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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Official FPSC Migration Discussion Thread

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Marc Steene
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Posted: 9th Jan 2009 17:48
Keith, I was thinking up some name ideas yesterday I'll add it to my first post, and we'll see what intresting names we can come up with

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Demon Air 3D
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Posted: 10th Jan 2009 14:20 Edited at: 10th Jan 2009 14:47
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Posted: 10th Jan 2009 23:40
cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 03:31
I think it should still b called Fps Creator: A New Hope (lol it kinda makes sense too.....)

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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 03:49 Edited at: 11th Jan 2009 03:50
I think it should be FPSC X9.5

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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 04:23
Hmmm. Lol I would go for just FPS Creator 2.
Not advanced or professional ... because no matter how much we try it can't make something like Crysis.


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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 04:37
Quote: "Hmmm. Lol I would go for just FPS Creator 2.
Not advanced or professional ... because no matter how much we try it can't make something like Crysis."


"If there's a will, there's a way"

But seriously, subtitles are usally refering to the software itself, so it says it's the ultimate version of FPSC, not the ultimate game engine.
Marc Steene
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 12:45
Does anyone have some more questions for Lee? I think I'll bother him with one more email

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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 18:57
i have a question for lee or two. lol
-will motion blur be in the migration?
- will particle definatly be included?
cheers marc
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Posted: 12th Jan 2009 00:42
add this to the name list (FPS Creator V2)

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Posted: 12th Jan 2009 01:30
Quote: "add this to the name list (FPS Creator V2)"

V2 was originally a completely different update. I personally think the noobs here would get too confused if that became the name of the migration.

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Bump.
Marc Steene
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Posted: 16th Jan 2009 08:16
I decided not to send another email to Lee just yet, maybe next week sometime. Now we need to lookout for the first signs of the X10 update, and maybe the Febuary newsletter might contain some information

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Urlforce Studios
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Posted: 16th Jan 2009 08:29
Quote: "Hi Steve,


Not quite started the migration yet The X10 community roped me in to perform a few much needed fixes as they had not had an update in around 9 months or so.


The migration follows this work so when you hear about the first migration beta from the X9 forum, remind me a third time that I have your source code if you could


Best Regards,
Lee

"


Marc Steene
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Posted: 16th Jan 2009 10:44
URL - Does this mean a version of Lemur will be implemented to improve multiplayer?

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Posted: 16th Jan 2009 17:58
Yes.

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Posted: 17th Jan 2009 00:30
Quote: "Yes."


OH... MY... GOD...
This is awesome! If they incorporated some mods into the migration, though, wouldn't that mean that we can's mod the source code anymore?

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USE PLY'S MOD!
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Posted: 17th Jan 2009 07:44
Cool, I'll update my first post

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Demon Air 3D
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Posted: 17th Jan 2009 12:04
very awsome !!
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Posted: 17th Jan 2009 13:39
That rocks! Now if only this didn't take so long...

Best.

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Posted: 17th Jan 2009 15:54
I know that current owners of FPSC will get these for free (at least from what I have heard), but users who first used the Free version and the bought the buildgame upgrade, will they get this for free to? Or do they need to buy it when it comes out?

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Quote: "I know that current owners of FPSC will get these for free (at least from what I have heard), but users who first used the Free version and the bought the buildgame upgrade, will they get this for free to? Or do they need to buy it when it comes out?"


maybe the Migration will be added somewhere into the store? Maybe If it recognizes that you purchased the buildgame addon then it'll give the migration to you for free?

Just a guess

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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 03:41
Quote: "IF THE GAME IS FOR DIRECT X10, THEN IT WILL USE GPU INSTANCING YES."

From what I know, isn't GPU instancing when you render a model with a shader, and get your shader all set up so you have to change very few parameters in between renders? Or am I thinking of something else?

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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 05:03
Quote: "We'll need to keep a lookout for the X10 update"


Lee has released FPSCX10_Update_V109_BETA3

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Marc Steene
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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 12:35
Great, we're getting closer

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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 13:21
but how many updates is he going to make ? it might take up too V114, lol
Marc Steene
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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 15:14
V109 will be the last one.

