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kaedroho
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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 11:39 Edited at: 7th Dec 2008 11:40
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Moved to Codesurge, and you are correct, it is infinitely better than Synergy (even when it works) so im not going to move back! Codesurge is much easier too. to find the code explorer or project explorer you dont have to go clicking alot of buttons to find it, all you have to do is move your eyes and your there. It isnt as buggy either.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 15:47 Edited at: 7th Dec 2008 15:49
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Synergy still isn't reporting errors . Anyone know how to fix this? Setting "Externalize DLLs" to NO didn't work. If there's no fix I may go back to CodeSurge...

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There's no fix for this! I would be using Codesurge or BlueIDE 2 (which I helped to develop) too but the problem is that they both do not work correctly under VISTA. So I am left with nothing to work with and my expectations to finish some parts of my engine this weekend failed.


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I'm guessing Vista is why I'm having problems with CodeSurge and BlueIDE as well. Personally, Synergy hasn't let me down and strikes me as very professionally laid out, but this one little thing is very annoying I think I did get codesurge to work awhile ago but it had some issues, and for some reason it seems that certain DLLs don't get included into my EXE without synergy

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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 17:11 Edited at: 7th Dec 2008 17:13
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Synergy of course has lots of bugs that require ironing like for example problems with indentation and some others but all in all it satisfies me but I see that after signing contract with TGC John lost interest in it which is sad as TGC most probably will not update it quite frequently as John did it before.

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Hey everyone, just saw that John uploaded new version on his site. Grab it here: http://www.digitalzenith.net/synergyeditor/Synergy_Editor_7_Dec_08.zip




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John Y
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Sorry about it expiring. This version will expire in about a month, the version after this will not expire.

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Quote: "Synergy still isn't reporting errors . Anyone know how to fix this? Setting "Externalize DLLs" to NO didn't work."


Try running Synergy Editor under the Administrator account.

Quote: "I have a problem - line continuations don't want to work."


Remove the trailing whitespace after the _

Quote: "Folding on anything other than functions is also ignored."


For parsing speed, folding will only work on foldable items that are the only thing on the line.

Quote: "I noticed that when you create a new project you can select a template. However is there any way to save a project as a template?"


Make a new folder called Templates and copy *.dba files into there.

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Using the tmem and smem commands I get the wrong values when pressing F5 in Synergy, yet when I run the executable by double clicking, the values are correct. The default editor reports correct values when using F5. That said the dmem command reports my display memory as 2287 what ever the ide, which can`t be right, surely?

results;
dmem always 2287
when compiling using the F5 feature in synergy;
smem is 1024
tmem is 1024
when compiling using the F5 feature in standard ide or double clicking the executable;
smem=3209
tmem=4094
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Todd Riggins
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There he is! Thanks for the update John.

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Hi folks, Please Stop complaining about Synergy, I mean John has done a great job whit it. Anyway there are other's you can chose if you don't like it. For me Synergy its the predilected choice because as a .NET developer i feel more confortable whit The Synergy aperace that resamble Visual Studio. And even Visual Studio has bugs.

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Posted: 8th Dec 2008 11:42 Edited at: 8th Dec 2008 11:47
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Quote: "Hi folks, Please Stop complaining about Synergy"

I believe the complaints are warranted. No one is saying John hasn`t done a great job so far. All available ide`s have issues, without complaints issues that can be improved may not get addressed. You may notice that the complaints relating to expiration seem to have prompted the release of an update...again

John Y - Thanks for the update, do you have info on any changes, or is this release purely to account for expiration? I don`t suppose you have made progress with regards to problem of file association conflict with CodeSurge whilst using Vista?
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Quote: "And even Visual Studio has bugs."


But Microsoft doesnt put code into their products to make them suddenly expire and not upload an update for a whole day.

