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Lucas Tiridath
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Posted: 1st Oct 2011 01:06
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Quote: "Cañon Pirata 3D app is finally approved"

Congratulations! Your rolling out the apps! What's next in the pipeline? Keep up the good work!

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Congrats Jordi! You're a machine

I'll add your new games to the list later (decorating in a minute), well done!

On the music front I have confirmation that we can use music by "Desert Planet" for this project (the tune in oblitinator is one of theirs)!

I will email the full set of tracks available to anyone on request. Email me.

It would be great if we all used their stuff or something 8bit style for continuity. There are some free 8bit tracks available from incomtech by Kevin McLeod too that would be apt.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2011 11:49
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I'm currently working on a game show. I don't think that 8 bit music would suit it. But my next project after this one could have 8 bit style music.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2011 12:01
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Oops, thought I was posting on the other thread! The music is available for the ADG Arcade project!

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Jordi
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Posted: 1st Oct 2011 12:53
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Quote: "Congratulations! Your rolling out the apps! What's next in the pipeline? Keep up the good work!"


Thanks
I'm very happy and very soon I show you some screenshots of my next game.

Quote: "Congrats Jordi! You're a machine

I'll add your new games to the list later (decorating in a minute), well done!"


Thanks !!
But I don't have the links
I don't know how to get the web links of the games

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Posted: 1st Oct 2011 13:49 Edited at: 1st Oct 2011 13:49
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Well I get the link of Cañon Pirata 3D

http://www.appup.com/applications/applications-Ca%C3%B1on+Pirata+3D+App

Incredible , I think that my other game "Learn to Multiply with Dr. Fiu" have some error because not appear on Intel Appup :-s.

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 03:47
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Sorry for my late congratz Jordi but Congratz! You'll have to tell us your secret as to how you can make apps so quickly.

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 11:03 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2011 16:07
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Jordi, I've been messing around for a while and can't get the link to "Caňon Pirata 3D" to work on the first post. I think it's the special character. Does anyone know how to make the link work on the forums:


Here's how it works (or doesn't):
[href=http://www.appup.com/applications/applications-Cañon+Pirata+3D+App]Caňon Pirata 3D[/href]
[url]http://www.appup.com/applications/applications-Cañon+Pirata+3D+App[/url]

I've temporarily used your website as a link...

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 11:36
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I can't find the game on AppUp to verify the link, here you go...

http://tinyurl.com/6bu9gzd

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 11:43
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I didn't think of tinyurl thanks Batvink. The strange thing is that the link no longer works and the App no longer shows up on the AppUp client!!

What's going on Jordi? It was there an hour ago

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 12:09
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I've decided to continue the anniversary conversation here as it's more appropriate. I think, if it's allowed, we should make a "Party" thread in Geek Culture where we link back to hilarious conversations, share download stats and overall development progress (if you like), and possibly give out a few awards (e.g baxslash wins the ninja award) just for laughs.

Ooops, I've been thinking aloud again. Maybe we can just stick with the newsletter article.

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 12:16
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Anyone wondering what Hodgey is talking about, it turns out it's nearly a year since I started this group. Anyone with any further ideas for an apt way to celebrate just post your ideas here!

I have suggested next month's newsletter article would be a good place to sum up our first year.

I like the idea of a party thread... care to do the honours Adam? I'll try to come up with some fun things to do. Maybe a 'mini' coding challenge?

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Quote: "I like the idea of a party thread... care to do the honours Adam?"

I would be honoured.

Maybe we can ask The Slayer to make an anniversary banner?...and bring the beer and fries.

Quote: "Maybe a 'mini' coding challenge?"

There's no better way to for a group of programmers to celebrate!

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:28
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Hello guys,

Sorry for my delay.

The link of the game Cañon Pirata 3D is

http://www.appup.com/applications/applications-Ca%C3%B1on+Pirata+3D+App

Cañon Pirata 3D

This is the link I have on my website and it works well.


Quote: "Sorry for my late congratz Jordi but Congratz! You'll have to tell us your secret as to how you can make apps so quickly. "


Thanks and don't worry , jejeje The only secret is "work extra extra hard"

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:34
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As you can see Jordi, TGC website doesn't like your link.

I'll try a few more things...

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:41 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2011 15:45
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Quote: "The only secret is "work extra extra hard""

But I don't like working extra extra hard, it's hard! I'll just keep it as extra hard.

Does this work?
[href]http://www.appup.com/applications/applications-Cañon+Pirata+3D+App[/href]

Edit: There could be a problem with appup itself, also it doesn't seem to like the ñ character.

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:44 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2011 15:58
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Got it, you have to use HTML code like this:
Quote: "http://www.appup.com/applications/applications-CaÑon+Pirata+3D+App"


Caňon Pirata 3D

Crap, won't let me write it you do it like this without the spaces "& Ntilde;"

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:45
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Good work baxslash!

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:54
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Congratz Jordi!

