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Rob K
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@Hamish,

I've emailed the reg. details to you. If you haven't received it let me know and I'll resend it.

@Mouse,

Added for next release.

@Scraggle,

Question Message now has an extra flag which allows you to specify custom combinations of buttons from Yes, No, OK, Cancel, Abort, Retry, Ignore, All, NoToAll, YesToAll, Help.


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@Rob - I don't appear to have recieved any email, you probably can't send to my hotmail address as you don't actually know that it's me that regestered . Try again, the email on the form was correct as I recieved a confirmation email from share-it. Thanks.

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Quote: "Question Message now has an extra flag which allows you to specify custom combinations of buttons from Yes, No, OK, Cancel, Abort, Retry, Ignore, All, NoToAll, YesToAll, Help."


Fantastic Service!!!

You're a good man Rob.

Quote: "Also could the CREATE GADGET RADIOBUTTON be change so that it has a caption in much the same way as SET GADGET CHECKBOX does?"

I thought I would quote myself incase you missed it the first time because I edited the post with this so it could easily have been overlooked.
On a similar note: Would it also be possible to have an additional flag for checkboxes and radiobuttons to display the label on either the left or right?

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Posted: 1st Jan 2004 19:42 Edited at: 1st Jan 2004 19:53
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Thanks Rob, recieved it.

One small problem that I've noticed is that windows only come to the top of all the other windows once they have been clicked and released on the title bar, when they should be raised as soon as they are clicked. Also they should raise to the top if they are clicked on any other part, not just the title bar. This has probably already been said, but I just noticed it when looking at the matrix sample program.

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Hi Hamish,

I suggest that instead of having child windows as in the matrix example, you make them independant of the main window, and use bring gadget to front each loop to force them to stay on top.

Hi Scraggle,

Both are already in the plugin.

create gadget radiobutton gadgetid[,text$] is already there - but the text$ optional parameter is undocumented.

Use align gadget text to specify which side the label goes on.


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Thanks for that. Request for gadget in next update, a slider (click and slide it up and down, probably vertical and horizontal version). Please . I'm finding this really cool so far.

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Thanks Rob

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2004 11:22 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2004 11:25
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Hi Rob,

You said this in a previous post:
Quote: "Yes you can have transparent images but the image gadget which holds it cannot be transparent.

You cannot currently set the transparent colour via a command, however, it currently depends on the image.

The colour of the first pixel in the image (at the top left hand corner) is used as the transparent colour for the image. Generally you can load an image and the background colour will automatically be made transparent.
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I am trying to set the images on my FLATBUTTON GADGETS to be non-transparent. So after reading your post(above) I put a single magenta pixel in the top-left corner of my image, here:

(You will need to enlarge it to see the magenta pixel.)

Despite this the red area is always transparent. I thought that maybe it was because magenta was a similar colour to red but I have other gadgets that are blue, green, yellow, black and white and they have the same results.

Any ideas?

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Rob, how do the tabs work? Can you specify a parent tab for other gadgets that are created, or do you have to hide and show gadgets manually depending on which tab is active?

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2004 23:48 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2004 01:02
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Don't worry about the tabs problem, I've sussed it. Now another problem , that putting the window forward thing didn't work that well, the window flickers a lot and when you click on another window it pops to the top while you're holding it and flickers a bit. I thought this would happen as the windows are refreshed at a faster rate than the db program. Is there any chance of an "always on top of main window" flag ? Not an always on top of everything flag as that would clash with other programs running at the same time. Just a suggestion. Thanks.

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I think also the value returned by GET SCROLLBAR() should be updated even while the scrollbar is clicked, not when it is released. I'm trying to provide feedback btw, sorry if I sound too critical .

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Hi Rob,

Thanks ! As Scraggle said, that's good service.

Just out of curiosity, do you happen to know what Windows' limit for items in a treeview is? I was considering pushing one to 10,251

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Quote: "I am trying to set the images on my FLATBUTTON GADGETS to be non-transparent. So after reading your post(above) I put a single magenta pixel in the top-left corner of my image, here:"


Try putting the magenta pixel in the lower left corner of the image, if that doesn't work try the other corners.

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Thanks for pointing out the obvious winch

I suppose I should have thought to try that myself. Sometimes I just need a kick up the rear to see the obvious.

Just for the record it is the lower left pixel that is used as a transparent colour.

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Aaargh!!!

My project has come to a halt

Rob. I am in need of a new command before I can continue my project.

We have got ENABLE GADGET and we have got DISABLE GADGET but there is no way to GET GADGET ENABLED.

