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Seditious
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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 07:42
Quote: "Yes Seditious you are fantastic at English, nice the way you showed them how much more superiour you are!"


Thank's you! Of whom do you speak?

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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 10:02 Edited at: 26th Jun 2015 10:13
My new guitar arrived yesterday, and it's waaaay better than the crappy one I had been learning on!

Years ago we (my brother and I) got a guitar each for Christmas or something, but we never really did much with them. They're just $50 Clarks' guitars - nylon string classical.

Anyway my brother and I were enjoying learning guitar sufficiently that we decided we wanted decent guitars on which to learn, so we started looking. Turns out there's an excellent Australian company called Artist Guitars that make great cheap beginner guitars. I bought the LSPBK model, which is a beginner pack that includes a great steel-string acoustic guitar (with truss rod and built-in chromatic tuner), soft carry bag and a few other things.

When it arrived I unpacked it, tuned it (the built-in tuner is REALLY useful!) and played a chord... WOW. It's a thousand times better than the awful guitars we had before! The strings all resonate in harmony instead of chaos so it sounds GREAT! The steel strings give a slightly twangier sound that I actually really like, and the body is full-size rather than 3/4 so it's a bigger sound too. It's also factory-preset at the lowest action you can safely have without buzzing so despite being stiffer, the strings are far easier to press down reliably.

The biggest thing I like about it is that when something isn't working, it's entirely my fault! With the cheap guitars, I could be doing everything perfectly and it still might not sound right (the A chord, for example, wavered horribly on those guitars).

We like my new guitar so much that Lachy (my brother) has bought one, and Dad (who used to own a good steel-string guitar but lost it years ago) has bought one as well to get back into playing. Dad has a big advantage over us, though, because both he and Mum play piano really well and took lots of music theory classes in school so they understand what Asus4 means without even trying Our youngest sister (Tabitha) wants to learn violin (but gave up on recorder - no idea how she thinks she'll be any better on a more difficult instrument), our second-youngest sister (Jess, one the four Flash Buddies) is learning flute (and doing pretty well) and our oldest sister (Alex, the second female member of Flash Buddies) is learning bass recorded and guitar.

So overall quite the musical family

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The latest Flash Buddies video is out! (It was actually out this morning but I forgot to say)



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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 17:09
Quote: "Of whom do you speak?"


I speak of the people you're flamboyantly criticising of course.

Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 18:49
Quote: "This sounds like a great idea! How about we have this be the programming competition?"


Ok, I will create a thread in Geek Culture at some point this afternoon!

It will be great and really give me a chance to finish my Breakout clone with AppGameKit I started last December!

So, benchmarks for the Fury X are sadly quite disappointing. It doesn't beat the 980ti but it is soooo close. If only they could have optimized it just *slightly* more than they had, I'm sure it would have been a 980ti death machine.

So, I guess that answers my question of which card I'll get next. A 980ti!

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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 20:13
I'm still going to get either the Fury or the Fury X. Nvidia is a scumbag company, and doesn't support anything outside of their Windows-only environment(you have to freaking recompile part of the Linux kernel because Nvidia doesn't play nice with others). AMD may not have the best hardware/drivers, but they support open-source a hell of a lot better(their open source drivers are rock solid), and don't do scummy anti-competitive things.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 20:29
Quote: "I speak of the people you're flamboyantly criticising of course."


Is it wrong to expect people to know their own language properly? I don't think so.



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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 21:39
Am I the only one thinking of Jimmy (former regular) and Cattle Rustler (former mod)?

Perfect picture should the latter mod the former.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 21:42
Quote: "Am I the only one thinking of Jimmy (former regular) and Cattle Rustler (former mod)?"


You are in fact not. I wasn't thinking of the latter though.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2015 22:23
Quote: "Am I the only one thinking of Jimmy (former regular) and Cattle Rustler (former mod)?

Perfect picture should the latter mod the former."


I tried.



The meme is always related to a gorilla in some way, so someone turn Jimmy into a gorilla.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2015 04:17 Edited at: 28th Jun 2015 03:59
Quote: "Nvidia is a scumbag company, and doesn't support anything outside of their Windows-only environment(you have to freaking recompile part of the Linux kernel because Nvidia doesn't play nice with others)."


Nvidia is a great company. They make the best graphic cards and the best drivers. I wonder whether you're having to recompile the Linux kernel not because Nvidia didn't support Linux well enough but because... Linux is rubbish?

*flame war started*

Quote: "don't do scummy anti-competitive things."


Of what scummy, anti-competitive things do you speak?

