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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] Free Source Release: Lemur V2 Latest Build

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Airslide
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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 00:21
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I practically had to practice spelling your name, xlposlsy.

Sorry couldn't resist

Anyways....I'll go on my coding spree once urlforce sends me the new source - I want to adapt all my previous changes and any future changes with the new timing system.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 00:43
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You have it in your inbox airslide

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Plystire
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Don't worry, xplosys, I feel your concern as well. Everytime I add something to the code, I go back and make sure that nothing broke because of my fix (I just recently had to go through adding a single line of code at a time and compiling it after each line added to find out what I did that made all the doors and windows disappear..... turn out to be something really stupid, lol)

Anywho, just know that I'm being as careful as I can, and even though S4 says that he can't get lightmapping and fog to work right now, I just now compiled a small level with both in it working fine. So, I don't know what problem he's having is... perhaps he had a bad compile.

You didn't take our thread away, you were discussing it, so that's on topic as far as I'm concerned.


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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 02:29
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Quote: "You have it in your inbox airslide "


But I'm missing all the extra files I need I sent Plystire a message about it, apparently I'm missing the water files, and I'll need the new setup.ini aswell.

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Inspire
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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 02:42
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This is the only thread I actually look forward to checking in the FPSC section besides Demon Sun.

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Quote: "This is the only thread I actually look forward to checking in the FPSC section besides Demon Sun."

I would complain, but seeing that I'm posting everything at here and at IGD, I won't.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 15:22
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*Ahem!*


*glances down at the "View" button below the post*


I must say, I do feel rather accomplished, having done that withOUT plugins and in the course of a single night.




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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 16:16
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Woho! Great!

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Wow, just make sure it doesn't work in a built game Does water work in MP? Also how do you change the currents direction? Nice work Ply.
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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 16:40
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Quote: "I must say, I do feel rather accomplished, having done that withOUT plugins and in the course of a single night."


I despise you....I was gonna do that!

Well more work done for me BTW, I think I know which shader you used for the water so I think I can find the files, but you forgot to send the extra files with the source.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 16:53
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Hehe looks good
If you need any help i can lend.. Im currently intrested into FPSC mechanics.. So i can help


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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 17:08 Edited at: 28th Jan 2008 17:57
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@Slayer222:

It's coded with the other debug controls, so if you can use them, you can use this.

I haven't tested Water with MP, but by all accounts it should work.

The water current is set through a trigger zone, and once an object has been effected BY the water current, it will exhibit the current last given to it until told otherwise.

Example code (From my demo):


@Airslide:

Sorry!!! But with NightHawk flashing his sliders all over YouTube, I couldn't hold myself back, lol.


The "console" (as I call it) is called up by pressing the "~" key on your keyboard. And to hide the console, you simply press the key again. It's really easy to use, I promise.


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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 17:09
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I was going to mention something about how similar this looks to Nighthawks. He might get a little angry at that.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 17:22 Edited at: 28th Jan 2008 17:53
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Quote: "I was going to mention something about how similar this looks to Nighthawks. He might get a little angry at that."


Well then allow me to lay on you how it's different:

- I have Tabs implemented into my console for organization, NightHawk has one ginormous console with as much stuff crammed into it as he could.

- NightHawk's Sliders looked more based on normal Windows sliders (The bar slides along INSIDE the rail), whereas mine is more based upon.... I dunno... music sliders, lol.

- NightHawk has a button down at the bottom of the console... mine doesn't need a button.


And THAT'S why Ply isn't a copycat.


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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 18:09
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True. Yours does look a whole lot more organized.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 18:09
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Quote: "And THAT'S why Ply isn't a copycat."


You never do.....

Quote: "Sorry!!! But with NightHawk flashing his sliders all over YouTube, I couldn't hold myself back, lol."


Hmm....

Why does water always accompany a slider console?

Also, I see this will be having Bloom as well then....

Roll up FPSC X9.5!

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 18:12
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Plystire, I hope you know I wasn't trying to call you a copy cat or anything. In fact, Urlforce and I were having a conversation about the slider console yesterday...

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 18:18
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I know you weren't, gunn3r... but if you have read any of the posts on the german boards... well, they seem to think otherwise. (regardless of EVERYONE copying from FPSCX10 )

@coffee grunt:

I dunno... I had the setup.ini options pretty easily changable and understandable (Setting waterlevel to "7" would make it so the level loaded with the water raised up to layer 7 )

But, now that I've actually used sliders, I think it's a very handy tool indeed!
You actually get to look at what the end results are going to be.


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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 18:19
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Yes......

every step you're all making here is in the right direction.....

A few more and the journeys end shall be near....lol.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 18:22
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Lol, it should already be near!

Let's see here... our list of things needing to get done is dwindling down slowly but surely.

If I stopped getting caught up on things that I WANT to do versus things I SHOULD do, then I bet it'd be ready faster, lol.


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Sliders...finally someone has heard my prayers.I assume that this means you can change things like ambience,etc. in test game without having to end the test game,opne its setup file and make the adjustment and load your game again.
That would save me loads of time and aggravation.
Airslide,
The stuff I sent you should work with DBP 6.6.