Sorry if I sound like a pest but is there any way you could find the time to squeeze this one in because I can't continue without it.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2004 12:09 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2004 12:09
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why you dont write your own function for that? all you need is to log if you disable a gadget or not.

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Of Course!

That's twice today I have needed someone to point out the obvious for me. Maybe I'm getting old

Thanks

It could still be a handy command to incorperate though.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2004 13:59 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2004 18:06
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I have a query... in the help files for the scrollbar gadget it says this...

"Initially, the position of the slider can go from 0 to 100."

I scale the slider to 200 across and it still remains only able to go from 0 to 100. How do I change the amount of steps that a scrollbar can have? Thanks.

EDIT

I'm wondering if you could add a set selected item command for comboboxes and listboxes. In your matrix example you use set gadget text but that doesn't work either. Thanks again.

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Posted: 4th Jan 2004 17:49 Edited at: 4th Jan 2004 20:07
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@ Hamish

I believe the scrollbar can only be set with a range of 0-100.

I neeeded one with a range of 0-10000. So I multiplied the result of GET SCROLLBAR by 100. It worked but with a low accuracy, each step was one hundred units. So I set a second scrollbar with a standard range of 0-100 and called it 'Fine Tune' adding the results together. It worked fine but it is far from an ideal solution.

I would like to be able to change the range as I'm sure would many others.

As for your second question: That can be done already. The command you want is SELECT ITEM gadgetID, index. The first item in the list is item 0.

@ RobK

Sorry Rob, I found another problem (at least I think it is a problem). Until now I have been using standard gadgets but today I set them to WindowsXP theme and found that all my labels had changed. The rest of the gadgets look great it was just label gadgets.
Some had a white background, others didn't but they all changed font size and had a limited length.

Is this a problem with the XP theme thingy? Or is it meant to be there and it is up to the coder to decide which font to use? (I haven't tried changing the font yet - must do that now).

Thanks

Edit I tried changing the font but it didn't help.

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Odd, can you post a screenshot please Scraggle.


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Posted: 4th Jan 2004 22:48 Edited at: 4th Jan 2004 22:49
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Thanks scraggle.

@ Rob - Would you be able to set the number of steps on a slider? If so I think that would be a good addition to the plugin.

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Finally, my mom ordered the plugin, I cant wait to see what I can do with it when I get it

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@Scraggel, once i had this problem too. Dont know why but as i changed my window cpation it works fine. Otherwise that happens if the plugin lost the focus to the DBP window. Well, it also could be that the label Gadget hasnt a parent gadget.

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OK Rob

Here is the screen shot:



As you can see the three label starting with the word 'Gadgets' are a different size, they have also been trimmed in length.
In the top on I put an underline instead of a space and curiously it got half way through the 'a'.

The 'X:' and 'Y:' are also label gadgets but strangley these have a white background.

Something else worthy of note: If you look at the lower groupbox you will notice that there is a gap towards the lower right corner. It is caused by the radiobutton although the radiobutton's text is set to "". It does not however, appear in the XP theme.

For your info, the background is a panel gadget and all gadgets on it were created as children of the panel.
Edit Actually that is not true - only the groupboxes are children of the panel, all other gadgets are children of the groupbox they are in.

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Hmm, weird, maybe windows XP has a larger default font that win98, but I can't see why it's cutting off . That gap looks like a bug in the 98 version of the radiobutton. I use the XP theme and I haven't had any problems (only had a few when I set the font for the parent gadget and spent ages wondering why all the other gadgets also had the font).

On another note, are you making a VB style interface maker or something ? Looks like it anyway. And what colour is the font for the XP groupboxes in that screen, I can't seem to get it quite right.

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@Hamish

I'm working on an interface maker - yes, but VB style? I don't know, I have never used or even seen VB.

As for the colour in the groupbox, I haven't set it - that is the default.

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I wrote a little gadget converter (too). This one works with the Purebasic - Visual Designer. It takes the source output and translate it to DarkBasic (Bluegui)
You can find it on my site - under tools.

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Posted: 5th Jan 2004 15:27 Edited at: 5th Jan 2004 15:35
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Sounds cool scraggle, I meant simply that you can make interfaces by VB style, I don't know why I said it. I am actually using the win98 theme, I just got confused cos the title bar was winXP style .

It says in the help files that I have to copy the myapp.exe.manifest file to somewhere, but I can't find the file anywhere. Where would it be found?

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@Hamish

It should be in the ZIP archive that came with the plugin.

