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mike5424
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Posted: 22nd May 2010 20:59
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Thanks! I saw that site on the pixologic site but the best tutorials are really expencive, Especially as i'm not making any money from 3D yet also, I wanted to buy a book so i could take it with me and learn on the go Well, I might get the 3rd one first then get the 1st some other time. I had a look inside (Using amazon's awesome feature) and it seems to cover alot of practical stuff where as the other seem more theory. I understand zbrush and what the tools do, I just don't know how to make a proper model. do you think that would be a good idea then?

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Mazz426
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well it really depends what you're looking for, the 3rd book would be my buy, i do highly recommend that you check the freebies section on gnomon first, there's a lot of good stuff there

anyway i decided to do some more anatomical studying to revise my modelling, tell me what you think, also its been about 1 - 2 hours of sculpting (20 mins just for the teeth )
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Mazz426
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Posted: 23rd May 2010 17:18
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heres an update, just finished the skull, its intended to be a speed sculpt/ study just to revise some general anatomy, tell me what you think
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also i'll be posting an update on 'the fat man' soon, in the midst of posing an expresion

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Mazz426
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Posted: 23rd May 2010 19:17 Edited at: 23rd May 2010 19:18
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heres the final image for the fat man, really happy to leave it behind...
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Posted: 23rd May 2010 20:23
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scary as shinit.

Thats a hell of a job there matey ^_^


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Posted: 23rd May 2010 21:55
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love the simple black fade around him. Perfect for the atmosphere.


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i would like to see the eyes textured though,... but it looks very good and as laz said, very scary =)


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i like the look it makes him look blind

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Posted: 24th May 2010 06:02
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Quote: "heres the final image for the fat man, really happy to leave it behind...
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And he sure went out with a bang! Great Work!

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Mazz426
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Posted: 24th May 2010 12:41 Edited at: 24th May 2010 12:42
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thanks for the comments guys, reallly appreciate it

quik@

in the end i went for a blind/ dead look i thought a texture would slightly ruin that, and any reflective matcap in zbrush won't display a texture, at least in the basic materials pallette

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thanks that exactly what i was going for

started another speed sculpt of an alien, done about an hours work on him, mabey and hour and 20, not sure, anyway tell me what you think
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Mazz426
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heres an update on the alien bust, started detailing, tell me what you think
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Posted: 24th May 2010 16:53
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I am gobsmacked! awesome work, simply awesome!

Cheers!

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Mazz426
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Posted: 24th May 2010 21:20
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david@

thanks, appreciate it

heres an update, the texture for his has been a *cough* storm, i've broken it down to two final options and i'm not quite sure which to use, the matcap i've made is intended to look like a thin layer of translucent skin white a very high specular value, please let me know which one of these two textures you prefer, the first has him with blue-ish blookd the second has him with red blood/ muscles, feedback welcome
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and heres the second
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Posted: 24th May 2010 21:36 Edited at: 24th May 2010 21:37
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It's a shame you didn't work more on the eyes on your fat/dead/living dead/blind head. It looks unfinished. Even the blind have irises. Looks good but it could have been better.

Blue looks ok but you should try some other colors too. Maybe a Blue-Green or a Blue-Dark Purple.
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Well, honestly I don't like the red one. So I would go for the blue one, or maybe add a bit of yellowish glow to the translucency, nah, I don't know to much about texturing but I really like the blue one.

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Posted: 24th May 2010 23:49
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Blue one caught me attention first. More realistic than the red one.


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thanks for the feedback guys, it really helped, i tried a lot of variations, and have come down to these, tell me what you think

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Posted: 25th May 2010 20:27
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haven't done a lot of work today, heres a small update, added some kind of visor or something
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I do not like that visor, blocks WAY to much of the character itself

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Posted: 26th May 2010 05:05
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With that added visor, and maybe if you added a top head gaurd, it'd be like the space pirates from Metroid. Odd thought.

