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The Zoq2
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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 18:01
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Quote: "Installing proprietary Nvidia graphics can be nightmarish though some distributions (OpenSUSE and some others, Arch maybe?) "


Installing GPU drivers on arch (or antergos) was really simple compared to what I had to do on ubuntu. I think the only thing i had to do was run pacman -S nvidia and maybe reboot. On ubuntu I struggled for a few days to get it to work.

Quote: "In fact, the kernel treats all system objects as a file at a basic level. "


Which is really cool once you start using it. Writing things to my arduino via the serial port is done in the same way as writing things to a file.

Quote: "(because, weirdly, I wouldn't expect Linux to be able to install drivers without restarting like Windows can)"


My average uptime on my desktop is ~30 days and I have not had to reboot for an update since I switched to arch. It is possible that im missing some kernel updates but everything else gets updated on the fly. Restarting for a GPU driver might be nessesairy but you technically wouldn't need a full restart, you would (most likley) only need to restart the x server.

Also, Linux 4.0 introduced some sort of live kernel patching which means that you wouldn't even have to reboot to update the kernel.

And best of all, if you need an update, you can do it whenever you feel like it instead of "in 15 minutes or 4 hours".

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 18:30 Edited at: 17th Apr 2015 18:30
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I remember having lots of issues with graphics drivers and Ubuntu (-based systems).

I'm running Gentoo here, and installing nVidia drivers was really, really easy. I only had to run
and restart X.

Quote: "because, weirdly, I wouldn't expect Linux to be able to install drivers without restarting like Windows can"


Installing anything that is not the kernel itself doesn't require a reboot.

The kernel patching thing Zoq2 mentioned sounds cool, I haven't heard of that yet.

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Quote: " The kernel patching thing Zoq2 mentioned sounds cool, I haven't heard of that yet."

That's because it's brand spanking new. 4.0 released earlier this week. Arch is still on 3.19.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 19:37 Edited at: 17th Apr 2015 19:38
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I'm sticking to the stable releases of the kernel on my setup, i.e. 3.18.11.

I've had to recompile Libreoffice three times within the last month. It takes 14 hours on my laptop.

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Quote: "I've had to recompile Libreoffice three times within the last month. It takes 14 hours on my laptop."


Why would you do that when you can just download a binary?
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@Seditious
He's on Gentoo. It's source-based instead of binary-based. Gives more control and the resulting binaries are same/more compatible with your system than a generic binary.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 22:53 Edited at: 17th Apr 2015 22:55
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Windows in the past decade:

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Linux in the past decade:

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Apple in the past decade:

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Blackberry in the past decade: [Added this one for a little extra ]

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High five if you get the point

Not going to explain, as it is a bit of a joke too



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Damn did not notice it was new page... one of those days I guess...

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 23:06 Edited at: 17th Apr 2015 23:07
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Quote: "Why would you do that when you can just download a binary?"


Because it's Gentoo Linux. Every single binary on my computer was compiled from source (except for skype and JDK), including the kernel. Whenever there's an upgrade, the affected programs need to be recompiled.

Why? Three reasons.
1) It gives me a lot of control over what parts of a program I want to have enabled.
2) The programs will run faster because they are specifically tailored towards my computer architecture.
3) I am in near complete control of my system.

This is in contrast to binary packages, which are built with every feature enabled, and they're built to target a generic architecture, making them slower and a lot more bloated.

Gentoo has a unique way of managing packages. We have these things called USE flags, which control what components of a program get compiled. For instance, the USE flags for Audacity on my system are:



The blue flags are the things I have no need for. Every package can be configured to suite your needs.

You may think that it's a huge hassle. On a basic level, our package manager functions the same way as any other package manager out there. You do spend a little more time editing config files (USE flags for instance), but once you get the hang of it, it's no harder than typing "sudo apt-get install XXX"

The only downside are the long compilation times.

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Quote: "It's source-based instead of binary-based."


Blarg. I'll take binaries over spending hours trying to solve a simple compilation problem, thanks.
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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 23:26 Edited at: 17th Apr 2015 23:26
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Blarg. I'll take points over spending hours trying to solve compilation problem, thanks.

(Compiling on Linux is a million times easier than on Windows, so I understand where your frustration must be coming from)

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 23:34
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Quote: "Blarg. I'll take binaries over spending hours trying to solve a simple compilation problem, thanks."

Linux doesn't have many compilation problems as long as you have the required packages. The only extra time you really spend is time waiting for stuff to compile

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I really wish Microsoft would step up their game with MSVC. So far it has been nothing but a nightmare to maintain support for that wretched compiler for my cross platform game.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 23:38 Edited at: 17th Apr 2015 23:41
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Quote: "Compiling on Linux is a million times easier than on Windows"


Yes, except on Windows it's standard practice to provide a binary so the user doesn't have to spend 15 x 3 hours every month recompiling it because it goes wrong.

