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FPS Creator X10 / FPS Creator X10 Work in progress shots April 2007

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Trinity Pictures
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Posted: 22nd May 2007 15:52 Edited at: 22nd May 2007 15:53
Quote: " GASP! Great graphics! When is the release date/month? I will DEFINITELY be buying this, heck, I'll even get vista for it.
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I've already spent over 1,000 USD getting ready for FPSC X10!

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Posted: 22nd May 2007 16:16 Edited at: 22nd May 2007 16:21
maybe this is not important but the Techdemo works on a HD2900XT from ATi

so this:

"Requires Vista & GeForce 8800"

should be changed to

"Requires Vista & DirectX 10 graphics card"

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Posted: 22nd May 2007 17:36
This looks great! But I feel like a traitor for wanting to ditch X9 for this
Quote: "I've already spent over 1,000 USD getting ready for FPSC X10!"
Holy cow! I'm going to have to spend that much too but I'm only going to if I win a free copy of X10. It's kinda like a deal I made with myself
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Posted: 22nd May 2007 19:01
Quote: "Holy cow! I'm going to have to spend that much too but I'm only going to if I win a free copy of X10. It's kinda like a deal I made with myself
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check out the thread that says:
call for levels to be used in fpsc x10

thats the best chance on the forums for getting a free copy of x10.

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Posted: 22nd May 2007 19:58
Already finished my entry I hope I win please, please, please let win a copy!
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Posted: 22nd May 2007 22:10
Oh some questions about X10. Do your changes with the sliders (ambient light, water, etc) automatically save when you exit test game so you can re-test it without having to re-optimise it again or is there a "save changes" button or something? Is there a fog and fog color slider? And does the water slider effect the whole map or only the floor (level) you are on? Please try and answer these questions soon,
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Posted: 23rd May 2007 05:52
When is the release date officially or has it changed again?

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 06:04
Quote: "When is the release date officially or has it changed again?"

I think we all want to know that....but chill, would you rather have a mediocre game engine now...or an awesome one a year from now?

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 06:41 Edited at: 23rd May 2007 06:41
your right trinity pictures, I want the best engine i can get.

to the ones thats trapped inside of you, this is it!!
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Posted: 23rd May 2007 06:46 Edited at: 23rd May 2007 06:47
I want the best to, but lets say it takes a year, will there be a new OS to make Vista obsolete by then? I am just saying, there is all this tlak about it posted and a demo, but why can a release date not be locked on? It seems like they are draging out the release. Either way it is OK as I am working on my other projects, but it is the point that the date keeps geting pushed back. Maybe we will hear about it in the next newsletter. I am glad I did not switch to Vista yet as it FPSCX10 is not even available yet. They can take their time, as it will mean prices for the new technology will go down.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 08:09
This is going to cost me a fortune

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 08:24
but then again, there's only so much manpower at TGC. so they can't make an affordable, high quality game engine in a short amount of time without disrupting their normal lives.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 08:33
Quote: "but then again, there's only so much manpower at TGC. so they can't make an affordable, high quality game engine in a short amount of time without disrupting their normal lives."


I do not agree with that. They made this thread a while ago. Why make it if it was not going to be ready.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 09:11
I get a copy, but I'm giving it away to someone after i get I'll pick someone.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 15:49
Quote: "I do not agree with that. They made this thread a while ago. Why make it if it was not going to be ready."


Would you not want to promote your products?
In that case please do not post anything unless it is ready to sell. I mean we should get rid of the WIP board completely because some projects take a long time to finish.

With myself being a senoir programmer at my work (which is a small company) it does take time to develop great things, it also takes away family time. I am sure almost everyone if not everyone at TGC's has a family of some sort which they forfit in order to work on new/upcoming projects.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 17:35
Guys when it's out it's out no sense whining about it. I for one hope it takes longer so I have more chance at winning it and so the hardware prices go down.
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Posted: 23rd May 2007 19:43
Quote: "Would you not want to promote your products?
In that case please do not post anything unless it is ready to sell. I mean we should get rid of the WIP board completely because some projects take a long time to finish.

With myself being a senoir programmer at my work (which is a small company) it does take time to develop great things, it also takes away family time. I am sure almost everyone if not everyone at TGC's has a family of some sort which they forfit in order to work on new/upcoming projects."


I have never posted a game in here because I have not made one 100% ready to sell. On top of that, any company who has made a game does not publicize it until they have a finished product. So, am I crying about it. No, but I dont think its fair to some of the people who are buying all these upgrades to not have the product. When FPSCX10 was first made, prices for hardware were up. Now, later on, they have dropped. But what about the people who thought they were geting a product soon and upgraded. If you think thats fair then we have adifference of opinion. I was going to upgrade right away, but I did not because I decided I would just wait as I wanted to finish my own project first. I am glad I did. Maybe in the next newsletter we will hear about it. The delay does not affect me as I cna wait all day and year. But what about everyone else who upgraded immediately because they thought they were going to get X10 soon. If you could not tlel not everyone in here has money. So, I feel that was slightly unfair to make poeople think they were going ot get a product sooner then later. That was my entire point.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 20:13 Edited at: 23rd May 2007 20:15
that's strange....its a WIP screenies board but there hasn't been any screenies in two pages.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 20:43
Quote: "I have never posted a game in here because I have not made one 100% ready to sell. On top of that, any company who has made a game does not publicize it until they have a finished product."


I can go on download.com and download thousands of games that are not finished.

Either way not to get into a flame war I am ending it here.
If you did go out and buy the latest stuff it was your decision not TGC making you buy it. They are not making you buy anything.
Just like Microsoft releasing Vista. You do not need to buy Vista, or upgrade your computer. You just won't get to use the new Areo (I believe it is called that) look.