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Posted: 26th May 2010 13:33
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i too thought it covered to much of the face last night so i started some variations and came to this, i finished it about 20 mins ago and it took about 10 so its wip but now its time for zbrush detailing, also the materials are just place holders designed to show you how the models pieces are seperated, the loop around the front is also seperate from the base at the back, forgot to use a different texture, oh well, anyway lease tell me what you think, feedbacks the only way i'll improve
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guess what, changed my mind again... sigh, oh well heres it at the moment, finished detailing the helmet/ cardinal hat style thing, so please tell me what you think feedback would be appreciated
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mike5424
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Looks a bit like a brain hat

Nice work mate! You seem so full of idea's!

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think it would be better if it covered the whole head, not just the front head. but it do looks good from the front yea=)


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Quote: "think it would be better if it covered the whole head, not just the front head. but it do looks good from the front yea=)"
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

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well everyone has knicked my crit lol.

Bar the hat, the front lip seems too flappy skined...


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Posted: 28th May 2010 18:46 Edited at: 28th May 2010 18:46
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well heres an update on the helmet, urgh forgot about the lip sorry laz, i'll correct next update, i see what you mean, also the idea for this guy was he was somewhere cold, hence the fur on the inside of the helmet
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looked better before imho, now it just looks silly, the other hat made him look more serious and higher ranked


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The inside looks like a woolen hat while the top looks like another part of his head Nice work though!

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I liked the visor more.

why don't you try a combination of the visor and the helmet?

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i too prefered the origional, luckily i kept a back-up, it try it with the visor, thanks for the suggestion

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The one that has a big orange helmet, the gray side part seems to have a stretched American flag XD

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that's because it IS an American flag

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Please remove the headband !
Try using a helmet similar to this. Halo's designs never fails :


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master13@

thanks for the suggestion, will probably do if i get back to it, started a new character, wanted to do a full body character, haven't yet thought of how the head should look, but let me know what you think so far
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Holy awesomeness! Great work! I love the different proportions.

You should give it a cute, Big, Toy like alien head. Something like the alien's head from toy story


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woah looks like one on my concept sketches. Looks great ^_^.

Ohh and out of curiosity what do you plan on doing after you've completed this guy?

I was wondering if i could borrow it and create a lowpoly bake for him. I dont know why but you hit all my motivation areas, reverse kneecaps, over sized balanced arms, low standing posture so many more areas. Its like eye candy lol.

That an i could probably rig + unwrap if you wanted to import to fpsc. Great way to get more intrest.

Sooo pretty please ^__^"

Really looking forward to the end product anyway

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lazerus@

fantastic idea, always wanted one of my model in FPSC, when he's finished i'll drop you an email

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I found the sketch of mine it looked so much like ^_^

An thanks i didnt want to try my guy out till i had my new pc, i could give him alot of definition with all that power.

Ive rolled the keecaps more forward than yours, and created larger elbows, i had a more puffy, material like rounded three finger hand in mind. Ive attached mine anyway lol

Cant wait to see your design, an a chance to play with it


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i'll send you the model in its lowest subdiv, in an .obj formatt, for you to tinker about with ti'll your hearts content

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yaaayy play time ^___________^


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well heres an update, finally finished my exams and i had some time to do as i wished so i haven't done anything for the last 2 days but decided to do some work today and i think its coming along, need to correct a few thing, the thumb for instance and the back of the legs have a ligament that is proving difficult to shape correctly, anyway, tell me what you think C&C welcome
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well heres an update, got the head right i think, took a while
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i feel like i have seen this model somewhere(the style at least)

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Azunaki@

it'll just be the style as it's my model, i know a lot of people have been stealing models recently in case that was your suspicion

anyway heres another update, took a long time to post this, tell me what you think
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This guy is so awesome!


Will you be entering the compo?

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have a few ideas floating around, think i will

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What changed comparing the older screenshot to the new one? But it looks great!

Mazz426, I would be cheating if you enter the compo because you would always win.

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master13@

i've used the dam_standard brush to emphasise the features, and i've eneter 3 compo's and haven't come in the top 3 yet, so i'll work hard for this one

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The wrists throw me off a little bit, but the rest is superb. I especially love the proportions of the arms and legs. The grin also makes him look very cunning. I'm not sure if he is good or evil, but if you lowered the middle of the brow, or raised the outside edges of his eyes, he would look very devious!

Do you plan on keeping him symmetrical? I really enjoyed the models you crafted with little differences on each side. It really adds character.


Good job, Mazz426! Keep it up!

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