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Posted: 27th Jun 2015 07:40 Edited at: 27th Jun 2015 07:40
Yeahhh, me happy. I just wrote a DBPro program that successfully draws an anti-aliased circle using only the dot command. It just takes the original image and then compresses it to half the dimensions; each pixel of the compressed image is the average of the 4 pixels from the corresponding 2x2 area in the original image. Not sure what that method of interpolation is called, but it seems to work alright.



Definitely not the best AA I have seen, but it's AA nonetheless!

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Posted: 27th Jun 2015 10:26 Edited at: 27th Jun 2015 16:57
@Clonkex
I believe intentionally starting a flame war is against the AUP. Are you sure you want to go down this road?

/s

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It's true, ATI and Linux are both suck.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2015 13:51
Quote: "I believe intentionally starting a flame war is against the AUP. Are you sure you want to go down this road?
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Pretty sure it was just a joke....like Linux...

(This is also a joke)
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Everyone should go and check out "Her Story" on steam... I thought it was an awesome experience, if not quite a game... totally sucked me in, left me wanting and had me questioning my interpretation of it all constantly..
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Posted: 27th Jun 2015 14:27
Quote: "I believe intentionally starting a flame war is against the AUP. Are you sure you want to go down this road?"
What he said was no more outspoken than what you said! For the record, I don't pay much attention to hardware companies these days, so I agree with both/neither of you.
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I thought Dar13 might be joking too.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2015 17:18
I honestly couldn't tell if he was joking. I'm hoping he was though, I guess I've just been suffering too many trolls on other sites about this stuff.

As for the anticompetitive stuff, Nvidia just rubs me the wrong way in their approach to implementing open standards such as OpenCL. They don't have any tooling available for it and try to push everyone to CUDA instead, which is Nvidia-exclusive. Also it says a lot about the company when the creator of the most used kernel in the world calls out this specific company in public and on camera for being a pain in the butt to work with(WARNING: Bad Language).

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Quote: "...it says a lot about the company when the creator of the most used kernel in the world calls out this specific company in public and on camera for being a pain in the butt to work with"


That is one of the best videos ever to grace the web!

I did some more research and even though the Fury X isn't a 980ti destroyer, it does come really, really close. But the 4GB VRAM is probably going to be a huge bottleneck after a year so.

I guess I'll go back to my original plan of seeing how well the R9 Fury Nano will stack up against other cards, and go from there. The only real benefit I can see from going the Nvidia route would be the 6GB VRAM, but I'm not sure about that....

The R9 295x2 still holds up incredibly well, but it won't support DirectX 12. *sigh* Darn technology!


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ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrr...

Anyway did anyone know it's against the AUP to make a link look like another?

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Quote: " I did some more research and even though the Fury X isn't a 980ti destroyer, it does come really, really close. But the 4GB VRAM is probably going to be a huge bottleneck after a year so. "

Are you going to game on 4K? If not, then don't worry about VRAM. HBM is not GDDR5, and it doesn't handle usage the same way.

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Quote: "Are you going to game on 4K?"


No, the highest I'll game is at 1440p for the moment, but games like GTA V take up a LOT of VRAM. I can't max out all the settings on GTA V because my VRAM is only 3GB with my 280X, so I can't imagine 4GB would be enough for the next generation of games coming in 2016-2017. At least not for anything above 1080 or 1440p!


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I think you'd need a huge monitor for 4K to be worthwhile, or sit about 2 inches from the screen.

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So I am thinking of getting a Samsung Galaxy S6. I played with my sister's for a while this week (she has the edge) and it's sooo sweet. The device is fast, looks wonderful, has a ridiculously sharp screen (577 dpi @ 5.1" 2560x1440), and the whole edge deal is not really necessary, but quite neat. Anyone here have any good reasons I should or should not get one?
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Quote: " No, the highest I'll game is at 1440p for the moment, but games like GTA V take up a LOT of VRAM. I can't max out all the settings on GTA V because my VRAM is only 3GB with my 280X, so I can't imagine 4GB would be enough for the next generation of games coming in 2016-2017. At least not for anything above 1080 or 1440p!"

When people are testing a maxed GTA V on the Fury X, they rarely, if at all, go above 3GB VRAM on 4K. 1GB of VRAM is a lot of memory, I wouldn't be worried about hitting the max anytime soon. Also, there are AA techniques that are quite memory intensive(SSAA is one example) that are simply unnecessary on 4K due to pixel density.

Quote: "I think you'd need a huge monitor for 4K to be worthwhile, or sit about 2 inches from the screen."

Why do you say that? With a smaller 4K screen, AA becomes almost unneeded due to pixel density. Of course, you have to have a proper HiDPI OS for reading text and the like, but that's perfectly do-able on all upcoming or current OSes(Win 10 apparently has good HiDPI support, Linux's GNOME and KDE environments are pretty good, and OSX was one of the first to support HiDPI).

