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AlanC
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Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
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Posted: 16th Feb 2008 21:55 Edited at: 16th Feb 2008 21:56
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Quote: "Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU"


Is that a joke? The Website clearly says, you need a Shadermodel 2.0 card

Your graphics card is incompatible with the Mod, AlanC

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Posted: 16th Feb 2008 23:08 Edited at: 16th Feb 2008 23:31
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nOOb question, how do I find out my specs?

EDIT: This software may be laggy, but here's what I managed to create under a minute!


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I get the same problem fallen one, and I'm using normal skyboxes.
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Posted: 16th Feb 2008 23:45 Edited at: 16th Feb 2008 23:53
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Quote: "Your graphics card is incompatible with the Mod, AlanC"


Omg really?

Great, now I gotta uninstall FPSC, but its my fault.

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Welcome to the club mate....

I'm managing though.....

Hang on, is that smoke coming outta my computer tower?

@Nighthawk

I recommend you use HDR bloom, it needs less graphical push and is just as good......

There's alotta people here who don't have "middle-end" PC setups.....

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Check this out its amazing i love efx

Jfac rules

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 00:15 Edited at: 17th Feb 2008 00:16
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coffee grunt, there's absolutely no advantage of HDR Bloom (this even doesn't make sense if you think about the technical aspect)

the HDR Bloom takes 2 passes - the actual way we render our bloom takes only 1 pass

the main thing that is causing such lag is the resolution of the water cameras

there are 2 always updated images from the Reflection and Refraction camera
both 1024x1024 px in size

the performance is much better with a lower resolution, but at 256x256 it looks like crap

i'll see what i can do for you all (changing water res was planned somehow or other)

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 00:25
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Hey, this looks great! I feel real angsty for not being able to test it out until next sunday, my computer's 150 km away.

Anyhow, will test it out as soon as I can. Looks really great.
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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 01:12
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Quote: "i'll see what i can do for you all (changing water res was planned somehow or other)"


Does that mean increasing the speed? Whatever. I do have to congratulate you on this, NightHawk. Great mod!

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 01:26 Edited at: 17th Feb 2008 01:27
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You can't use doors whit this mod
If you want to open a door,you hear the sound that she opens.But the door remains closed.
Sometimes it happened that if a door is open.
You can not go.
I use beta 8
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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 01:44 Edited at: 17th Feb 2008 01:45
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Quote: "You can't use doors whit this mod
If you want to open a door,you hear the sound that she opens.But the door remains closed.
Sometimes it happened that if a door is open.
You can not go.
I use beta 8"



i thought i was crazy, and it was just me.... guess not



also nighthawk, after using your mod since day 1 of tgc forum release, it broke my light mapper and i couldnt use lightmapping at all untill i uninstalled your mod, should work on that...

You'll Know When You See It.

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Anyway to stop water from being in it at all? I
think it could add back some FPS and I just want the bloom.

Astek


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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 02:07
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Same here.....
I think he said that would be possible in 1.5.....
When will 1.5 be out?



Bitte, Herr Nighthawk, Ich liebe das bloom! Aber, mein computer ist furchtbar!

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Quote: "You can't use doors whit this mod"


I only tested it with the MP3 Blue Door, but it worked for me.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 02:39
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I take it my graphic card caused this too?

The underwater doesn't work.....

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 02:42
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Quote: "Aber, mein computer ist furchtbar!"


Lol, first I read it as fruchtbar, which kind of sounds like fertile. XD
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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 02:44
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? I don't know what German is for Fertile......

New screenie of a short level I'm working on, so far, all doors are working...

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...and another, I'm gonna try and keep the water outta the way, shame I can't remove it altogether to save frames.....

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I removed the mod,doe not work from me
I still have that door problems
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Looking good, coffee grunt.
My graphics card is an ATI RADEON 9550 AGP. Is that good or bad?

PS: coffee grunt, are you getting any lag?

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10fps....

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 03:04 Edited at: 17th Feb 2008 03:17
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Whoops. Made a mistake....

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ZUPER!!..SUPER! I like it!

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in the next version can only add option to see the menu only near game editing and when poste the game.exe to cannot user see the mod etc. and the mod option /value...

I can build one game with this mod "but only the creator can change the water size.. color ...etc..?

Because i think to release final game using this mod must have this little option..

"i love about what i see using this mod"..
GWork..

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 05:45 Edited at: 17th Feb 2008 05:45
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Well got it workin'.

Here's a screenshot. Looks absolutely amazing.


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bababababbababa BLOOOOOMMMMM! Bye all, I have to go blur up my FPSC world!

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Tasty.

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Quote: "there's absolutely no advantage of HDR Bloom"


Not true, with HDR you can make dark scenes visible(and it's slightly more realistic), as many FPSC projects suffer from rather poor illumination. However DBP is is not really capable of any true HDR implementation so I guess it doesn't really matter. But on its own HDR has no relation to bloom as they are very different effects.

Quote: "(this even doesn't make sense if you think about the technical aspect)"


It does, HDR on its own will only serve to normalize the average brightness of the rendered scene, it won't add any bloom on its own, however it's quite common to implement bloom with HDR to give a better sense of brightness for brighter light sources, so you could call this HDR bloom, as that's essentially what it is.

