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The Next
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:02 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 22:03
Font sizes are now consolidated into one tag, no backwards compatibility I'm afraid.

extra small

small

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extra large



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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:05 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 22:14
[size=6]Hello World?[/size] Ah, I meant to use numbers for sizes too but good job changing things so quickly!


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:08
Size numbers won't work. The reason for this is to stop abuse that is often seen on many other forums. The number of options will be limited by design hence why they have names and there are only 4.

I could have used numbers and limited in the same way I suppose but I felt that the named version would be more understandable as to what size the text would end up.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:14
TheNext wrote: "Size numbers won't work. The reason for this is to stop abuse that is often seen on many other forums. The number of options will be limited by design hence why they have names and there are only 4.

I could have used numbers and limited in the same way I suppose but I felt that the named version would be more understandable as to what size the text would end up."

Ah, I see. What you did makes sense then.

Another style issue I noticed is that div.postmessage looks like it's not part of the post above it. In fact, why have that div at all? Why not put the 'pm', 'profile', 'website', etc. buttons in div.author and the 'report abuse' button maybe in the bottom right of the post or somewhere out of the way like that. Then we just have a nice clean gap between posts. Even very short posts take up a lot of space on this forum, and I think getting rid of that bar could help that.


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:18 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 22:37
Lets just say there is a lot you cannot see going on in that div

  1. Testing out the new numeric lists
  2. Testing out the new numeric lists new item


  1. Testing out the new alphabetical lists
  2. Testing out the new alphabetical lists new item


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:44 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 22:48
Another style point: I see that div.message has a min-height parameter, I think this works better on div.messageContents because that way the signature is in a consistent position at the bottom of the post.

A screenie of some tweaks I tried out:




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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:48
div.message isn't actually needed anymore so I will remove that there is already a min-height in div.messageContents

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 22:48 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 22:51
Code snippet test:


Something to note, when you click "code = c", it doesn't work because it needs to be "code lang=c".

EDIT: Hmm, syntax isn't highlighted and it still double-indents. At least the preview has the indentation correct!


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 23:09
Yodaman Jer wrote: "EDIT: Hmm, syntax isn't highlighted and it still double-indents. At least the preview has the indentation correct!"

I think this might be due to you using actual horizontal tabs instead of spaces (your IDE should have an option for using spaces for indents, this is how code should be as spaces are guaranteed to be uniform).


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 23:12 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 23:14
Interesting, horizontally scrolling your code snippet leaves the background colour behind, but changing pre code "display:block" to "display:inline-block" fixes that. I've never used that option before, it just popped up so I tried it. (gotta love inspect element, it is fun to play around with stuff in the browser.)

@Next - Just wondering what you use to edit html/css files?


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 23:33 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2014 23:43
Just seeing if the new highlighting system works you guys may not see this.



Libervurto I use a program called PsPad which has been my editor of choice for many years it isn't pretty but it does everything I need and I know where everything is without the clutter of other programs.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2014 23:47 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2014 00:23
The new highlighter needs support for DBP, does anyone feel up to generating me a list of keywords for DBP so I can write the language file.

I would need one for AppGameKit also.

If anyone is interested then the format is like below.



Each keyword is separated by a | and it is case sensitive.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2014 00:39 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2014 00:42

A B L I N D
T E S T
T H A T
W O R K S


not working?

Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2014 01:09 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2014 01:10
budokaiman wrote: "I think this might be due to you using actual horizontal tabs instead of spaces (your IDE should have an option for using spaces for indents, this is how code should be as spaces are guaranteed to be uniform)."


Actually, it looks The Next got it fixed, as the code is both highlighted AND properly indented now!

Just another test...


EDIT: Success! Although the Preview post still shows it unhighlighted and improperly indented, but I'm sure The Next is aware of that.

The Next, you are awesome. Thank you for making the code snippets SOOOO much better! Seriously, you deserver an award for everything you're doing for us.


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2014 03:04
I wrote: "Oooo!"


You wrote: "Eh?"


We all wrote: "Get on with it"


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2014 10:35 Edited at: 6th Jan 2014 07:32
I made a theme for the beta forum using Stylish. It's based on the old LLRGT forum.

http://userstyles.org/styles/96705/tgc-beta-llrgt


I'm not sure I like this spoiler feature. You have to keep your mouse over it the whole time to see it(such as watching a video). Maybe clicking on the spoiler will reveal it instead; a toggle.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2014 15:23
Slightly off topic, but is there a way to link to the NaGaCreMo board in the drop-down menu? It's a bit of a pain to access it just now

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2014 17:17 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2014 17:22
Quote: "I'm not sure I like this spoiler feature. You have to keep your mouse over it the whole time to see it(such as watching a video). Maybe clicking on the spoiler will reveal it instead; a toggle."


I was thinking that also I will adjust.

Quote: "Slightly off topic, but is there a way to link to the NaGaCreMo board in the drop-down menu? It's a bit of a pain to access it just now"


It will be returning as soon as possible

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Posted: 4th Jan 2014 00:34 Edited at: 4th Jan 2014 20:53
Im having a problem with the new post color not showing up in threads (just on the thread list). I think it worked on windows with chrome and (maybe) firefox but on steam OS with Iceweasel (firefox 26) it does not show up.