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Posted: 17th Dec 2008 02:05 Edited at: 17th Dec 2008 02:36
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Today I decided to check out some old code, which failed when I ran it(both through the IDE and just the exe on its own). The error was "Could not create memblock at line x". So I did some tests, as this project had worked before, I assumed that it was U7.1b12. In the default IDE and Synergy I could no longer create memblocks larger than 255mb. Confirmation it was U7.1b12. After a little think, my attention span went, leaving me staring at the screen, noticing that I had right clicked a project and the mouse happened to be hovering over the "open with" option. I have 3 options for dbp - open with Synergy Editor, DBPRO or Dark Basic Proffesional Editor. Now I`ve seen this hundreds of times before - only the DBPRO option(shortcut for Launch.exe) succesfully opens a project in the default IDE(editor update 1.09 creates this option), but on this occasion it took my interest. So I ran with the third option(Editor.exe) and success, memblocks greater than 255mb work just fine. But guess what, I then ran the code I provided in my other post, in each of the three IDE`s - Launch.exe, Editor.exe and Synergy.exe - only to find the false reading of 1024 was now a false reading of 256! Of course no false readings with editor.exe. In short its clear that something is going on here that puts a halt on me using Synergy, and I will be forced to open projects from within the Editor.exe IDE rather than double clicking or using "open with", or I will have to revert back to another version(I`m unsure as of yet which version).

Edit : Problem solved - as DBP does not officially support vista I had compatability mode switched on for XP for one of the default IDE exe`s(did this ages back just in case to all three exe`s) and yesterday I was re-discovering Extends XGUI and so the remaining default IDE exe and Synergy.exe had compatability set for win98 (won`t compile under Vista otherwise), switched them all off and I get memblocks back and tmem works fine now. Sorry for any inconvenience
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Hey John I was wondering if you knew about a feature that is in the default IDE where if you press control and space after typing part of a command it will give you a list of possible commands. You can then select one and it will complete it for you.
This is very handy if you forgot a command and are too lazy to find it in the help file.
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i have just reinstalled darkbasic to get rid of the error " Db_program.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. "
i got similair error's in all availible IDE's including synergy.

so i did a reinstall of darkbasic and the problem is solved but synergy keeps giving me " Game.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. "
whats the problem? directx is 9.0c and i'm using windows xp

thank you.
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Quote: "a feature that is in the default IDE where if you press control and space after typing part of a command it will give you a list of possible commands. You can then select one and it will complete it for you."


Synergy has Intellisence as an option. Just turn it on under the tools-options-text editor menu option.


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Yesterday I installed DBP on my laptop and went through the authorisation process. For some reason doing it through Synergy totally locked the machine up and everything really crawled along without being able to do hardly anything (even the task manager refused to appear). In the end I had to hard reset it. I tried 2 more times with the same result. In the end I used the standard DBP IDE and it worked fine. Went back into Synergy and all was good.

This was on Vista Ultimate 32bit.

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19th February 2009

Merge Lee Bambers source code changes into Synergy Editor (he added code to handle some different situations etc)
Removed some resources that are never going to be used
Fixed an issue where 1). Synergy Editor could not correctly read the error output on Vista machines 2). Synergy Editor did not support Vista virtualisation for 64bit Windows
Removed custom temporary folder location, the windows one is now always used
Update window now uses TGC servers
Synergy Editor can now compile projects without needing to save open modified documents
As far as I can see Synergy Editor is fully Windows 7 compatible

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Can you make it report errors? This is why I dont use Synergy.

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Seems ok here, except my problem of file associations mentioned above. Managed to fix it though using this http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/105/1/File-association-fixes-for-Windows-Vista.html
For anyone with same problem;
Select exe and download. Drop it in the same place as the exe you want to correct(my case I had to rename synergy to "synergy" from "codesurge" and rename codesurge from "codesurge1" to "codesurge" and then do this process for both synergy.exe and codesurge.exe).
Once in place right click and select merge. That simple.

Quote: "I've seen this before, it usually happens on Vista. I'll research it and let you know what I find."


As to wether its codesurge or synergy that created this problem remains a mystery, main thing is there is a fix.
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John Y
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Quote: "Can you make it report errors? This is why I dont use Synergy."