Again for those who think it is unfair, this is how companies work, you need to wait until they finish stuff before you decide on what to do.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 21:27 Edited at: 23rd May 2007 21:29
I just thought, i've seen no screens with the WWII media in them, has that been cut? Is the stock media ganna be sci-fi only?

@Grunge: Theres not much point as that one would only work for scifi games. They should have their generic one, and people can just make their own

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 21:27
Quote: "I can go on download.com and download thousands of games that are not finished.

Either way not to get into a flame war I am ending it here.
If you did go out and buy the latest stuff it was your decision not TGC making you buy it. They are not making you buy anything.
Just like Microsoft releasing Vista. You do not need to buy Vista, or upgrade your computer. You just won't get to use the new Areo (I believe it is called that) look.

Again for those who think it is unfair, this is how companies work, you need to wait until they finish stuff before you decide on what to do."

Honestly thats not the way all companies work, but if you believe that then I feel sorry for the company who you work for who makes you think that is OK. There is nothign to get into a flame war about. On top of that, I am not mad at TGC, I just think they put a little bit to much hype into X10 before it was obviously ready to launch. As far as comparing this to Vista, they said they had Beta Versions and then a final version. I dont see how you cna compare the two. As far as downloading games that ar enot done, well if they were for testing thats understandable, but to relase a game thats not done to just release it, that makes no sense. But I dont feel a need to try to get my view across, so good luck in whatever you do and I wish you the best.

Quote: "that's strange....its a WIP screenies board but there hasn't been any screenies in two pages. "


This extends my point



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Posted: 23rd May 2007 21:59
Quote: "that's strange....its a WIP screenies board but there hasn't been any screenies in two pages."


That's because I told everybody to post anything about x10 in this thread instead of starting 10 new threads about it every day.

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 22:30 Edited at: 23rd May 2007 22:31
lol i think 10 is a bit of an exaggeration it was more like 8

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LOL> Not only funny but a good point as well.

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Either way I believe we can both agree that companies some times hype up their products too much before they are avaliable.

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IS FPSC X10 going to be resealed this century, it was supposed to be released a the end of April its been almost a month since then. Where is it????????

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Hey lee, where is the jetpack I was promised 10 years ago.Also if you have any spare time finish inventing the x10 card that can fit in my cell, I WANT TEH GRA4ORXXXXX.

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Quote: "IS FPSC X10 going to be resealed this century, it was supposed to be released a the end of April its been almost a month since then. Where is it????????"

Patience, grasshopper.

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Posted: 24th May 2007 04:58
Quote: "Either way I believe we can both agree that companies some times hype up their products too much before they are avaliable."


I agree with that for sure. Almost every company does that. Thats the marketing technique.

Quote: "Hey lee, where is the jetpack I was promised 10 years ago.Also if you have any spare time finish inventing the x10 card that can fit in my cell, I WANT TEH GRA4ORXXXXX."


That was hilarious. The way its oging they are going to have the next Version of Windows out after Vista. But seriously though, despite my comments I do appreciate TGC puting in new features like the swiming etc. Either way, they still have a good product.

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lol, funny candle.

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We should get back on to the imaginary topic.

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May 24th 2007

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I'm just saying theres been no official news on the released date since the April news letter, that was wrong, and it's a month later.

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Rick Vanner is in charge or when x10 will be released.You can either wait for him to post something or you can e-mail him and ask him.

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Ricks not really awnsering his mail I sent somthing 5 days ago and still havn't recieved a reply.
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I swear some companies just don't know how to deal with customers. If you run into problems that are delaying you, let us know. We will understand. Don't say anything and we have to assume you don't care.
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Quote: "Ricks not really awnsering his mail I sent somthing 5 days ago and still havn't recieved a reply."


I think Rick might be on vacation. I can't remember when he told me he was going to take it.

That might be the reason why he isn't responding.

Either way, you have to wait. Just like the Halo hype. wait is all you can do. Keep playing with FPSC X9 and keep learning so when you get FPS X10 you can create some amazing stuff right off the bat.

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Yeah I'm not PO-ed or anything it's just strange. I don't think Rick should have chosen now as his vacation time plus he said something like "it's hell down here at TGC!" I actually want them to take there sweet time with X10 and make it built in with better saving and loading in built games, very little bugs etc. Although if it's so busy at TGC right now I can see why he might want a vacation. What Halo hype?
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I don't think Rick is one of the developers but I could be wrong, so it wouldn't really matter if he went on vacation.
Be kinda like the president taking a vacation that owns a tech company. He doesn't need to be there to make software

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yeah well the TGC team must be really small like Rick Lee and Benge or something...
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Okay...Rick is the head marketing guy for TGC...so he decides when x10 is released.
The bottom line is that TGC's policy about releasing stuff is...
"we will release it when we release it".

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I thought I might as well show some more pics, since I'm starting on some texture variations. Nothing fancy, but notice how well X10 does lighting, the characters even cast shadows on themselves!

First pic, dramatic lighting closeup.

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Second, he's checking you out.

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Third pic, I don't think he likes you! Notice the hand casting it's shadow across the chest.

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Glistening outdoors.

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kewl,

is shadow opacity based off the ambient light level?

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sweet! but whats the green line going through his head?!
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The bar above him is his health, right? Is that a custom feature you did.. or is it in X10?

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Quote: "The bar above him is his health, right? Is that a custom feature you did.. or is it in X10?"


I don't know what it is yet...and if I did I couldn't tell you anyway!

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Thats what figure, about a 3 man team with maybe the occasional free lancer helping out. I just wish they would get their act together and give us updates at least once a week. That really isn't allot to ask

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