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Fallout
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Hey, my mum says that too. Crazy coincidence.

Well, once again this is all on hold for another month now. Dissertation is due in next friday. Presentation is being done on the following tuesday (1 hour long). Two weeks after that my exams are on and will be finished by the 17th May. Then I sleep for 3 months.

Progress later.

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tha_rami
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Well, considering the amount of time, sparse time to say the least, and the result, I must say: ...

Yup - that's right, I'm totally speechless. Whatever. It looks good there Fallout, and I wish you good luck with Dissertation, Presentation and exams. Don't sleep for too long - people can't sleep for extended periods of time without food or liquid. I'd recommend something with alcohol to loosen the stress a bit. AFTER YOUR EXAMS, not during.

Progress Later. Great

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Quote: "Then I sleep for 3 months."


Nice try.

But we have an industry to conquer. Sleep is for later.


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I hear that! .... Brrrrraaaaains!!!

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Milkman
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any news on this? will we be able to play it?


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Ok, lemme try and lay down some vague plans for ODF now:

First up, exams are in mid may. No work on games until pretty much the end of may. Secondly, there is another project thats been in development for a year on and off that is likely to become my main project when uni is done.

BUT, I've decided ODF will definitely get finished. However, I'm gonna work on a totally different gameplay style to the combat. Now the uni requirement for this game is complete and my technical investigation is done, I can concentrate on making it a FUN game. Not just that, but innovative. When I know what that means, I'll be getting all the info up!

So basically, no work on this for about a month. Then it will be a second project to another secret project. But you can expect it to be developed to play innovatively. I am the biggest cynic as far as RTSs are concerned, and I really want to do something different. So expect an RTS which will attempt to concentrate HARD on the strategy. And also I've invested too much time in this already to can this project, so expect it to evolve slowly but surely and become a fully fledged RTS.

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Lazlazlaz 1
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Well firstly, congratulations on showing just what DBpro can do. Secondly, i am working on my own RTS atm (its a Western hollywood style), and I am baffled as how to do a non-tile based pathfinding system. Are there any hints you can drop or even bits of code? I would appreciate it a lot, thanks.

Hmm
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Lol, I've seen this thread for a while and have never posted. However, you make me feel as if my skills in DBP suck, but have inspired me to try my hand a modeling. Thank you for that inspriation.

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 20:04
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@Lazlazlaz

My system works in a very similar way to A* really (although accidentally). There are a bunch of nodes positioned around the town that are linked to each other and describe a way of negotiating the buildings. In a similar way to A*, when the unit gets to a node, it figures out which linked node is closest to its destination and moves there next. It also uses line of sight ray casting to calculate if the unit can get straight to its destination without using the node network. It systematically checks for potential collisions with ray casting, then uses the node network to navigate its way around until the destination is in the line of sight again.

There are a few other features to it, but that's the basics of it. In reality, I think a tilebased system is probably your best bet, as there are lots of overheads to this method.

@Drew

Sorry man! But learning to model is good, so I reckon I did you a favour!

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Lazlazlaz 1
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thanks fallout, i am not there yet in my game (and I will wait for the release of DarkAI first) but thanks anyway for the advice.

Hmm
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Curious, how many lines of code are you at?
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Around 4500 including a moderate amount of comments.

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Drew G
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Quote: "Sorry man! But learning to model is good, so I reckon I did you a favour! "

Oh thanks, though, now the problem is finding a good free modelling program, to see if I should then buy the prog. Thanks
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Lazlazlaz 1
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yeah, which program did you model in fallout?

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Chris Franklin
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I bet it's milkshape

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That'd be the one. But Milkshape aint free! Also Ultimate Unwrap 3D for texturing.

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Yeah but Milkshape is dirt cheap and everyone should be able to afford it, haha.


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ionstream
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Dear lord, Fallout, I really want to play that game! Looks incredible!

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Drew the G
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@ Fallout
I remember you had a sound file, the noise was
"Checkmate Foo" something like that... Can you repost it please? Thanks
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The Nerd
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I'm very sorry to post a little off topic here... But:

@Megaton Dog:

Omg! You've stolen my dog, how dare you! (Yes it's a picture of my dog in your avatar)

Change it, now! Seriously.

Now, back on topic:

Fallout:

This game looks absolutely amazing! Must be one of the best looking db games I've seen!

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@ Fallout:

Wow, this looks incredible. I was looking for some costructive crit, but I couldn't find any.

Keep up the awesome work. I don't want to think about how long it must have taken, having to write it up and everything.