Quote: "Linux doesn't have many compilation problems as long as you have the required packages."


And if you do have a compilation problem have fun for a few hours googling the problem to see if you can hack together a solution yourself without having to reinstall the whole OS. Whereas if you use Windows or MacOS you'll never see such problems.
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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 23:41
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Quote: "And if you do have a compilation problem have fun for a few hours googling the problem to see if you can hack together a solution yourself without having to reinstall the whole OS."


Only if you don't know what you're doing...

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Posted: 17th Apr 2015 23:45
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Blarg. I'll take binaries over spending hours trying to solve a simple compilation problem, thanks. "


Usually, all you have to do is download the source, cd <source folder>; make; sudo make install. The only issues i have had have been from having multiple versions of the same program installed (one precompiled from the repos and my own compiled versions) and missing libraries. I imagine none of those issues exist in gentoo since you have your package manager install your programs for you, thereby making sure you only have one of every program you need

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Quote: "Only if you don't know what you're doing..."


Therein lies the problem. Linux is great if you have a degree in IT, but otherwise it's better to stick with something designed to be user-friendly like MacOS or Windows. Or DOS.

Quote: "Usually"


Yes, that has been my experience too.
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Quote: "Therein lies the problem. Linux is great if you have a degree in IT, but otherwise it's better to stick with something designed to be user-friendly like MacOS or Windows. Or DOS."


Yea, I agree for the most part. But it also depends on what distribution you use. I don't think anyone would recommend running gentoo unless you know what you are doing but ubuntu works great for a lot of people without much need for things like compiling packages.

Also, I think linux is great for people like me who enjoy tweaking everything and finding out how stuff works but it's not as good for someone who is used to windows and knows their way around that. But, linux might also be great for someone who doesn't want to tweak their computer at all, the people who use it to browse some websites and maybe send some emails. It is as easy to learn to that level as windows is, it's safer and it's easier for someone else to help fix issues thanks to things like SSH

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I typed this post with my nose. bNo joke. nHOw produdective of me USED SHIFT OLOCK FOR SMILEY

*time taken to type: about 5 minutes*

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*points taken to type: 1 point*

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CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Advisers vow to bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobbo

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Quote: "bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobbo"



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Woke up with the most terrible earache early this morning and went to the ENT clinic. They told me I have otitis media and that I deserve all the points in the posting competition. You better listen to him, he's a doctor.
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Since I am a rather selfless individual, I hereby grant Seditious with all of my previously earned points, and any new points I receive thereafter, so that he may at least have more of a percentage of points in The Posting Competition.

Make it so!

Are points the unofficial TGC Forum currency?

The other night I had such a weird dream involving work. I would never even consider doing what I did.

I was closing the service desk and putting money in the safe for the night. I decided it would be great fun to "prank" the morning person (who also has to be the bookkeeper) by removing the contents of the safe into a garbage pail and leaving it out in the open, and see how long it would take them to find it. Although not directly related to this, our store was also going to be shut down for some unknown reason and somehow that made me feel justified.

It didn't take long for the managers to come rushing to the desk asking what the hell I was doing with all of the cash out in the open like that. "Pranking the bookkeeper", I said, displaying a sly grin and then fanning myself with a few bundles of crisp one-hundred dollar bills. "Just you watch, it will be fun!".

The store co-manager looked at me and said "Jeremy, I am very disappointed in you, why did you think this was even remotely funny. I need to talk to corporate and we'll see what action they say to take. Don't expect to work here tomorrow". She then turned promptly to the other manager and had them remain behind to make sure I put all the cash back in the safe.

"I promise I didn't pocket any!" I yelled after her in a panic, "It was just a prank!".

I put all the cash back in the safe and that was that. I woke up. I felt so stupidly guilty afterwards, for a few minutes after I thought I actually HAD DONE IT IN REAL LIFE!

Thank goodness I didn't. But why did I even dream it? I would never do something that stupid, this job has a lot of nice perks and I enjoy the people I work with, why on earth would I jeopardize over something as stupid as that kind of prank?!?!

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I had a dream a few nights ago, where I was in some sort of large classroom with a teacher giving a lecture, and I kept going up to the teacher in the middle of the lecture and insisting that my butt hurt really badly. Not something I would ever do in real life, but it happened in the dream.

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My, you guys have such boring dreams.

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Wow, activity has been low lately! I quite genuinely think we ought to collectively come up with a plan as a community to increase activity here. Perhaps new threads could be posted on a scheduled basis, about topics that would fit well here. Perhaps a new thread every three days? Not sure. Maybe there's no use even trying to create activity here.

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It was really active a few days ago though. But I do agree, activity has been pretty low most of the time.

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it happens

Although, as a true American, I can identify that ain't the real Obama.

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But there are some good band stickers in third from last image. Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, CoC, Minor threat, some others too...