Quote: "The only secret is "work extra extra hard""

Or have lots of free time.

Quote: "beer and fries"

Where? When? How much?

Quote: "Maybe we can ask The Slayer to make an anniversary banner?"

Make a banner for my anniversary?

Quote: "and bring the beer and fries."

Well, I'll take care of the banner, if someone else brings the beer and fries.

Cheers

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 15:57
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The downpoint is if I edit the post I loose the link...

I can't use this method in the first post as I edit it ALL the time

tinyurl fails every time too...

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 16:01
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Quote: "Well, I'll take care of the banner, if someone else brings the beer and fries. "

But who else lives in Belgium, land of best beer and fries? Not to worry, I have a plan. I'll make an app which will rise to no.1 on the app stores. From the profits I'll buy a jet that travels at supersonic speed. I'll fly over to Belgium, buy the fries and beer and give you a lift to ADG HQ. Sound like a plan?

With the banner, what if each person donates a small picture to go on the banner so it becomes a collage, a bit like the 100th newsletter image?

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 17:06 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2011 17:07
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Quote: " Not to worry, I have a plan."



Quote: "With the banner, what if each person donates a small picture to go on the banner so it becomes a collage, a bit like the 100th newsletter image?"

That's not a bad idea. Just wondering where to upload all those images? Make a seperate thread in Geek Culture perhaps?

To all App Developers: don't forget that there's a new sig/banner available that represents our group. The previous one was the one that says 'AppUp Developers Group'.
The new one is the one with 'App Developers Group', which can be found on the first page of this thread and/or on the first thread on the AppGameKit App Developers Group thread.

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Quote: "To all App Developers: don't forget that there's a new banner available that represents our group. The previous one was the one that says 'AppUp Developers Group'.
The new one is the one with 'App Developers Group', which can be found on the first page of this thread and/or on the first thread on the AppGameKit App Developers Group thread."

Good point, Batvink can we change the banner in the next newsletter too? Thanks!

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 18:32
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Quote: "As you can see Jordi, TGC website doesn't like your link."


Ops! yes ... sorry baxslash and good work on solving the problem

For my next games, I doesn't use a rare characters, I promise.

Quote: "Congratz Jordi! "


Thanks The Slayer.

Quote: "Or have lots of free time."


It's my dream, have free time

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Quote: "I can't use this method in the first post as I edit it ALL the time "

Unless anyone has a solution I can't find a method that works all the time...

I don't really relish the idea of changing the link every time I make an edit!

Quote: "For my next games, I doesn't use a rare characters, I promise."

Thanks!

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 18:41 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2011 18:42
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I don't know much about html, is it possible to make a mirrored link? Link the first post to another working post?

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Maybe, but I wouldn't know how to do that...

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Fixed it!

I used something similar to tinyURL here: https://bitly.com/

Here's the working link that doesn't get screwed up when I edit the post!
-Caňon Pirata 3D

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OOOOOh!! Excellent work baxslash!

It's the first time I read about this website ( tinyURL or bitly )
How do they work?

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2011 19:19 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2011 19:22
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Does this work?

Nevermind. I see you've got it fixed.

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Do you have to install the Appup SDK when you use AppGameKit? And what is this certificate? Do I apply for the certificate now, or when I finish my project?

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Quote: "Do you have to install the Appup SDK when you use AppGameKit?"

At the moment I think the only way to develop for AppUp using AppGameKit is in Tier 2 and I believe you would need to have the SDK installed for this. I haven't written any games C++ yet but there is plenty of info on how to use the AppUp SDK available from the AppUp Developer Program website.

Step 1 would be to join the Developer Program and get the SDK
Step 2 is to finish your game
Step 3 would be to get a code signing certificate although I'm not sure if the free one is available to new members. It would be good to know this before you get too far along actually so I would try for this as step 2!

Remember that if you are having trouble getting published TGC have offered to publish games for people on AppUp for a fee. It might be worth considering.

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I'm writing my game in basics, so do I still need the SDK? Certificate worked, I joined quite a long time ago.

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Quote: "I'm writing my game in basics, so do I still need the SDK?"

There aren't currently any commands in AppGameKit Basic for AppUp. I'm not sure if they plan on making it possible to create for AppUp in Basic.

Quote: "Certificate worked, I joined quite a long time ago."

That was quick mine took weeks to sort out!

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I'm confused.. so why are there DBPro commands at the beginning of this thread? You can use DBPro but not AppGameKit?

And this...
Quote: "I haven't written any games C++ yet"


Makes it sound like you used Basic. So you used DBPro?

So why is the program made for Apps not working as well as DBPro?

I don't understand?

If I can write it in DBPro that would be even better.

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Quote: "At the moment I think the only way to develop for AppUp using AppGameKit is in Tier 2 and I believe you would need to have the SDK installed for this. I haven't written any games C++ yet but there is plenty of info on how to use the AppUp SDK available from the AppUp Developer Program website.
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You can do it with Tier 1 (I think, I haven't personally tried the method myself) using VS and AppUp SDK. Here's the guide

@The Slayer: Haha, I love the A-Team although I do prefer the old 1970s/80s ones.