If it isn't - email me and I will send it to you.

@Scraggle
That's odd - I don't get a font change here, might be a bug in the .manifest file.


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Emailed . Maybe you didn't see my question before, or maybe you just forgot to reply, so would you be able to set the number of steps on a slider? If so I think that would be a good addition to the plugin.

Thanks.

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Quote: "That's odd - I don't get a font change here, might be a bug in the .manifest file."


Can anything be done about it?
Would different copy of the manifest file be beneficial? If so, would you mind sending me one please?

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Does anybody know how i can add scrollbars to textareas ?

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Hi Xanatus,

Email me for an updated DLL. Textareas were intended to have vertical scrollbars by default, RichEdits spawn vertical scrollbars as needed, for some reason they were disabled though.

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The limit for # of nodes in a treeview is about 4000 in the plugin. Windows XP doesn't have a real limit AFAIK.


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I was wondering Rob, though this may be an outrageous question, for RichEdit text boxes, is it possible to tell how many lines of text are in it, is it possible to get the text in a certain line and store it to a string? Is it even possible to return the text from the RichEdit box? Thanks. An example would be nice, but you dont have to, just point me to the commands that can do this (if there are any in the plugin to do a few of the things mentioned above).

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Hi Preston,

The easiest way is to get the text of the Richedit gadget using Get Gadget Text(), then looping through and using the mid() function to count the number of new-line characters (chr(13)).

I'll try and post an example later.


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Rob, i sent you an email yesterday. Either you didnt get the mail or you are very buisy lately

[Edit] I also noticed that LOCK GADGET doesnt work with textareas, would be great if you can fix that too

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Hi Xanatus,

Sorry, I was out for latter part of yesterday evening, and I'm not home until quite late today - but I've received your mail.


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Hi, based on my Frm Importer, i worked out a Frm Converter who is able to make DBP Code from VB .frm files. Just compile the sourcecode at the attachment.

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Ive found a new bug with your updated Dll, the SHOW POPUP() functions says now "Control '' has no parent Window". With the old Dll it works fine. And interesting is, if you dont set the extra flag for the textarea, the textarea gets his own window ?

PS. New converter code for the updated Dll can be found at the attachment. The error message occurs if you make a rightclick at the textarea.

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Hi Xanatus,

Will look into this. Very odd though.


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Hi Rob

On the first page of this thread you said:

Quote: " There are two new undocumented commands as well:

CAPTURE DBP WINDOW and RELEASE DBP WINDOW"


Are these commands still included in the dll? If so, how do you use them?



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Is there any way of getting indented text boxes? Like the drop down boxes?

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Yes, they are still there. capture dbp window gadgetID places the DBPro window inside the specified gadget, release dbp window puts it back on the desktop.


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Quote: " @Josh

Yes, they are still there. capture dbp window gadgetID places the DBPro window inside the specified gadget, release dbp window puts it back on the desktop."


What type of gadget has to be used? I tried what you said before but I think that I'm using the wrong type of gadget.

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i guess you tried window gadgets? well, if not then you should try these

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Rob, any progress in fixing that popup issue? If yes, could you send me the new dll please?

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Quote: " i guess you tried window gadgets? well, if not then you should try these "



I did and... they didn't work...




This is the source code that I used:


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Hi Josh,

Is the DBPro window set to normal display mode?

Also, try using the MAXIMIZE WINDOW command after capturing it, its possible that it is out of sight.

@Xanatus,

Still working on it...


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@ RobK,

Time to get your revenge. I'm coding a program to design, edit, load and save your Windows Menus (*.DBmnu) and I've got the menu draw, redraw, save and open stuff sorted and working and the interface using the BGUI - just got to sort out the finer insert, alter, add etc for Main Menus, Items, Sub Items and Radios - finished piece will allow you to specify enabled, checked, visible, radio, radio group and even attach a specific scancode to a menu selection and I'm drafting a .dba file to be included to allow people to load the menus in to their programs...

My coding is v.v. inefficient (hey, it works - usually) and I've also got to tart up the interface which looks about as exciting as a morgue frontage but I should have a beta version of it for start of next week. Would you have a look at it? People would be welcome to use it but I've not got a website (proper one) so I'd have to email it over to you Rob...?
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... being a slob I coded it to save myself some time in the future...
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Rob,

It's ok, for some reason it works now.

3DBML - Convert DBP source code to the 3DBML format which enables your applications to be run over the Internet. Written in DBP. 3D-Dark Basic Mark-up Language.

http://www.dbspot.com/se-online
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