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Quote: ""Giraffe is soft, Gorilla is hard." - Phaelax"
I've seen that signature of yours for years, and yet only a few months ago did I realize its reference to the pronunciation of G sounds. I never could figure out why one would go on about one fleshy, furry animal being soft, and another similarly textured animal being hard.

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Posted: 20th Apr 2015 08:05 Edited at: 20th Apr 2015 08:07
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Quote: "And best of all, if you need an update, you can do it whenever you feel like it instead of "in 15 minutes or 4 hours"."


I agree that's super dumb. I just turn off auto-updates and update my system manually when I can be bothered. We don't have the bandwidth for Windows (or any other program, for that matter) to be updating whenever it wants.

Quote: "I've had to recompile Libreoffice three times within the last month. It takes 14 hours on my laptop."


Why on earth would you be recompiling LibreOffice??

Quote: "Why would you do that when you can just download a binary?"


+1

Quote: "High five if you get the point"


I haven't raised my hand.

Quote: "Every single binary on my computer was compiled from source (except for skype and JDK), including the kernel. Whenever there's an upgrade, the affected programs need to be recompiled."


Jeez, that sounds seriously overcomplicated

Quote: "I've seen that signature of yours for years, and yet only a few months ago did I realize its reference to the pronunciation of G sounds. I never could figure out why one would go on about one fleshy, furry animal being soft, and another similarly textured animal being hard."


lol I only worked it out because I read the thread where it was posted. Thread about how "gif" is pronounced, IIRC? (For the record, it's a hard G like goat or great - "jiff" just sounds dumb)

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We got Steam in-home streaming going on our NAS today, so we can now play Brawlhalla in the loungeroom with our sick sisters (some horrid stomach bug - thank goodness I haven't caught it yet). We also discovered our TV has a "game" mode which drastically reduces lag and makes games actually playable.

Really should get to work on my 3D printer's main frame. That's the hard bit. Actually the hard bit isn't manufacturing the frame, it's working out the dimensions before I can manufacture the frame. I tried using a few CAD programs but my brain melted so I'm just designing it in Blender.

Oh, and my game's progress/teaser (placeholder graphics for the most part, of course):




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Quote: ""jiff" just sounds dumb"
As does hard G gif (as in 'gift')! I personally think both names sound equally silly, and therefore I love them both and use them equally.

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Quote: "I personally think both names sound equally silly, and therefore I love them both and use them equally."


Why you peacekeeper, you!

I personally think both points sound equally silly, and therefore I love points and use them pagely.


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Oh no, Clonkex is working on a Banjo Kazooie - Nuts and Bolts clone. :/

Btw, is it me or does almost no one on this forum understand any of the references I make? For example, the image I posted in the Star Wars thread.

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That one was SpaceBalls right? I really need to actually watch that movie.

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Quote: "Oh no, Clonkex is working on a Banjo Kazooie - Nuts and Bolts clone. :/"


I have no idea what that is. Actually, if you must know, the idea was originally a Bad Piggies clone in 3D - but it's evolved a lot from that and will/does feature considerably deeper and more complex gameplay mechanics. You just can't see it in that image Trust me, what you see there is barely scratching the surface of the very complex underlying systems

Quote: "Btw, is it me or does almost no one on this forum understand any of the references I make?"


Err.... I can't really remember if I do or not. Make another reference or link me to some past ones to refresh my memory and I'll tell you.

Quote: "For example, the image I posted in the Star Wars thread."


Linky da thread and I'll tell you.

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Quote: "That one was SpaceBalls right? I really need to actually watch that movie."


Haven't seen the image, but if it is indeed from SpaceBalls, then yes, Comet, I would have gotten the reference. I really liked that movie


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Quote: "Btw, is it me or does almost no one on this forum understand any of the references I make?"

I get them. But, did you get my reference to bobobo bo bo bobo?

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I've heard of the name, but I haven't read any of the mangas or watched any of the series. Would you recommend?

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Quote: "I've heard of the name, but I haven't read any of the mangas or watched any of the series. Would you recommend?"

If you're in the mood for something that's just outright silly then sure, but if you want something with substance, no.

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Oh so it's kinda like Cromartie Highschool in terms of randomness? I enjoy things like that from time to time.



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Posted: 21st Apr 2015 22:40
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budokaiman
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2015 00:19
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Quote: "Oh so it's kinda like Cromartie Highschool in terms of randomness?"

Yeah, it's a bit like that. Better art style though.

"Giraffe is soft, Gorilla is hard." - Phaelax
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Phew, three days since I have posted in this thread! A flame war would be an excellent way to increase activity a bit.

You're currently reading a post signature on an Internet forum -- get a life!
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Seditious
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2015 02:26 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2015 02:27
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shut up n00b

If anyone wants to know anything interesting my left ear now feels like it's submerged underwater and hearing is very difficult in general. Seeing the ENT doctor again tomorrow morning so we'll see what he says.
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TheComet
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2015 02:59
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I get this a lot when I exercise in both ears.

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budokaiman
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How does one exercise IN both ears?

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