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Work in Progress / Synergy Editor - IDE for DarkBasic Professional

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Todd Riggins
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Posted: 8th Mar 2008 00:21 Edited at: 8th Mar 2008 01:02
I have Synergy_Editor_23_Feb_08_b which works, but the new March 08 version has a little square graphic in my source code where it should be tabbed. I notice when I do tab in the text editor and then hit backspace, it doesn't untab correclty.

EDIT: NM, I tried reinstalling it again and it works this time. wierd. I dont know why it didnt work for me the first time. sry

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John Y
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Posted: 8th Mar 2008 10:22
Quote: "Well, I have a request.

Every update or hotfix, I have to reset every hotkey I use. (CTRL + S, CTRL + R, CTRL + ENTER (toggle outlining), ...)

Could you maybe save them along with the ini file please?"


During testing these values are reset each build. When version 1 is released and the gui stops getting changed I can reuse the values from the previous release.

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Posted: 10th Mar 2008 21:46
You should look into the replace function, something's not right.

When I opened a document, didn't select anything and wanted to replace a simple word (zone -> tzone), it only replaced the first one when I pressed on replace all.

And it's not the first time I experienced problems with it, though I thought it was probably my fault since another test did work. Although that one was with a selection.

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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 07:08 Edited at: 11th Mar 2008 07:11
I absolutely love this IDE so far, but I have a few issues that really bug me and are keeping me from switching over from Codesurge -

- Lack of bookmarks! Even if they're not saved with a file, I need bookmarks to navigate my large projects.

- My subroutine labels aren't located at all by the editor.

- Search & replace ought to remember text from last use.

- Also lack of the universal 'search again' F3 shortcut.

Just my two cents on what seems to be missing - everything else is golden and the interface is perfect.

Edit: Also, forgot - when I'm compiling, if I switch Windows' focus to a different window, the IDE loses track of the compiler. It still finishes the app, but the IDE doesn't realize it's done and I can't compile again without saving and reloading. I'm sure you're aware of this one, though.

I'm using WinXP SP2 btw in case any of this is news to you.
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Posted: 20th Mar 2008 10:12
John,

Couple of points:-
1. The old bug of the cursor vanishing after using an F1 help screen still exists, just a lot rarer now
2. I seem to be getting a few times now where the IDE doesn't realise the executable has been killed. So the play button is greyed out and won't allow a new compile. I have to restart the IDE. Is fairly rare, but has happened at least a handfull of times since the newest release and I can't remember it happening once before
3. As well as having the version number on the project info page would be nice to have a build number. This would increase with every compile (and be editable). Plus have a last build date and time. Would be extremely nice if the version, build, and last build date/time could be accessed as a variable in the code. Bit like you did with the preprocessor to allow test mode to set project values (such as using encryption and compression when live version) but the other way around (assign a value to a variable from a project item). Basically I get really fed up of assigning version numbers and the like and just want them to automatically update and appear on an about screen.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2008 12:09 Edited at: 20th Mar 2008 12:12
1.
2.
3.

Speaking about the build number, date and time. I used my own precompiler to do this but recently John changed something and I can't fix it anymore. So I guess it would be great way to assign constants like:



...and after compiling these constants will be replaced with the actual values from the DBPRO files where they would be stored & incremented automatically by Synergy!

This would be great addition.


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Posted: 20th Mar 2008 12:27
Quote: "would be stored & incremented automatically by Synergy"
Yep, that was what I was hoping. The build no and date are the most important to me. Just whack onto an about screen and forget about it.

