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Dark Goblin
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Posted: 8th Feb 2009 20:36 Edited at: 28th Feb 2009 11:05
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Well I am working on dynamic shadows and Depth of Field in FPSC x9 for 3 days now and thought i need to show you my results.

The shadows are working (not correctly but i am working on it) and the DoF and Bloom is also working.

So a little list of all features:

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=working on(bugs)
=not implemented yet

- Bloom
- DoF
- Water
- Dynamic Shadows
- Time of Day Lightning
- (Good!) Normal Mapping
- Relief Mapping
- Parallax Mapping
- Motion Blur
- Light Rays

and here to pics and one vid I have uploaded in the german community:







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ToH2UKqok

feel free to post comments ^^

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Man, that first pic hurts my eyes. What exactly is it trying to focus on anyway?

Great job getting all these nice things to work, though!

I have a question, so we don't confuse people:
What are the system specs you run this Mod under?


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You took the word's right out of my mouth Plystire.

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well really good pc ^^
need to add some tweaks ^^

HD4870, 2GB DDR2 800 RAM, Intel C2D@3GHZ

but on some other pc`s i have tested with some middle to low end specs it also runs at 40-FPS

Pic1: well it should focus on that platform, but haven`t exactly pointed at it ^^

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So what are you planning to do with this, release it, or what?

EDIT: Can you shrink the pictures so we can see it better, so we dont have to scroll?

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this is great even though it is almost a little too blurry but at least it works

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dynamic lights are really good good job on that mate


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well I think i will release it if i have finished working on it or it will become part of efxMod...

don`t know ^^

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I never did understand the big fascination with Bloom... looking at it always reminded me of how things looked after opening my eyes in chlorinated pool water. (The effect of doing that would linger for the rest of the day, making everything look..... Bloomy )


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here to pics without bloom and DoF to show the shadows:





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Posted: 8th Feb 2009 21:10 Edited at: 8th Feb 2009 21:14
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Where's the light source? I can't judge the shadows very well without knowing exactly where the light's coming from.

From what I can see... it looks like the light has a bit of "leakage" through your pillar onto the ceiling.

And.... I don't know which shadows are dynamic and which are lightmapped.


[EDIT]

Okay, I'm confused now... is this for efxMod?? Or are you starting a new Mod?? What's going on with this? This looks like a development thread for a new Mod, if I'm not mistaken.

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well as i said in my first post, there are some bugs concerning the dynamic shadows, they are not placed 100% like they should (that thing with the ceiling!).

and there are no lightmapped shadows. all shadows shown on the screens are 100% dynamic and none of DarkLights or any other Stock FPSC Light!

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Hmm, so it recalculates the lighting every frame?

Have you tried adding more than 7 lights? If I remember rightly that was the dynamic light limit...

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you can add mor than 7 lights, but you will have a very low framerate. i need to write a system with searches for the nearest lights and will "activate" them, to get rid of low FPS.

and yes, actually it renders the shadows every frame. i have a system working which only renders them if something moves, but for now it doesn`t render if i walk through a door. but i think i will find a fix for that and that will definetly get more FPS.

With activated "searching" i get around 90FPS, but if you pick up an object it drops to 40-50.

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Yeah I agree with Plystire - what is the fascination with bloom? I can see using it maybe ONCE during the course of a game, like when emerging from a tunnel into daylight. But I don't understand using it on everything, some people must like their games to look like a blurry mess (like nine out of ten X10 games).

Good luck with the shadows though - I would LOVE that.

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You guy's are right. Bloom is neat, but over use...

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Quote: "Okay, I'm confused now... is this for efxMod?? Or are you starting a new Mod?? What's going on with this? This looks like a development thread for a new Mod, if I'm not mistaken. "


well at the moment it has nothing to do with efx.

it will get a part of it some day, but actually its something like a new mod!

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A mod, or an add on.

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Posted: 8th Feb 2009 22:02 Edited at: 8th Feb 2009 22:03
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...?

i have written a mod, so whats wrong?

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Nothing is wrong. I am asking if this will be an actual MOD, like efx, or some kind of scripts and shaders or something for the official. But I'm guessing it will be a seperate mod.

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this will become a mod.

because these effects can`t be created only with scripts

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As I thought. Okay. Please excuse my ignorance.

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New mod to FPSC! Finally. Is this going to be free?? Please???
It looks so great.

Are you going to add 'air' to your mod? So, if you go under water you lose air and when air is end you get killed.
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don`t know if it would be free or not.

it depends of the work i need for this and if it gets part of efxMod

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please make it free btw screens and video looks great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8UBh7IY828 private war trailer
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well now i have areally big problem conercning the Lightning of the scene.

for now i have no idea how to correct this problem to get the world lightmapped right!
i hope i will find a fix for this or the whole mod has no future.

wish me the best

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DoF will be incredibly hard to get working correctly, as you have to work out exactly what the player camera is focusing on. I would actually not bother including it all, as it is just annoying.

Much better however is motion blur, which can probably be calculated more easily.q

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yeah but the main part of this mod are the dynamic shadows and they aren`t working like they should

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sry for doublepost but there are new information:

i finally got the lightning bug fixed and are now working on parallax mapping and all the other stuff!

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excellent, good job there

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thx, here is another screen i made (sry but the alpha was messed up on all objects with alpha! and also i have the aspect/fov bug in this version... so the shadows aren`t exactly like they should)



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Huh, nice work, movable lights would be awesome as it would make all the shadows move awesomely. Nice work...


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so here is a video (with good Framerate ^^) to show the shadows.
The Barrel is completly black because it has a textur error, but i think thats not important:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksztcSdenT8&feature=channel

EDIT:

and one new screen to show how the lights mix ^^:



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Cool!

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omg!! It is super mega cool perfect mod!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8UBh7IY828 private war trailer
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last screeny looks great
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OMG WOWOW This is so great look at those dynamic lights , i would die for it, actually not because then it means that i wont be able to MAKE GAMES lol,

but you gave so many ideas, i think I am gonna grave myself into Darkbasic Pro lol


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BEAUTIFULreally nice man!

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thx for all your good comments on this.

i will keep you up to date with all news about this.

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just a qeustion will the new helix mod, be for comercial and noncomercial or only noncomercial use?


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the efxFree Edition will always be for noncommercial.

if you want to use it for commercial projects, you need to buy the full version (which will be available than ^^)

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so 2 last pics from today.






you see the Lightsource in it but remember that all lights are positioned ingame.

EDIT:
sry for doublepost, haven`t seen my old post!

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Really nice Work so far, Dark Goblin!

It's a pretty neat Addition to the Fps Creator, because the old Dynamic Shadows are... Erm, we all know which Word should follow.

Hope to see more from you and your Modification.

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Just watched the videos

Really nice. This is great work as you've even managed to make them soft shadows.

Hope this makes it into the next EFX mod release.
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this is great
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This is truly awesome, just the thing I wanted for FPSC. Keep up the great work!

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Fantastic work! I'd definately but EFX once the commercial version comes out. Can't wait to see more! Does the lighting take any longer to render than standard FPSC lighting?

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I want it really badly now

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Wow, Looks awesome. The lighting looks alot better, although I think there just static not dynamic though. Dynamic would mean moving objects or scenery. Any tests on characters?
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50 post, just wanted too trow that

but I see low framecount, 19!!


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