Quote: "the HDR Bloom takes 2 passes - the actual way we render our bloom takes only 1 pass"


The bloom that can be coupled with HDR should or can use the same technique as you would use with standard bloom, as HDR on its own does not have/need bloom. So with HDR you can have 1,2 or 5 pass bloom(or none). However for typical bloom rendering(for fast and good quality), 2 passes should be the minimum, using one pass will make small light sources look quite poor(assuming you only do H and V samples) compared to using two passes, if you do diagonal samples too then they may look the same but you'd end up doing double the amount of samples than you would with a standard 2 pass setup which will be slower.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 10:11
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Man, i'm seriously hoping for an update in speed increase...

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In test game i can't open the menu, i'm using V1.8


I get this error message when i open fpsc

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Posted: 17th Feb 2008 11:27 Edited at: 17th Feb 2008 11:32
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AaronG discovered the "hidden feature"

ok, just joking


Quote: "The underwater doesn't work....."


Yep, found out
but it works for me when changing underwatercolor with the Customizer (after closing it disappears)

and i also found out it's affected by physics (and that doesn't make any sense)

i'm currently bughunting, 1.5 should be out at the end of the month or mid March

but there's still 1.49 left...


Quote: " In test game i can't open the menu, i'm using V1.8"


could you specify that?


Quote: "I get this error message when i open fpsc"


That's the efxMod Service, not the FPSC
Try running it in Admin Mode or reinstalling it

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If anyone wants to know their pc specs, download cpuz.

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I tried to install and the status stayed at 0% any advise?
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Deactivating Antivirus software and/or firewalls and if you use Vista, try running it in Admin Mode

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i get 22fps all the time on my new (not exactly new) 9800XT 256mb!

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thats pretty good for that type of card

whats with the FPS when the customizer is opened?


@ Hardcore:

Quote: "I tried to install and the status stayed at 0% any advise?"


Maybe it's caused by the Downloader-Module of the Loader
It's file-oriented, that means the progressbar changes when a complete file is downloaded

i don't know your connection speed, but with 56k or 128k (ISDN) it can take a long time to download...
try the ZIP Version instead, it's smaller and works for sure

(i think it was on page 3 of this thread)

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Quote: "That's the efxMod Service, not the FPSC
Try running it in Admin Mode or reinstalling it"


tryed that now get this!



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Try downloading the MFC71.DLL from the internet
Maybe you get a message that another DLL is missing, then

it's a thing of DBP... it's not a efxMod Error

but it should work when you download those DLLs

http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?mfc71

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how do you get the reflex mapping to work?

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TY Nighthawk but sorry to be a pain, where do i put that dll file?

EDIT; NVM i did it, i'm having a dumb day

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C:WindowsSystem32

if C: is your system HDD/partition

@ bum fat cheese:
there's a help file telling you, how it works
but you need software like Photoshop or GIMP... or at least CrazyBump

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thanks for the support Nighthawk, i got it working and WOW

EDIT; here is a screen shot i did!



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Wow, some LightFX would make that scene beautiful.


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Wow I can't tell which is which between x9 x10.

A job well done.!!!!!!



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Nice screenshot. The bloom may be a little high. =]

Hm...Underwater is not working for me.

But everything else is beautiful.


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I'm seriously thinking of getting back to X9 till X10 is sorted out...

Some things like AI ect might not be 100% in X9 at least you got the graphical improvement without having to sell some thing personal like kidney's on the black market...

However with that said I think this creator should look at getting this mod sold...with some more neat added features as it shows TGC how it should be done instead of ignoring it....

I really wouldn't mind paying for this at all if it includes more neat features with better support than what we are getting from TGC....right now

No offence TGC you just haven't proved your self todate and your work is always under preforming or some thing else is missing...

To the creator thanks for all your effort you have put into this project I'm hoping your getting as much joy from this as we are getting from it...

I hope this is an expanding project with lots more added features to make FPSC users mouths drool and wet their...um er shoes.


You have proven that shaders can be successfully intergrated with in FPSC.Which proves that any thing can be done well almost any thing at least.

Now where is my list of things FPSC should have.AAHH found it under things FPSC will never see.........

Thanks again for your wonderful work and may this be motivation to continue with this great project...

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Thanks so much, wizard of id

This is a great motivation and we'll keep working on the efxMod, for sure


If you have any ideas on new features, write me an email

kevin [at] helixsoftware.eu

(Replace [at] with @ and remove the spaces)

Also if you found any bugs that are not listed here (in the whole thread or in the Help File) just contact me.

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Are you planning to release an intermediate bug fix? Or will we still have to wait until mid march?
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Yeah not sure if it is a bug or some one reported it before.

But while looking at an area that has bloom moving up or down displaces the bloom till you stop moving...

Yeah thanks for the offer on the email but I wouldn't want to impose on your ideas you already have which is great by the way...

I really only have four features I would love to see in FPSC..

Directional and spot lighting
More shaders (metal,heathaze shader ect...)
And my most precious of all a particle system
Proper Dynamic lighting(In other words A dynamic light that casts a dynamic shadow)


Not really new feature is it not possible to add water like a segments will add plenty new options instead of having your whole level flooded and bloom having it only active in certain areas in other words switching bloom on or off by use of sripts

thanks

Feel almost guilty asking you for these features instead of asking TGC.....

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