Edit: It looks like the new messages have the right class but there is nothing in the CSS for them

Edit2: I did some more testing and the issue appears in firefox on both windows and linux but not in chrome / chromium on any OS. Also, the CSS property for background is there in the common.css file but not when inspecting the element in firefox. The class is applied properly though

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Posted: 5th Jan 2014 22:15
Saw WIP list. Sigh, no "spoiler" thingie in plans still.

Also there is a nice feature exists - when you post something AND someone posted before you (that may be important) - your post is not posted this time and a message like this appears: "there is a new post added!".

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Posted: 5th Jan 2014 23:51
Quote: "Saw WIP list. Sigh, no "spoiler" thingie in plans still."


Already coded and working


Quote: "when you post something AND someone posted before you (that may be important) - your post is not posted this time and a message like this appears: "there is a new post added!"."


I will see what I can do.

@The Zoq2
I will have a look at that but the browser your using is not a main stream browser so is not one that will be officially supported.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2014 01:19 Edited at: 6th Jan 2014 01:21
Handy: Looks like you need some help...


I wanted to see if videos still flicker under spoilers, and they don't! Yay!



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Posted: 6th Jan 2014 10:55
Quote: " the browser your using is not a main stream browser"


I think I mentioned somewhere that I have the same issue with the windows version of firefox 26, and to my knowledge Iceweasel is pretty much a linux version of firefox

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Posted: 6th Jan 2014 13:28
Well done on the work so far! One thing that would be cool is to have a feature that automatically detects links to youtube videos (just from the URL I guess) and makes them embedded. It'd have to be something the user can turn off though since some would rather just post the link rather than embed the video.
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Posted: 6th Jan 2014 21:02 Edited at: 6th Jan 2014 22:05
The Next wrote: "Already coded and working"

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!11
The Next wrote: "I will see what I can do."

Would be great! I often write post too long enough to someone post before me and my post may loose some (or any) sense so I have had to edit it.

edit: edited message in new editor! yay!

Also I don't want to look pernickety, but... quote. User wrote: is more logical than User said: as all speech is written here... what do you think?

edit 2: here is my color/layout tweaks to your judgement



P.S. failed to attach image on betaforum, had to do it on old.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2014 09:04
@The Next && The Zoq2: Good job so far Next, hard work always appreciated. I can confirm Zoq2 is correct, Iceweasel is a mainstream browser. It is the Debian version of Firefox. There was/is some or other legality behind it vs the Debian Linux philosophy -- or something like that, I don't recall -- and, blah, blah, blah, Iceweasel (which is a Parody on the name). Anway, Zoq2, you can actually use Firefox on most Debian-based distroa since a .deb package for Firefox exists. Personally I use Iceweasel on my Antix (Debian 7 -based) rig because the name amuses me.

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Quote: "Personally I use Iceweasel on my Antix (Debian 7 -based) rig because the name amuses me."

In russian weasel have an awesome name, and one of the meanings could be translated to "
ice petting
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Quote: " Firefox on most Debian-based distroa since a .deb package"


My steam OS seems to have some sort of issue with installing .deb files and not installing dependenices, and iceweasel does the job for me.

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So what's this new Global Threads board?

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The "global threads" board is for use by mods and TGC staff only if we need to make a thread appear at the top of every board we now can, it will eventually be hidden to all other users but is basically where those threads are stored.

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I was wondering if it would be possible to make stickied threads at the top of a board collapsible? Sometimes the stickies get a little excessive or just get tired of seeing them.

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Quote: "I was wondering if it would be possible to make stickied threads at the top of a board collapsible? Sometimes the stickies get a little excessive or just get tired of seeing them."


Hmm kind of defeats the point of us sticking them to the top. I agree they can get a bit out of hand at times, the AppGameKit board is a prime example.

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Just testing normal users can post again now.
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Sorry all who couldn't post in the global threads, this is now fixed.

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I know not if this was mentioned; but when one edits a post, characters appear \'escaped\' and when you commit the changes, the escapes are then \\\'escaped\\\' themselves.

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^ Happens on the forum my android device is directed to.

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I just noticed this too...

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So no response to my design comment?

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@mr Handy
I had seen your post and have taken it on board some good ideas, I probably got caught up with other things, I tend to be very busy if someone starts talking to me I might forget to reply.

@nonZero & baxslash
I am aware of this issue it is on my list to fix, lots of places on the forum have this issue it s quite a big job to fix.

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While in any global thread, up top it links back to the global threads board, which should not be seen by us mere mortals.


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Lots of posts, too many to go through so if my points have already been raised, my apologies.
However that raises an issue if someone hasn't followed a thread from the start, how to extract the main issues without being bogged down with minor points.

