Quote: "I am now running on about 7 hours of sleep in almost 3 days. So if I'm not making a whole lot of sense, I'll step back later and re-read everything"
Understood, but that should not mean the rest of us are going without sleep, and should keep from helping a mod who is decidedly tired.
Keith apparently kept this thread open because he thought (in a mentally tired condition) that some time should be taken before any final decision. Why? Because he thought
Quote: "As far as this Mod, and the Mod's thread; as far as I'm concerned, the community has a vested interest"
I think what he was thinking was that the WIP of some members can be affected if the thread is shut down.
I think people who have xara mod deeply involved in their WIP should already have personal contact of the author of the mod and can contact him individually and personally for help and guidance if they feel they need it. It is their individual interest and not community interest, though they are good members of the fpsc community.
The author of the mod was banned for stealing bond1's labor and diluting its value. Should we as a community continue to use the fruits of labor of the banned member?
It's not a question of whether we can, but should we continue to enjoy the labor of a banned member, because he had given it freely to the community when he was part of us?
In what way then would we be better than scavengers?
My personal opinion is that this community (as a community)cannot continue to have any vested interest in the mod, if we prefer to maintain a higher moral ground.
Individuals who like the mod author and want his help have the right to do so in their personal spheres,but it would become part of their social backyard. We do not expose our social backyards to the public and do not allow the public to enter our social backyards. This is the way of civilized society.
So, this thread should not continue because we cannot in public discuss the use of something whose creator has been banned by us. Because the moderator ultimately is working for the community and therefore derives his authority from the community. When a moderator bans a person it tantamounts to the community banning that person. Equitably, the community should not continue to have vested interest in the labor of the banned person.
The link to the mod is still working allowing newcomers, if they wish so, to download xara mod. This to me is inequitable.
When parents expel a son from the family because of his crimes and sins, the family does not continue to enjoy the personal property of the expelled member. That is the rule in my community. But my community is more spiritual and ancient tradition based than the western world, though I have often found common values.
I have expressed my thoughts, and hope that KeithC would re read this and take a reasonable decision.
Still moving in circles.