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Quote: "AA becomes almost unneeded due to pixel density."


But the quadrupled screen size means more rendering time anyway.

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And more points.

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Ahhhhhh the pink room in my house is finally being painted another color. Phew!
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Quote: "But the quadrupled screen size means more rendering time anyway."

True, but since AA techniques can be doubly or triply more expensive than just drawing with more memory usage the tradeoff is reasonable if not equal.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2015 05:16
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Yes yes, definitely! I meant to put a smiley after the *flame war started*. D'oh!

Quote: "The only real benefit I can see from going the Nvidia route would be the 6GB VRAM, but I'm not sure about that...."


If you can afford it, a 980ti would be an insanely future-proof card! Also I always vote Nvidia anyway, so...

Quote: "Anyone here have any good reasons I should or should not get one?"


No, the Galaxy S6 looks really good! I used to say Samsung Android devices weren't great, but they've improved dramatically with the S6 - it's now an excellent phone without the excessive Touchwiz "enhancements"

Quote: "When people are testing a maxed GTA V on the Fury X, they rarely, if at all, go above 3GB VRAM on 4K. 1GB of VRAM is a lot of memory"


I dunno where you get your data, but I can't run GTA V on highest because I run out of memory on 2GB. 1GB of VRAM definitely isn't a lot any more! You really need 4GB or more to play the latest games on ultra settings.

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Quote: " I dunno where you get your data, but I can't run GTA V on highest because I run out of memory on 2GB. 1GB of VRAM definitely isn't a lot any more! You really need 4GB or more to play the latest games on ultra settings."

I think you misread what I said. Filling an additional 1GB on top of 3GB usage is quite a lot. The Fury X has 4GB of HBM VRAM.

Rereading what I said, it's not the best wording on my part. But yeah, I definitely meant that an additional 1GB is quite a lot of graphical fidelity.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2015 05:56
Quote: "I think you misread what I said. Filling an additional 1GB on top of 3GB usage is quite a lot. The Fury X has 4GB of HBM VRAM."


You said "1GB of VRAM is a lot of memory, I wouldn't be worried about hitting the max anytime soon." I didn't make the connection between that sentence and the previous one, so it sounded to me like you were simply saying 1GB is a lot of VRAM. Which it's obviously not. Blarg

But regardless, I'm sure you'd need 5-6GB to run GTA V on ultra at 4K. To run it with less than 3GB at 4K they must have the settings really low.

Now to go help install a new vanity for our bathroom because the old one is awful and disintegrating and then see if I can get back into the programming mood to get some more work done on my game so I can eventually quit my horrid day-job

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Quote: "Now to go help install a new vanity for our bathroom because the old one is awful and disintegrating"
Ah! Same place I am in. Well my last post, I mentioned the pink bathroom in my house was being painted. Several years ago, my older sister painted the whole bathroom hot pink on the promise that she would paint it back before she moved out -- alas, that has not happened! So we are now painting it sort of a light coffee color, much better than the pink it was! I am the one doing all the painting, and I just finished the job today. Of course, a few tiny little pink spots remain and they bother my OCD to no end. Guess I'll have to hit those with the regular brush tomorrow (used a roller today for most of the job). I would do that today, but I am running on 4 hours of sleep. I had to get up early to take my other sister and her husband to Denver International Airport, a good 1.5 hour drive each way. Fun times!

Oh yeah, about the bathroom. Seems I go off on tangents when I am this tired. We are soon going to rip out the old vanity and replace it with a new one as well. The toilet is getting replaced too. We are going to rip up the nasty old linoleum flooring and replace that with tile, and also retile the bathtub/shower (which desperately needs it). Fun times!

Quote: "No, the Galaxy S6 looks really good! I used to say Samsung Android devices weren't great, but they've improved dramatically with the S6 - it's now an excellent phone without the excessive Touchwiz "enhancements""
It seems that way indeed, which is great. The device itself seems to be built of excellent quality compared to previous Galaxy S phones. I think the previous ones were all plastic except for the glass screen, but the S6 has an all metal body. Anodized aluminum on the sides (looks like an iPhone, which I actually like) and polished metal on the back, but covered with a layer of polished glass. That's a nice feature, since the glass protects the shiny metal from scratches. Way back when I got my iPod Touch a few years ago, after only 3 or so days of very very careful use, the back had dozens of visible scratches. My sister's S6 (the pink bathroom sister) hasn't a case yet, nor has it for a few weeks probably, and I couldn't spot a single scratch on the back. Great design!