It's one of the fixed items. What OS do you use?

James H

I think you can configure file associations by doing Start>Default Programs

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I use Windows XP. It just says "syntax error" and points me to the line and doesnt tell me whats wrong with it.

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I`ve tried that method, it just refused to play nice. Thanks anyway

edit:
the window with the options available to choose from only provides anything(except for non dbp ide exe`s) with the name codesurge(this was installed prior to synergy) as an available option to choose from; even when I browse and select synergy, the option wont come up(not even in the bottom half of the dropdown view). Only way prior to that reg fix was to rename synergy as codesurge(obviously had to rename codesurge aswell)
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Posted: 19th Feb 2009 20:48 Edited at: 19th Feb 2009 20:49
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Try enabling comprehensive error reporting.



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Also, depending on the size of your console output, you may need to scroll up to tell exactly what the error was

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Excellent!!



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Excelent. There is a sneaky upgrade here that should enable you to turn off comprehensive error reporting, and just get the concise error message.

http://www.digitalzenith.net/synergyeditor/synergy_editor_20_feb_09.zip

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Dont know if you are aware of this, but if you try to used the CARBON skin, which looks great btw, the close button (top right) disappears.
IE, on the top left of Synergy, which carbon skin, only minimize and fullscreen/windowed buttons exist.

Ive got synergy from Dark Game Studio, but when i go to HELP > UPDATE, it says there are no updates available (ie, "you are up to date") but it clearly doesnt have the new things you have added to this 20 FEB release. Should Dark Game Studio buyers ditch the DBPro release and just use the normal one you are updating here?
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Quote: "the close button (top right) disappears."


Well, you're never going to use that, so no problem. Seriously. I'll take a look, what's your OS and do you have a screen shot I can analyse?

Quote: "Should Dark Game Studio buyers ditch the DBPro release and just use the normal one you are updating here?"


It's up to you. Generally my releases will be newer and will have more features.

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Well considering TGC's havent released an update for their "version" since the fist one (Nov 2008), i think ill use the original (ie yours!)

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John Y,

The editor is great, thanks. I do receive the following error when I try to print or print preview:

"encountered an improper argument"

I am using Windows XP SP3 and the print setup works fine.

Thanks for your help.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Synergy Editor supposed to be available for regular DBP users now that DarkGame Studio has been released?

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@Siddy

Thanks.

Quote: "The editor is great, thanks. I do receive the following error when I try to print or print preview:

"encountered an improper argument" "


I'll take a look.

Quote: "Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Synergy Editor supposed to be available for regular DBP users now that DarkGame Studio has been released?"


It's always been available to regular users. I believe the main TGC website will be update shortly.

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Quote: "It's always been available to regular users. I believe the main TGC website will be update shortly."


Previously it was only available as a trial which would expire. Is this still the case?

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??????????????????????

(see attached)

look what has happened to the compile and run button, the same thing happens on all the buttons when i hover over them.

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Quote: "[quote]Quote: "It's always been available to regular users. I believe the main TGC website will be update shortly.""


Previously it was only available as a trial which would expire. Is this still the case?[/quote]

No it was and is totally freeware, but to get people updating their versions John made them expire after a couple of months. After it expired you would simply download the latest version to continue working. As far as I see this expiring will be disabled once the Synergy is officially distributed with DBPro.

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I've just started using synergy, and have some bugs/requests:

- Setting it to auto indent when you press enter after an opening of a code block, and setting it to convert tabs to spaces causes problems, because the cursor only moves forward one place, when it needs to move forward 4 to move after the spaces.

- When you set it to automatically add the finishing code line (such as 'endfunction') it does not check if there is already a matching end statement (in this case 'endfunction').

- Should the plugin manager do anything yet?

Looking forward to this (or a version of this) becoming the default IDE (and my debugger being integrated with it)

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Another thing, when a function is collapsed, include the 'function <functionname>(<params> )' text before the collapsed section

Also, keywords are not highlighted if they are followed by a ',' or '.' (which is common in a parameter list for example).