An automatically updating version is interesting as I guess you would only want to update the main number at set stages (a release button instead of run). But which number to update? Personally I would want the number to the right of the decimal to increase for each "release", but then there is different levels of release. eg. if I have version 1.234 then I want the next release version to be 1.235 if only minor bug fixes since last release, 1.24 if decent bug fixes, 1.3 if major revisions, and 2.0 if a whole upgrade (and the build number would increase for every single run regardless of if a release or not). So I guess a release button that then asks the level of the release (which then updates the version number against the DBP project accordingly). Totally automated then, and just a matter of assigning those constants to an about page or something, and no more will you have to worry about versions and the like

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2008 18:57
Btw the 'Associate Project and Source Files' menu option does not work for me on Vista. (I am the administrator)


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Posted: 23rd Mar 2008 20:48 Edited at: 23rd Mar 2008 20:58
Awsome I love this IDE as well.
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Posted: 17th Apr 2008 05:04
Just wondering if in media mode are the compression and encrytion suppose to be working?
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Posted: 30th Apr 2008 22:34
Ok, I change my mind, I can't under stand how someone would make a software and say it's free, then one day you find out that the software expired, that make's no sense to me.
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Posted: 1st May 2008 00:27
I guess something bad might have happened to John! He has not been here since 8th March 2008. Almost two months since his last post - he could warn us if he wanted to go away for a long time or if he wanted to leave the community at all. But lets just wait maybe I am wrong.


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Posted: 1st May 2008 00:54
I think he's been busy with something. I spoke to him about a week ago on MSN, and he even seemed busy then.

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Posted: 1st May 2008 11:02
Synergy doesn't work anymore...

It says:
Quote: "---------------------------
Synergy Editor
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This application has expired, please visit http://www.digitalzenith.net to download a new version
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------
"

(CTRL + C from message box)

I tried downloading the latest version from www.digitalzenith.net, but I still got the same error.

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Posted: 1st May 2008 12:50
Mine expired too. That sucks!


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Posted: 1st May 2008 15:38
Guys,

I'm going to post an update tomorrow, would have done it yesterday but I'm away from home.

The expiration system is simply to ensure that while in beta everyone keeps updating. Then when there are problems I know the person is using a latest version.

Will post tomorrow when an update is delivered.

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Posted: 2nd May 2008 22:15
Good news!

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Posted: 3rd May 2008 12:27
3rd May 2008

* Tweaked the compile code to improve performance

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Posted: 4th May 2008 07:27
Thanks. Had me worried............... I found this to be a great IDE as is
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Posted: 9th May 2008 22:56 Edited at: 9th May 2008 22:59
I need to test this a little more, but it is now possible to set these advanced DBP compile properties with each of your projects.

In essence you can set your standard properties per project (defaults) or your individual project properties. On closing Synergy Editor the recommended settings are restored e.g. in case you want to use another IDE etc.



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Posted: 13th Jun 2008 22:50
13th June 2008 *BETA Release*

* Support for DarkBASIC 6.9 - Vista users now get full compiler output without running Synergy Editor/DBP as an administrator
* Advanced settings available from the properties window

http://www.digitalzenith.net/synergyeditor/Synergy_Editor_13_June_08.zip

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Posted: 19th Jun 2008 01:13
A small request (more of a nit-picky thing):

I make my projects out of several source files (tons actually ). In each of them I define functions that are called in other files. I like that user functions have syntax highlighting in Synergy Editor - however it doesn't highlight them if they are from another file. It will when you first switch over, but once the highlighting updates, they become plain text again. Is it possible to add an option to keep highlighting for user functions in other source files?

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Posted: 19th Jun 2008 10:49
Quote: "A small request (more of a nit-picky thing):"


It's not a small request it's a fundamental change to the semantic parsing process. However, I am unhappy with the current system, so I'm currently planning project wide semantic analysis which would enable this. Once I have it working perfectly in C# (my prototyping language) then it will be a quick port over to C++. I have no idea of the time scale however, perhaps TGC will implement it for me

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Posted: 19th Jun 2008 14:28
Quote: "perhaps TGC will implement it for me"


Are you not telling us something ?


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Posted: 19th Jun 2008 18:29
John,

I've just had a weird problem that I just can't fix.

Basically I've been working on a project (Daibotron) for a little while now using Synergy without any problems. I made it a media project and inserted all the images from a seperate folder (one level down from main program). No worries. I made a demo and anyone can use it from whichever directory they like just using the exe (because media is embedded using media project type).