Quote: "That's not a bad idea. Just wondering where to upload all those images? Make a seperate thread in Geek Culture perhaps?"

Good point. What if we completely copy the 100th TGC newsletter and use everyone's avatars?

Pincho Ninja'd me, oh will it ever end?
Quote: "I'm confused.. so why are there DBPro commands at the beginning of this thread?"

Well, we are on the DBPro board

Quote: "So why is the program made for Apps not working as well as DBPro?"

I think DBPro got a few modifications in order to make AppUp validation easier (and I use "easier" very loosely).

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So I can write my Game in DBPro, that's great! Saved myself £70 as well. I was afraid to use the unprotected site to buy AppGameKit anyway, that's why I put it off.

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Yes, all of my games on AppUp are written in DBPro.

If you find it easier and want to save the £70 then that's the way to go for sure!

As Hodgey said there's a full guide for developing AppUp games in DBPro in the first post

AGK will make it easier to write games for AppUp and multiple other platforms as time goes on but yeah, start with DBPro it's been tried and tested!

This thread is the original ADG thread started for DBPro users writing games for AppUp but we have a 'mirror' group in the AppGameKit forum mainly because we want to help people publish in AppGameKit too...

Shout if you need any further help!

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Hi guys,

Nice job Jordi getting your game published! Well guys my trial has 2 more days until it's over. I'm trying to get the money so I can buy AGK. I'm thinking of making a old 2D Atlantis game but with updated graphics. It should look pretty cool.

I like the site you guys have been putting a effort in. Also very big thanks for putting my game up there on the website. I might need you to change the price though. I'm changing it on the intel appup store from $4.99 to $1.99. My updated full game, and demo should be comming out soon I just submitted it. Well keep up the good job guys!

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Sounds cool!

I'll change the price, let me know when you have the updates online

Cheers darkvee!

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Quote: "Nice job Jordi getting your game published!"


Thanks darkvee

Quote: "I'm thinking of making a old 2D Atlantis game but with updated graphics"


Good idea!

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Hi guys,

I promised to show some images of my next APP. Well, I've had a busy week but I made some screenshots of my new game.

F.A.R ( Future Aero Racing )



http://www.nurendsoft.com/datos/2011_img/forums/far_sc01.jpg

http://www.nurendsoft.com/datos/2011_img/forums/far_sc02.jpg

Inspired in F1 racing games and F-ZERO ( without looping XD )

- 9 cars
- 6 circuits, you can select weather and the hour of the race ( midday, afternoon or night )
- Ranking online of best times for each circuit.
and this game use 3-D ( like Cañon Pirata 3D App )

I'm trying to publish a free demo as soon as posible.

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Wow! Looks fantastic Jordi, I literally can't wait

I love the style and is that motion blur? I'm on my iPod...

Excellent looking App! Have you tried it on a netbook yet? I might be able to squeeze a quick benchmark test in

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Thanks baxslash

Quote: "Have you tried it on a netbook yet?"


Yes, I tested it in a neetbook and the game run at 50 Fps and with 3-D actived runs at 40 Fps.

I need to optimize AI of the rival cars and add some particles ( sparks, smoke, rain, etc ..) but I think the game can run at 30.0 fps without problems.

Quote: " is that motion blur?"


No, I don't use shaders because I would like that the game see and specialy run, the best as possible on all of the computers. Is a texture effect but looks really good XD

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That looks awesome Jordi! How did you do the glow on the engines on the vehicle, I must know! It's probably a simple trick but I haven't learnt it yet.

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F.A.R looks good. The vehicle has a nice style.

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Quote: "That looks awesome Jordi!"


Thanks Hodgey

Quote: "How did you do the glow on the engines on the vehicle"


It's a simple quad pointing always to the main camera with a texture. The important when you make a glow or shiny objects, is that the light, ambient light, fog and lightmap doesn't affect the object.

Simple trick but very useful because no need use shaders or special processing.

Quote: "F.A.R looks good. The vehicle has a nice style."


Thanks Pincho Paxton

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Quote: "It's a simple quad pointing always to the main camera with a texture."

I see, you can probably tell I don't do a lot of 3D programming. When I heard about AppGameKit it became a low priority.

Quote: "The important when you make a glow or shiny objects, is that the light, ambient light, fog and lightmap doesn't affect the object."

I'll remember that one, thanks Jordi!

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Quote: "I see, you can probably tell I don't do a lot of 3D programming"


No, no. I don't know what is your programming level.
I write using simple words because I don't write too well in English and I think that the important is all of us can understand as best as possible

Quote: "I'll remember that one, thanks Jordi!"


I am happy if I can help in any way

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Jordi, did you get a link for your maths game?

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