Also, let us have more formatting options when specifying keyword formatting, like bold/underline/italic/etc.

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Quote: "But Microsoft doesnt put code into their products to make them suddenly expire and not upload an update for a whole day.
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not true... ever tried VC Express 2005? that locked you out after a certain day as well (maybe its one of the betas im thinking of...)

of course it didnt take the whole day to download the new one either, lol

also i didnt notice this posted elsewhere, but i just installed Synergy and when compiling, it keeps generating messed up exes... ive checked my directories and everything is set properly. i got no idea what the problem is. winXP btw.

Edit: nevermind just tried compiling in the default editor and same thing... must have a bad install.
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well... i did a reinstall(dbpro) and it worked... however, after compiling and running in synergy, then compiling in the normal ide, i went back to synergy and tried to recompile it again... corrupt exe files. after that i try loading the source from clipboard back into the normal ide... still corrupt exe. seems as tho something is corrupting the compiler. doesnt work again until i reinstall. ive done this 3 times now... same results.

i love the inteface of the new editor but i hope this is a problem that is easily resolved, cause until then im obviously gonna be stuck with the default ide

Edit: also noticed my default ide doesnt work anymore after closing it and tying to reopen it until a reinstall either. out of curiosity... does synergy change any dbpro registry settings? i find it unlikely that the actual compiler is being corrupted. and thanks for your work on synergy too.
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Quote: "not true... ever tried VC Express 2005? that locked you out after a certain day as well (maybe its one of the betas im thinking of...)
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Actually, That only happens if you dont register within 30 days. Registration is free, You only do it once, Then you write down the key and reuse it whenever.

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back then the betas locked out even if registered but that was after a year or so if i remember correctly. thats why i thought it may have been a beta release. i havent used a beta of the 2008 editions tho so i dont know if it was removed or not
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Hi everyone,

I am new to Dark Basic and am having a problem with this editor. After loading a project and running it with F5, when I exit the editor, it asks me if I want to save the project (didn't make any source code changes). Answering yes or no, it doesn't matter, the .dba file is deleted. I have tried deleting the config. file so it would create a new one, same results. Any ideas?
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As a followup, the .dba file is deleted during the compilation process (F4 or F5). I have tried both the accelerated compilation option turned on and off.

The project compiles fine using the default editor.
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I've dled the IDE, but I went to test it with a simple 'hello world' program and it wouldn't run. It says it compiled fine, but everytime it would sit for around 10 seconds then say "game.exe has stopped working." and ask me if I wanted to report the problem to Microsoft...



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@aarrowh

thats the same problem i am having with it. if you save your source and migrate it back to the default ide does it give you the same problem? what about copying and pasting the code?

in my attempts, i couldnt get the default ide to run anything in the default ide either after trying in synergy. I had to do a reinstall of dbp before i could compile anything. as i said in my previous post, i did this multiple times and still had the same effect. i really hope the kinks get worked out because it seems like a nice ide.
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aarrowh:

Have you made sure that 'Externalise DLLs' under the 'Properties' column is set to 'No'?

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I must be doing something wrong. The editor flags a line in error but doesn't tell me what the error is. Is there some setting I need to set?
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Quote: "I must be doing something wrong. The editor flags a line in error but doesn't tell me what the error is. Is there some setting I need to set? "


Are you using my release or the one with the latest DBP update. If the latter then download my version (see the first post)

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Is it possible to make certain things bold/italic/underlined etc, like in the default IDE (the old one) how it makes keywords not oly blue but also bold?

It's nothing major, but it's convenient when you have two colors that are similar (I have functions as a dark yellow and variables as a dark green and they look almost exactly the same) to seperate them.

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Posted: 6th May 2009 16:59
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The application has expired again

This seems like a silly thing to do - what does making it expire accomplish? It's the only thing that irritates me about this editor, especially since other editors don't seem to like either my copy of DBP or my project files for some reason so I can't continue work until I get a newer version.

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