Anyway, I go to release a second demo and notice that the program will not run on it's own (ie. only the exe). On further notice I see that there is nothing in the media tab within Synergy. So I addd back in. Save everything. Exit. Go back in. No media. Eh? Even making sure media is there in tab and then compiling does not work. Upgrading to the latest Synergy does not help either.

I seem to slightly recall something like this being mentioned a while back when we were using the beta testing site, but cannot remember what happened. Can you tell me how to get around this problem or if a fix is in the works?

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Posted: 20th Jun 2008 20:13
Quote: "Are you not telling us something ?"


Check the Newsletter thread in Geek Talk


@Everyone:
I'm working with Dazzag to see if I can help him fix his problem

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Posted: 20th Jun 2008 20:16
20th June 2008 - *BETA Release*

* Incorrect logic used in writing advanced properties is now fixed
* Templates were not copied correctly when creating a new project
* File>Save All no longer creates a full source dump (only needed during compiling)

http://www.digitalzenith.net/synergyeditor/Synergy_Editor_20_June_08.zip

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Oh, another request (hopefully this one IS little): Could you add an alphabetical sort function to the Solution Explorer? If I recall I think CodeSurge did this, and I liked the sense of orginization. The drop down menu for active files already does this so I can't imagine it being to difficult.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 13:57 Edited at: 21st Jun 2008 14:03
As this is now going official we need to improve it somewhere:

* I have some little problems with Code View. Basically it does not highlight some functions. But not all. Check the screen shot. I looked for some invisible characters that might prevent it from detecting this line as a new function but there is nothing else than the function name.


(it apparently does not like my whole REMOVE and REMOVEALL function set - must be something with reserved names or the like)

* Other problem is that Code View (when it updates) at least on my PC scrolls back to the top of the functions list. It usually happens when I point mouse over a certain function and would like to click on it to go to the correct source line when suddenly Code View refreshes and the scroller goes back to the top so I have to search through the list for this particular function again.

* Last but not least - even you have fixed major problems with not compiling applications some problems still exist. For example if you use a precompiler almost 50% of your compilations will not run after compilation or not compile at all and as I mentioned before compile menu becomes grayed out - it looks like it is waiting for something to happen (apparently it is something to deal with precompiler or dbp's compiler) but it just waits and does nothing until I close the editor.

I know that it must give you more detailed reports but I currently do not have much time so ask me if you did not understand something.


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Quote: "Oh, another request (hopefully this one IS little): Could you add an alphabetical sort function to the Solution Explorer? If I recall I think CodeSurge did this, and I liked the sense of orginization. The drop down menu for active files already does this so I can't imagine it being to difficult."


The tree shows the build order less the entry in bold which is always the first. Why do you need it in alphabetical order, for finding a file quickly?

@Olby,

That work all links to the semantic parser, and will be fixed when I write the new one.

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Quote: "Why do you need it in alphabetical order, for finding a file quickly?"


Yea. I always put a prefix on my files, in this case usually core, client, or server. I'm kinda picky about orginization too. But I could just be crazy

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Quote: ""Why do you need it in alphabetical order, for finding a file quickly?""


Yeah, that would be nice.


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Well as the new PhysX compo requires the use of DBP, and Codesurge does or used to lag like crap on Vista I'm going to use this(as I'm not going to use the default IDE). After 5 mins of usage many things ticked me off. First off, the mousewheel scrolling speed still isn't fixed, the slightest scroll will only change the line by 1, my current mousewheel settings should shift it 4 or 5 lines.

Secondly, the text editing really needs to be fixed. For example, if I click somewhere on a line, if I hold shift and click elsewhere I expect all the characters and lines between these 2 positions to be selected, every other text editor I've used has this functionality, it just doesn't do anything in Synergy.

Thirdly, block tabbing/untabbing is slow, and when I tick replace tabs with spaces, it adds tabs when I press tab and vice versa, plus the support for space based tabs is very limited, if I press tab I get 4 nice spaces, but pressing backspace on this removes 1 at a time. If I add a space then press tab I get a total of 5 spaces, it should only have added 3 to make a total of 4.

Fourth, when changing some settings in the options the apply button doesn't activate, I must change and revert other random settings until it shows, the tab width for instance.