Please have mercy and use the search function.
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WOW all these additions....

i don't check the boards for two days and suddenly so many things are added! wow! well done guys! ply your water rules!!!! lol

this may sounds like a stupid question, but is it possible to put some sort of recoil on the guns? i would have thought it would just mean moving the player camera? but what do i know! lol absolutly nothing lol.....

You guys rule!

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This looks absolutely incredible.

Great work.

I think you could spice up those sliders a bit...maybe use images for them or something.

Also, there is one last thing that I want to request for this to be my absolute favorite thing ever.

That would be launching an .exe from inside of FPSC, kinda like empty's mod. If you did that, I would be so freaking happy.

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My suggestion would be to add some sort of menu system for built games, allowing both single player and multiplayer within the same .exe. It may be impossible, but that doesn't stop me from wishing for it...

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I was planning on writing something like that in DBP for Gone, and then making the title screen skip right into loading the game. Too many things that I'm planning on doing.

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Quote: "It may be impossible, but that doesn't stop me from wishing for it... "

Not only is it possible but someone has already done it.
Les Horribles (or whatever he calls himself now) released something called the Arnac menu (I think...it was a couple of years ago) that would allow you to launch the single player or multiplayer from the same .exe.I don't remember any more about it than that.It's been a while,I'm on too much medicine and I've had a beer or two since then.
I see no reason why this can't be implemented.Compared to some of the requests being given (including mine) this should be relatively simple.
I tell you what I would really like.When I kill an enemy he/she/it falls to the ground or if there is a wall or something like that nearby the enemy would fall against it/bounce off of it or something as compared to being halfway on one side of the wall and halfway on the other.
Just a thought.

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We may in the future "experiment" with dark physics for features like that, (notice how i didnt mention ragdoll ) but for v2 we're just trying to polish everything and get it out.

Anys airslide- sent you an email, let's get you going

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Oh. Thanks FredP. I thought it was either too difficult, or impossible. Thanks for pointing that out.

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*cough* recoil question? *cough*

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Recoil would be up to the animator of the weapon. Don't you think?

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no i meant camera movement, its something that makes the games created with this engine seem a bit odd to me, maybe it is me that finds that but i would love for the camera to move when youare hurt or fire a weapon

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I'll look into it. No promises

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AWSOME! lol thanks dude!

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HALT! Lol, weapons are my job Recoil *should* be pretty easy to do (and be customizable in the gunspec, which all of my features are)

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I'm finalizing the lemur launcher

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Wait for Airslide!

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Quote: "Wait for Airslide!"

We are, I am finishing the app that goes with the mod to set options...

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How are we going to use Airslides pump-action shotgun mod? Doesn't it repeat the reload animation for every shot fired? That means we would need a new .x file for all pump-action shotguns. Can you enlighten me on the details please Airslide?

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It's a reload mod. If "shotgun" is equal to 1 in the gunspec, it loops the reload loop animation while reloading until the weapon is full. So if you fired two shots, it plays the animation twice. Three shots, three times, ect.

All my mods are customizable via the gunspec. Including the new "gun lag" feature (where the gun sorta lags behind from the camera), which is something inspire wanted for X10 I think...

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Quote: "I think you could spice up those sliders a bit...maybe use images for them or something."


Look, man, I know my graphics skills aren't all that great but does it REALLY look like I used DBP's 2D commands to make everything?

If I had done that, it woulda shot down to like.... 0.024813 FPS!!!

In other words, I am already using images...


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That's what I meant Airslide, I'm not so great at explaining things Anyhow, if we have MP6 or the stock media mossberg, we are kinda sunk unless we can animate. I need to find some tuts on fixing Animations I guess.

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You won't need to redo any animations for his mod to work... it simply runs off of the existing reload animation.


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Plystire, I can create some slider graphics for you. I'll get with you later tonight and we can discuss the style of it all...


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Not really.. You could have avoided this by locking pixels or using D3D but.. Images are still better


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Quote: "You won't need to redo any animations for his mod to work... it simply runs off of the existing reload animation."
I won't? Lets take the MP6 Shorty Shotgun for example. The reload animation is reloading 3 shells and then cocking the gun. With Airslides mod, if I empty the gun and reload it will appear that I reloaded 9 shells and cocked the gun 3 times, right? Unless Airslide has some kind of magic FPSC wand I don't see how he could do it any other way... Maybe I'm just thick. Maybe you all have magic FPSC wands or something
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Btw does this system use DBPRO Default animation system?
If it uses.. CHANGE IT TO ANOTHER ANIMATION SYSTEM RIGHT AWAY

First it isnt timer based.. Second it can kill FPS!


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Shhh....

Anyways, The animations for those MP6 weapons should be fixable - since every time you load the shell it's virtually the same, all I have to do is find the range to load one shell and change the values for the reload animations. When lemur's available for the public I'll probably have a How-To guide on modding weapons with my new features (among other things, if it isn't incoperated into some sort of manual) and I'll include the new animation ranges for MP6 shotguns. MP9 & MP10, on the other hand, simply can't use the feature I'll talk to Errant about it, he may be willing to do a little update.

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I can't wait to have Lemur

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Feels weird, Lemurs release being so close and all. One more question from me though. Will Lemur work in the 2.0 version of FPSC? This is probably a stupid question, but I'd rather just put it out there.

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