My main issue however is the "search" function.
Quite a lot of threads do not have an accurate Subject Title making it virtually impossible for others to find an answer previously raised.
2ndly the search wording currently needs to be too specific, e.g
if I wanted help with "Image resolution", typing that could provide 1 set of threads and typing "Changing resolution of images" would provide a completely different set of threads. Not really a good example but I hope you get my point.

I feel that functionality is needed ahead of aesthetics.

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@Juney
That is a good point about the search system I have code for a much improved search system that takes the keywords in any order and finds matches based on a weighting score. The current system requires an exact phrase match, I will put this new system in asap.

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Yes that will need sorting

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Quote: "I am aware of this issue it is on my list to fix, lots of places on the forum have this issue it s quite a big job to fix.
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Looks like it's adding the escape characters to the message before sql insertion and they're getting left in when trying to edit.

budokaiman, your signature has me cracking up!

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With a resource the size of this improving the search features should be the number one priority, as it's something of a recurring theme it would seem. for example

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One slight suggestion, it's not that important and I don't know how hard it would be, but it would be nice if the link at the top of a Global thread took the user back to the board they clicked into the thread from, as opposed to taking them to the Global threads board.

Again not too important, but accidentally clicking into the Global board and having to hit backspace a few times to get where I was intending gets sort of annoying after a while.

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Improving search functionality is a MUST. Starting with some simple features that every other forum takes for granted--being able to view all threads and posts by any particular user. Currently, we can only view threads a user has started and only the last 100, so a lot of historic posts and content is pretty impossible to find. This should be one of the easier updates to implement.

I second all the other search-related feedback as well.
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I am pleased that the search system will be improved but going back to an earlier point I made, apologies for repeating but do not want this point to be overlooked, if the search title is poor then searching will not find the subject in question. Example when the Subject Title is something like "Please help me". Often good and helpful responses are made but it is virtually impossible for others to find those replies because the main subject is not included in the Subject Title.
An idea is to have a obligatory tick box for main subjects linked to the subject title which is then also linked to the search. Not perfect but better than current situation. I am sure others can develop this idea or better it.

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Maybe you could convert the user name (On the left side) to a link to the users profile, rather that a separate profile button, to me that seems to make more sense.. but that may just be me.

Also, out of interest why is there still an MSN button, I thought MSN was basically dead?

Other than those I cannot think of any constructive comments, I like these new forums though

EDIT: Sorry if someone has mentioned this already - can you disable posting unless its the last page of the thread? I missed there were more pages, and thought I was posting at the end of page 1, as the option to type/submit post was there. Had I quoted something on page 1 no-one would have a clue what I was talking about, or it would have been quoting something which had already been dealt with on page 2/3/4/etc.!
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Quote: "Maybe you could convert the user name (On the left side) to a link to the users profile, rather that a separate profile button, to me that seems to make more sense.. but that may just be me."

I think this makes a lot of sense as well.

Quote: "Also, out of interest why is there still an MSN button, I thought MSN was basically dead?"

MSN is completely dead, replaced with skype. If this gets removed (I think it should), I would suggest adding some new buttons as well (Steam for example).


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Posted: 21st Jan 2014 14:22 Edited at: 21st Jan 2014 14:23
Quote: "With a resource the size of this improving the search features should be the number one priority"


It is pretty high on the list yes.

Quote: "One slight suggestion, it's not that important and I don't know how hard it would be, but it would be nice if the link at the top of a Global thread took the user back to the board they clicked into the thread from, as opposed to taking them to the Global threads board."


Agreed and it will

Quote: "Improving search functionality is a MUST. Starting with some simple features that every other forum takes for granted--being able to view all threads and posts by any particular user. Currently, we can only view threads a user has started and only the last 100, so a lot of historic posts and content is pretty impossible to find. This should be one of the easier updates to implement."


As said previously this is pretty high on the list of changes and the new search system will be very fully featured. There will also be paged results for users threads and posts.

Quote: "I am pleased that the search system will be improved but going back to an earlier point I made, apologies for repeating but do not want this point to be overlooked, if the search title is poor then searching will not find the subject in question. Example when the Subject Title is something like "Please help me". Often good and helpful responses are made but it is virtually impossible for others to find those replies because the main subject is not included in the Subject Title.
An idea is to have a obligatory tick box for main subjects linked to the subject title which is then also linked to the search. Not perfect but better than current situation. I am sure others can develop this idea or better it."


A search system for user generated material especially that of younger users or those that do not speak English very well can be very hard to manage as you will always get those type of threads with an useless title. The mods do a good job at mitigating this and there aren't as many now we will just have to try a few things and see how it goes.

Quote: "Also, out of interest why is there still an MSN button, I thought MSN was basically dead?"


Quote: "MSN is completely dead, replaced with skype. If this gets removed (I think it should), I would suggest adding some new buttons as well (Steam for example)."


It is A skype button will be replacing it, please suggest other buttons you would like I will add them all in one go.

Quote: "Sorry if someone has mentioned this already - can you disable posting unless its the last page of the thread?"


An interesting point I will look into that

Quote: "Maybe you could convert the user name (On the left side) to a link to the users profile, rather that a separate profile button, to me that seems to make more sense.. but that may just be me."


I also agree.



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