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Quote: "Codesurge does or used to lag like crap on Vista I'm going to use this"


I have not tried but author has updated Codesurge and now it is working perfectly in Vista. So they say.


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Quote: "I have not tried but author has updated Codesurge and now it is working perfectly in Vista. So they say."


Yes they did, awesome, Codesurge to the rescue .

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Is there a way to make the editor NOT save the file automatically when i compile?
I'm using vista, and this is the backup portion of the synergy editor ini:

; Backup
AllowBackup=FALSE
BackupOnProjectOpen=FALSE
BackupOnProjectClose=FALSE
BackupLocation=0
BackupDirectory=
BackupOnCompile=FALSE
BackupOnSave=FALSE
BackupInterval=-1
BackupType=0
BackupRemoveInterval=-1
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Any news on the media problem John?

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Help required please...

The version of Synergy Editor that I was using said it was outdated so I downloaded the latest Jun 29 2008 build, I have deleted the old version, all seemed well until I pressed F5 (Compile and Run) I get the error "Could not find a DLL (..\plugins-licenced\dbprocore.dll)" after the comilation phase and my code will not run.
I have searched for dbprocore.dll and find it in ..\plugins (not plugins-licenced).
Please advise as to what has changed in this latest version.

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@dark coder

Thanks, will get your issues fixed.

Quote: "Is there a way to make the editor NOT save the file automatically when i compile?"


No, all work must be saved as part of the compilation process.

Quote: "Any news on the media problem John?"


Not as yet, can you send me your code. The last email lost it's attachement.

@Tone Dialer

This sounds like a DBPro issue. Nothing in Synergy Editor will caused that issue. What you can do is check your options to see if Synergy Editor is using your correct DBPro installation. Otherwise, I suggest re-installing and re-updating DBPro.

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@John Y

Quote: "I get the error "Could not find a DLL (..\plugins-licenced\dbprocore.dll)""


I found the answer to my problem in the following thread....

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=128754&b=15

By default Synergy Editor.ini sets
ExternaliseDLLS=TRUE
setting it to FALSE has fixed my problem.

I now remember doing this early on when first using Synergy, it begs the question when upgrading to the latest version is it OK the keep my current Synergy Editor.ini ?

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Quote: "Not as yet, can you send me your code. The last email lost it's attachement."
Done.

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WTF!!!!

"Application has expired, pleas visit http://www.digitalzenith.net/ to download a new version"

What a hell... how this is posible??

i have Synergy_Editor_29_June_08.zip.... argh!!!


FIX IT!!!

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Will be updated tomorrow evening when I get back home. I wanted to upload the new version last weekend, but didn't have time in the end.

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i got somthing cool that you should add
in the backup thing
you should give the person the option for the program to auto make folders eg
the date is 31/7/2008
so itll make a folder called that, and all the backups from that day will be in there
and the next day itll make and save the files in a folder called 1/8/2008
the person gets the option to do this or not, and gets the options:
make a new folder for each day/week/month/year

and you should add that the person can add the system that they call the files
eg
if they put Hi and choose number it will be Hi 1 - Hi 2 etc

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^ Indeed that's a very nice idea you've got there Outscape. This is something I would personally like to see in Synergy too.


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Hey John Y i dont know if you are updating things right at this moment but half an hour ago Synergy told me to Download newest version from your site but it doesnt help, i always get that message and it exists

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Yeah, I've never liked that message. Doesn't help when your network is clogged up and you just want to program etc. Can't it just be a warning that pops up every single time you load up the editor until you update it? Much better (esp. with the option to turn it completely off). Plus, not to be morbid, but if you got run over by a bus tomorrow then there goes our favourite DBP editor forever.

Oh, and any luck with the media problem I have? I got around it in the end, but you wouldn't like how I did it...

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Hm keeps pop-ing up the "Your Application Expired etc"... And i have the same version as the one on your website!
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Quote: "Hm keeps pop-ing up the "Your Application Expired etc"... And i have the same version as the one on your website! "

ditto

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I wanted to try it but I got that message too

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