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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] Dynamic Shadows in FPSC x9

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Dark Goblin
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Posted: 19th Feb 2009 16:59 Edited at: 19th Feb 2009 17:00
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if you would see the floor(wall texture with relief, you would die ^^

but actually this shader doesn`t work with FPSC because of some strange problems. I hope we can fix it...
well to show you why you would die (NOTE! THIS IS NOT FPSC!:



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FPSC IP - Multiplayer Lobby System, Multiple Levels etc...
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I AM DEAD< HIHIH VERY GOOD REALY good


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The last shot from FPSC looks like heaven, its AWESOME!!
Great work!

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DAMNNNN!!!!! im dead
make sure you keep us updated with images : D
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Dark Goblin [Awesome pics] xN0MaD SP4RT4Nx

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Looks very nice. Very very nice indeed.

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Makes me want more and more : D
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I still think the bloom is turned up way too high.

Also, any chance of altering the shadows so that shadows cast further away are blurrier, whereas shadows cast closer to the object are sharper? That would be much more realistic.


Nice job with the light rays, too. Would like to see them in a video.


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@Ply: You mean like PCSS (perceptually correct soft shadows)? I believe that would take quiet some power to run, but it sure would look nice.

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@ Dark Goblin, do you think you could show us a screenshot of how it looks in a scifi enviroment ?
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Dark Goblin
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ehm
@Ply:
shadows in the distance are blurred out because of some frame improvements!

@Demonair:
Well i think i can manage this

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Posted: 20th Feb 2009 15:39 Edited at: 20th Feb 2009 15:40
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Yaay! : D Thanks
Scifi is my fave ^_^
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I don't think the shadows look too bad. At any rate they're a damn sight better than what we have at the moment. And perceptually... erm... the things Roger mentioned - would be great as well, but it wouldn't break my heart if they didn't get in.

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yeah, i agree the shadows look 100 times better than the current fpsc

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This mod is going to give us Leadwerks engine 2 features and graphics in FPSC.

I can't stop thinking about this mod and what it's going to do for our games.
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I must say that is simply amazing. Wonderful job.

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@Dark Goblin:

I realise it's an optimization routine to keep the shadows a lower res, but do you think you could provide an option to have sharper shadows at closer distance and highly blurred shadows at greater distance? It would look much better that way, IMHO, and providing it as an option would give your mod a bit more user-friendliness.


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OMG that looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are the settings adjustable ike older versions of efx mod

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oh by the way how much will this cost

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Quote: "oh by the way how much will this cost"

no comment.
read the thread and you will find your answer!

Sry but i was on a concert the whole saturday and had not a lot of sleep.

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And now it's time to show some screenshots of the original efxMod Scifi Map - a little bit reduced but it shows some of the main capabilities of the Deferred Shading.

Sorry for the yellow debug information on the left side, I didn't do a seperate compile for a non-debug-info-version.





This screenshot was made with a special normal/heightmap ... didn't know why I used that crappy maps for that...




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Looks great!

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May I ask. What exactly is Deferred shading doing in your screensots? Because it seems like it has made the scene rather murkey and cloudy. The Highmap used in the screenshot is nice, although I feel in my opinion, It doesnt really look right on the metallic sci-fi floor; And in this instance, but shadermapping every object and segment possible, you have bought the FPS down to 18 or 20, and those statistics are a bit worrying on a rig of your specifycation. You may also want to take into account, that although shaders are nice, Nearly all commercial current games don't shadermap everything in sight, and are best used sparingly in my opinion.

Looking good though

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2009 21:37
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its not the time to look at the FPS.
there are no improvements made until now...

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2009 21:38 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2009 21:40
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Well, the FPS Rate is such low, because Kaspersky Internet Security, Winamp, Photoshop, multiple Instant Messengers, FTP software and two instances of CodeSurge with a full FPSC/efx Sourcecode opened were running in the background.
(1,3 GB of 2 GB RAM used when Testgame is not running)

Did anyone ever noticed the heavy lag caused by Winamp? I noticed recurring lags and a heavy fps loss with winamp running.


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Quote: "Did anyone ever noticed the heavy lag caused by Winamp? I noticed recurring lags and a heavy fps loss with winamp running."


hmm, nope. I always have winamp running in the background. Never seen a problem with it.

The screenshots look amazing. btw.

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Deffered shading is what STALKER uses, or more precisely the X-Ray engine. I can't say exactly what it is, but I think it means that the engine renders all shadows and effects in one pass? Either way, I loved how STALKER looked, especially Clear Sky, and I love how this is coming along. You'll have my money for sure when this is done.

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Same here

Amazing job on this mod. The EFX team really are the business when it comes to next gen graphics.

I think you've made a very good choice going with FPSC development as most commercial enginges that have these effects all require programming and in some cases semi professional knowledge of game development.

Implementing these features into a game engine which is as flexible and user friendly as FPSC makes the achievement even more spectacular.

This mod has my full support whether it has a price tag on it or released with a free version. You guys deserve to make some money for giving the community the benefit of your talents.
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First screenshot reminded me of a level from Metal Gear Solid. It looks very cool, can't wait for it to come out.

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so now is the time to show you that also Parallax Mapping is now working:





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Very Nice DG!. I see you fianlly got that bloody TEXCORD command in your shader to work

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I never thought I'd see parallax mapping for segments or dynamic soft shadows in FPSC X9. You've managed to squeeze in both, and I sure as heck wish I'd been a beta tester for this.

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well we have some tester but this version has no one except of 3 people (with me) ^^

so you know that only the Helix Member has a version of this Mod and there will be no change until we sort out some really big bugs!

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and them sweet unrestricted framerates

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Quote: "and them sweet unrestricted framerates"

That has already been achived by many people by the way Check Out S4real's Latest MOD for uncapped Framerates.

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uncapped Framerates are also in Airmod-.-

so every Mod which uses Airmod has uncapped Framerates

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um you can uncap the framerate by pressing "x" in testgame mode without a mod...

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Quote: "um you can uncap the framerate by pressing "x" in testgame mode without a mod..."


Doesn't that just un-sync it?


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Then it goes too fast.

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Quote: "Then it goes too fast. "


lol go figure, makes my fps rate go to 6...

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Quote: "lol go figure, makes my fps rate go to 6..."

That's usually after pressing 'u'.

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Can anyone say "off-topic"?

Anything new to tell about the project? Perhaps some new eye-candy to feed our shallow hunger for effet goodyness?

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Off topic.

I'm keen to see some more of that excellent relief mapping as well.

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i have adjusted the Bloom so that it doesn`t look like the whole screen is blured.
just want to know what you think about it:



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Looks a bit better now, doesn't look as 'misty' as the previous screen. I've always liked bloom better when it's more subtle and not as intense as some early X10 projects...
I'd say that amount is just right. But I'm guessing you will incorporate the ability to adjust it in-game later?

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well i think there will be the good old efx Gui to adjust all settings (and also set the Time of the Day ^^)

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Awesome! Time of the day, does that mean you're going to incorporate directional lighting as well?

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its implemented ^^

the sun cast light rays

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This looks great!

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