@The Nerd:

Megaton Dog is Drew G. I'll be surprised if he listens to you.

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@Megaton Dog:

I you are talking about music then rap group Cypress Hill in their song Checkmate had a voice sample somewhere at the end like... "checkmate foo!"

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Do you have that ending?

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Sure no prob bud
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The game looks awesome Fallout, it's great to see another person stick to working on an RTS. I'm also glad that ours aren't the same genre, because then I'd have some serious competition, haha. Keep up the good work!

Did you use the "set shadow shading on" for the 3D shadows?

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Omg. More random babble and props to read!

Thanks for the continued kind words peeps.

@Megaton Dog
I reformatted my comp a few days a go. All little random things like that were in the C:\temp which have now been annihilated. It's hanging around on a forum post somewhere though ....

@Xander
Yes mate, I used the built in shadow shading commands. And I totally agree that any competition we might have had has lucky been averted due to our genre differences - mainly on your part though. You've got the most original game out of the two.

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you know what fallout this is amazing and i think it could be the next C&C Generals.

Instead of just learning how to program i am also learning how to model in Wings 3D so if you know of any good tutorials let me know.
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great work fallout would like to see this complete

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DeleD is a reasonable modelling program that is free. You can easily texture and you can export to .X and it has vertex/line/face/object editing tools. The pro one can export to .dbo

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Milkshape is teh bangin. I use it too.
Milkhshape + Lithunwrap + Milkshape's thousands of plugins(including poly reducer) = Godlike, high quality, medium or low poly models.

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This looks excellant!

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Looks great fallout cant wait to try it out

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Can you include capture the flag? That would be a first for a RTS I think.

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Can you include some updates? Where has this gone?

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I refer you to a post I made on the last page ...

Quote: "
BUT, I've decided ODF will definitely get finished. However, I'm gonna work on a totally different gameplay style to the combat. Now the uni requirement for this game is complete and my technical investigation is done, I can concentrate on making it a FUN game. Not just that, but innovative. When I know what that means, I'll be getting all the info up!

So basically, no work on this for about a month. Then it will be a second project to another secret project. But you can expect it to be developed to play innovatively. I am the biggest cynic as far as RTSs are concerned, and I really want to do something different. So expect an RTS which will attempt to concentrate HARD on the strategy. And also I've invested too much time in this already to can this project, so expect it to evolve slowly but surely and become a fully fledged RTS.
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The other project is taking all my time at the moment, but both will be finished.

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Whew. I had managed to miss that post I think...can't wait to see the "secret project."

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There was CTF in C&C Red Alert, and maybe even in C&C when you play online.


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I have a question...
How many polys are the models you have?

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It looks awesome I dunno if you said that there would be multiplayer of any form is there??

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@Briere

The vehicles are too high poly. I think they're around 300-400 which is way too much for the view distance. They had to be that high for my scientific investigation though. Most will be redesigned later on. The troops were 100 poly, and will stay the same. I'm happy with those chaps.

@Admiral

There is no mention of multiplayer yet, but I would definitely consider implementing it, even if it's only 1v1. Multiplayer is pretty key to games these days, so if I can get it working well enough, there will be multiplayer.

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Ok I would suggest you use multi sync or tempest their great dlls and easy to use.

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Where did you get such good texture maps? The program?



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You have GOT to put this unit in your game, Fallout...

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Ontos - Greek for "the thing..." schweet!


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Did you read up on it? Good weapon but only one shot per barrel and then the crew have to get out of the thing to reload it. Could definitely make the game interesting from the angle I was planning to take it later. Would be cool to have a weapon like that mash up a tank, then as the troops climb out to reload it, the other player picks a few of them off with sniper fire.

Could be interesting. Oh, the possibilities.

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but, what time is your game generally set in? cause the Ontos was used in the 1950s and removed from service in 1969

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Thats it. I am going to give up coding, modeling, and texturing and go and live in a cave.

Or, in other words.

Thats *****y unbaliveable!!!!
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Well, first off maybe the six barrels could be belt fed...


and being used by out of date terrorists?

And yeah, I did read up on it...

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nothing says he has to use that exact model, just something based off of it.

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true well, i was just making sure...

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I haven't really decided on a time/location for this game yet. The most likely setting will be near future post-appocolyptic. That sort of setting allows me to have any sort of vehicle I want, but nothing too OTT (as it's near future). No lasers, no plasma etc. I'll probably base all my weapons on real weapons, but modify them. Post-appocolyptic also gives the greatest flexibility for setting and story.

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