Sheesh, I am wordy when I get this tired, eh?
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Quote: " But regardless, I'm sure you'd need 5-6GB to run GTA V on ultra at 4K. To run it with less than 3GB at 4K they must have the settings really low."

They were running on ultra.

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How were they running it on Ultra at 4k with less than 4GB? I can't even get things on Ultra on my 280X because it eats all 3GB of my VRAM, without it being on the highest settings.

Unless maybe they were running it with DirectX 10? That saves a significant amount of memory!


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Hmm, seems I was mistaken. They weren't running at full ultra, with AA at max and the like. They got playable framerates(46 fps) on ultra with AA turned down to minimal and a couple of other advanced settings(they didn't say which ones, but I very much doubt they dropped texture quality or anything like that. Maybe the hair stuff?). So yeah, VRAM is a limiting factor for the Fury X at 4K. Perhaps later drivers will increase the memory compression, which should allow for more utilization of the VRAM.

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Quote: "they didn't say which ones, but I very much doubt they dropped texture quality or anything like that. Maybe the hair stuff?"


The "Population Variety" setting can drastically increase vram usage when increased. Maybe they turned that down? Either way there's a several settings that use lots of vram that can be turned down without too much loss of visual quality, so that's probably what they did.

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This is pretty sick.

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Ugh I'm so dismayed.

The microphone I bought for my video projects back in March bit the dust, it was working perfectly and all of the sudden just quit working. It's too late to exchange or get a refund and the warranty is expired. So there's $55 I'll never get back.

Just a heads up, if you're buying audio equipment, and it's from a company called Polsen? Just skip over it, mmkay? Take it from me, someone who has no extra money and has to figure out how to record audio without a microphone....


Or I could just tell my brother we need to delay our video projects again and he'll hate me even more.

Maybe I should take this as a sign to just focus on game development for the future... videos appear to be my downfall.


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Yeah, a microphone I bought a bit back didn't work at all, right out of the box. At first, all of the audio that came out of it was filled with static. Over time, it got worse, and eventually I figured it may have been the battery (it's a condenser mic and has an amplifier for use with various devices). I removed the battery, tested it, and found that it was fully charged. In fact, the mic continued to work just the same without the battery as it did with the battery installed. Audio Technica brand it is.
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We decided to just buy a Blue Yeti from the get-go and be done with it. And yes, they are excellent microphones We also bought three Blue Snowballs so the other three members of Flash Buddies would have good-quality mics - the Snowballs are great mics and sound nearly as good as the Yeti, but don't have as many features (their omni mode isn't as good due to only two mics internally, for example).

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Posted: 30th Jun 2015 08:04 Edited at: 30th Jun 2015 08:08
That's the mic Rhett and Link use!

EDIT Nvm, no it's not.
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Blargh supposed to work at 6am and I can't fall asleep. Been trying for over two hours. Should I just make coffee and pull and all nighter and sleep when I get off work tomorrow? That's what I'm thinking would be the best thing to do...

@Clonkex:

I really, really want a Blue Yeti, however I need a microphone with either an XLR input/stereo input, since a lot of our videos would be away from the computer. Although, now that I think of it most of our ideas are for an animated series we want to do, so maybe I should just focus on that?


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Quote: "I really, really want a Blue Yeti, however I need a microphone with either an XLR input/stereo input, since a lot of our videos would be away from the computer. Although, now that I think of it most of our ideas are for an animated series we want to do, so maybe I should just focus on that?"


The Blue Yeti Pro outputs as XLR and USB so you can use either. More expensive than the standard Yeti, though.

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Posted: 30th Jun 2015 09:07
Quote: "Been trying for over two hours. "
Ah, so I'm not the only one who occasionally defaults to checking the forums when sleep isn't working? You could try pulling an all nighter, but naturally, you will feel perfectly awake until it's time to walk out the door, then the overwhelming desire to sleep will hit. And stay. For the whole day.
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Posted: 30th Jun 2015 09:17
Quote: "Ah, so I'm not the only one who occasionally defaults to checking the forums when sleep isn't working?"


Not by a long shot!

Quote: "You could try pulling an all nighter, but naturally, you will feel perfectly awake until it's time to walk out the door, then the overwhelming desire to sleep will hit."


Indeed, believe me, if I could I would be sleeping right now (it's 1:17am where I am), but apparently I'm going to have insomnia, so I might as well just accept it, brew some coffee, and troop through the day tomorrow. When I get home, I'll just sleep for an hour or so, get up again, and go back to bed at my regular time. Not ideal, but it seems I have no other options.

Quote: "The Blue Yeti Pro outputs as XLR and USB so you can use either."


Thanks for the tip! Will have to look into this option!


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