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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 17:15
how do you know ?
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2009 01:05
I dont get it, has the migration started yet? I cant w8 tho, ragdoll physics is what Im most excited about, plus water and light blur YAY!!

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2009 01:35
if the migration does include better multiplayer, we need CO-OP CAMPAIGN

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2009 02:15
The migration will probably not be ready for months, so it just gives people more time to make things up about what will be included (I only trust what the REAL developers say will be included).

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Marc Steene
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2009 13:19
Right you are, crispex

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Lee should implement all the features of Airmod so when can have more realistic weapons.

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Posted: 23rd Jan 2009 12:56
Germ:

As Lemur is getting implemented, hopefully Lee wil also add air-mod as it is open source anyway.

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Quote: ""If there's a will, there's a way""


I totally agree with ya


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Posted: 24th Jan 2009 19:10
i cant wait!
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is there any estimates of when it will be out? (ps: what exactly does airmod do?)

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No, it could be tomorrow or 10 years from now.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=127029&b=21

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Thanks =)

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i doubt it would be 10 years
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 11:58
so this is what the great migration is -.^
looks so awsome!
can't wait
een if it is like a year or 2 from now

mehh
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Hope it doesn't take that long, because I'm getting a new laptop this year, which will either be for Vista or Windows 7 (hoping for Windows 7 as it's better than Vista), so I will be using x10 before long.

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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 12:35
I can't wait Either, I want SPEC map support xD. Plus an uncapped framerate with at least some new sxc AI that is smarter.

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I myself would love to see the implementation of animated textures, so we could have bleeding walls, and animated video screens without the use of Decals, etc.

Just a thought.

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.....bleeding walls?

I see your point, but why bleeding walls?

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Posted: 28th Jan 2009 14:28
Quote: "Plystire's new conditions and actions from his mod"


I'd like to push for some of these in particular to be added into the migration (with Ply's permission of course)

While all of the new commands and features, available through Ply's excellent mod are great additions, to me the most useful features that I'd like to see replicated in the migrations are:

The entity timer system (vital and to be honest I'm not sure why this hasn't been implemented before).

Dual Welding and Ammo Pooling (Just a cool feature and I think it brings FPSC in line with more modern engines)

PlrBlockedShot=X

setmaxweapslot=X

NextLevel=X (I find this very useful as it allows for alternative paths through a game allowing for extended game play)

Return (such a useful command it's had to imagine how it was missed out in the first place)

And obviously the camera commands (which to be honest I haven't played with much, but alternative cameras opens up a world of possibilities)

Lastly, and this is just my opinion, but I prefer Ply's variable system, I think it has a more familiar feel to us old school programmers and the ability for any command to reference a variable is a vital part of any scripting language, and of course names are easier to remember than numerical references).

Now reading back through this it seems I've listed almost all of the features in Ply's mod in one way or the other and I know including these in the migration would possibly deprive Ply of some sales and much deserved remuneration for his work which may be rather unfair. However,in addition to all of the features Lee has promised us, an improved scripting language and a wider range of commands seems to me to be vital to allow the engine to grow and I can't possibly see long a term future for the FPSC engine without including them.

Just my thoughts...
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Private: DOOM 3! That particular effect was very cool, and creepy. At least "I" thought so. This is an option thats been available in lesser game engines since the heyday of DOOM, and Duke Nukem, etc.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2009 18:26
A suggestion:
Some more use of phyiscs, since we will probably have ragdoll, why not make it possible to have other physicsrelated stuff?
You remember the trap in the cave in oblivion? The big log wich falls down attached to a rope? And the matress in Pneumbra (or something like that) wich apear to be soft and doodely (maybe a new word here )

This would take FPSC into a new level I guess.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2009 20:27
I sent Lee a e-mail about some ideas/suggestions for the migration version... like empty-state animations, EAX (!), more airmod features (or a full intergration), weapon grouping, and more stuff. I'm still waiting for his response though.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2009 20:43 Edited at: 28th Jan 2009 21:08
i think we need directional lights like an option when you right click. also better, well you know when you shoot a wall the rubble that falls of, we need more realistic rubble or richochets...

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