". As for reading "to deeply in to things". When it comes to names im not psycic. If someone asks for the name of something they generally want the name of that thing and not a sudo name.

I asked a question. I did get an answer. If all you can do is rip on me for it then I am sorry you feel that way. I still have no feeling of ill will toward you. I wish you the best.

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wasn't ripping you man. I quoted chrisB. anyways man you still don't get what I said but you do have the program now I trust. so lets let this one die. We are both on the same page but in different books. And I am not a mean person at all. I am quite personable. new subject:

Did you get the source code?

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I have the FPSC souce code. Just no way to compile it yet but that is to come for me soon.

As for the Riker9 source code, Nope, no source code yet but looking forward to it some time soon I hope.

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CB, this is a relitivly easy request

add the variable hudtimer to the type entityelement
replace hudtimer with entityelement(e).hudtimer

Again because of some minor argueing.

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I am so glad that you are doing this, if you wouldn't mind you can post a beta version, all I need is a save/load function, but you are way beyond normal expectations, and I and I assume everyone in this board wants to thank you!

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I WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR THE SOURCE AND POSSIBLY AN EXECUTABLE. FPSC needs flashlights, allies, vehicles etc. So, cellbloc, when will this happen??? I don't mean to rush you AT ALL, It's just, FPSC, great program. NEEDS IMPROVEMENT. MAJOR improvement. Thx, Jim

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Urm, your all really dumb. You all went on about Cellbloc's mod for fpsc, that I think he seems to think he cant be bothered with it any more, because you lot went on about having it every second.

If this is a the fact, iam going to laugh at you all, and also go a bit nuts for not having save/load.

We will just have to see what he has to say about his mod. I also think most of you should stop moaning about it, it will come when its done, so shut up.
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With all the constant posts asking when it would be done, I would have stopped long ago. And posted so on this site.

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Why should you care?

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